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Are you tracking your macronutrients? If you're low on fat for the day, then go ahead and have some avocado, like cut up in a salad or something. But if you've already had enough (healthy!) fats, then skip it. I don't think it's forbidden (I know I ate it pre-op), but it should fit into your overall meal plan for the day. Also, if you're making some kind of lettuce wrap, I think a bit of homemade guacamole smeared in there is a wonderful substitute for mayo. It's just about the amount and the overall nutritional picture for the day.
Regarding tracing, I really like cron-o-meter because it gives you a very detailed nutritional report (macro and micro) all on one page, so you can look at your nutrition for the day or week and see what you still need more of.

I don't think the rational behind the MDR for Water is weight loss necessarily. I think it's that you're body simply functions better when you're hydrated, and the MDR helps everyone keep in mind what it takes to stay that way, especially since getting fluids in becomes more difficult after surgery.

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

Very well said and very inspirational! I don't think I've ever been in denial about the ways being fat holds me back or about how I have to plan things out around my weight, but these are things I do that second nature to me, and have been since I was a child. It's so difficult to articulate to people things like why flying may be worse for me, why I want to sit in the booth, why I don't want to walk far on a humid day, or why even on a hot day I need to wear at least three layers to "hold things in." When I try to articulate these things even to good friends, friends I feel comfortable with confiding my struggles with obesity to, even they look at me like I waaay over think things. But I know the world I live in. I know how society feels about fat people. I know the steps I need to take to make my life less, well, embarrassing for myself.
I'm getting sleeved on Wednesday. If in a year I'm anywhere close to where you are now, @@LipstickLady, I'll consider it the best thing I've ever done. Congratulations on your tremendous success!

We need to stop thinking of obesity as a moral failing. Yes, this surgery is expensive, but medical science's best bet is that you won't lose weight without it. You wanna gamble on being a statistical outlier? Be my guest, but meanwhile the rest of us are gonna do the best we can to fight this thing, and right now, 'the best' is surgery.
For more information on how we become obese, check out this very informative article:
http://aeon.co/magazine/being-human/david-berreby-obesity-era/

@@BitterSweet* that's all excellent to know! I definitely can point to the paint with one finger (and on a scale of 1-10, the pain is only like a 1, it's just that when we think of our chests, it's easy to freak out!). Anyway, I've been fine the past few days, and I see my surgeon on Friday. I will indeed bring it up, but I don't think I need to see anyone asap.

I have to say, I've actually been feeling a lot better since I've been working out this week. I'm still having weird fleeting pains in odd places, but since I can survive a workout, I'm not so worried about dropping dead all of a sudden. I'll mention it to my surgeon when I see him next week though, along with the weird headaches I've been having.

He's gonna do what he's gonna do, but you need to look out for number one, and if he's standing in your way and won't even talk about it, then that's a problem and you have to find a way of dealing with it. Also, why on earth does he expect you to cook? It's not 1954; he should be capable of scrambling an egg.

I agree. There are medical/biological reasons beyond our control regarding why most people are unable to lose weight without the medical intervention of WLS, but it's all our own willpower and drive that allows us to make the decision to finally have it done, and it's thanks to our surgeons and ourselves that we're successful. Thanking God absolves you of any stake in your own wellbeing and doesn't give credit where credit is do. (Of course some people say "Thanks God!" rhetorically, but that's clearly different.)

Hi @@MzGee thanks such for your reply.
Everywhere I go for PCOS info the focus is on fertility and pregnancy, and I feel mean but I feel like saying "enough! There are other forums out there for this!".
PCOS is such a complicated health issues (Dr's don't even fully understand yet) and each individual has a variety of different symptoms present in varied degrees.
I'm so glad to hear your hair is growing back in. Was your bald spot from losing hair before or after surgery?
At the moment I take Biotin daily and use a biotin special Shampoo and conditioner.
I also take a whole host of other pills and supplements but it doesn't seem to help me much.
I just do want to be bald AND have facial stubble .... Is that too much for a young woman to ask? Haha
At least I could probably join the circus xx

I agree about all of this, but especially the prayer stuff! It's not that people don't have a right to their beliefs or to pray for whomever or whatever they wish, but there's an insinuation in the language that many people use ("We're all praying for you!") that this is the status quo, when it obviously is not.

Well said! Eating enough Protein isn't the only ingredient when it comes to not losing muscle. With such drastic weight loss, you will lose muscle if you do not work to build it! We don't want to end up "skinny fat," do we?

At this point, I sort of think macro nutrient ratios and exercise have more to do with it than calorie intake (up to a certain extent anyway). I mean, it's different for everyone of course, but I think what people say about about Protein, Water, watching carbs, and exercising (especially weight training) is really all golden advice.

Statistically speaking, I think only around 1% of people who lose significant amounts of weight keep it off long term. If you want to find out whether or not you can be a statistical outlier, then put off the surgery. But just remember, there's a reason people who lose over 100lb (without surgery) often make the news: it doesn't happen that often.
Are you sure you only qualify for the bypass? My acid reflux was entirely due to my food choices, and during the pre-op diet when I was eating totally clean, it completely went away. Every once and while I get that acidic hungry feeling, but at over 3 months post-op, that only happens one or two times a month and then I just take pill for it. I know I would have been a lot more hesitant about surgery if the bypass were the only thing I qualified for. I know lots of people are happy with it and it's a tried and true tool for weight loss, but personally, I didn't feel ready it. My sleeve, on the other hand, I'm very happy with.

I don't have any pictures, but I'm 5'7". I started at 265lb and I've lost 66lb since the middle of May. People tell me I look good, and I have to agree. My upper arms are flabby, as are my inner thighs, but my stomach and butt seem to be holding up ok, and in clothes, I feel like a totally new person. My face looks a lot better too. Also, I'm 27. Age can definitely be a factor.

I don't have any pictures, but I'm 5'7". I started at 265lb and I've lost 66lb since the middle of May. People tell me I look good, and I have to agree. My upper arms are flabby, as are my inner thighs, but my stomach and butt seem to be holding up ok, and in clothes, I feel like a totally new person. My face looks a lot better too. Also, I'm 27. Age can definitely be a factor.

At this point, I sort of think macro nutrient ratios and exercise have more to do with it than calorie intake (up to a certain extent anyway). I mean, it's different for everyone of course, but I think what people say about about Protein, Water, watching carbs, and exercising (especially weight training) is really all golden advice.

I dunno, I'm down to 199 from 265, and I've always had thick calves, now just as much as before. Don't get me wrong, I've lost a couple centimeters off my calves, but proportionally, I'm highly skeptical that it will improve much. The tissue just doesn't feel soft like fat. It feels like bone and muscle, always has. I think I just have huge calves. And all I want is to wear skinny jeans