mrs.petethecat

Cidmore- after hearing, watching and reading about what fast food restaurants put into their chicken and beef products, one would be smart not to touch those with a 10 foot pole. Eg. McD and their "pink slime" to make the chicken and beef safe enough for human consumption. Not to mention all the injection of GMO into the animals to make them grow bigger and faster. No thanks!

k8ee sorry you've been in a 6 week stall
venting is good - gets it out of your system for the minute
I agree with Sydney Susan that getting more sleep sure couldn't hurt!!!
you'll probably feel better in the morninh
it must be hard when you don't have anyone "in person" you can talk/vent to about your situation
but..........."we're" here
looks like you are following all the rules, waiting up to an hour after you eat before you drink again -
drinking plenty of Water, getting in proper calories and exercise too!!!!
you are doing great!!!!
this stall will break!!!! it has too
telling you to "just hang in there", well its true - but........easier said than done!!
People have said something like shake up things a bit
"maybe" increase your calories
IMO by the time you do that - and maybe it will be successful - the stall might have run its course anyways
wish i knew how far out you are, how much weight you've lost from a profile, ticker hint, hint
this info helps OP give suggestion/help
besides "we're nosey"
I know things will work out!!!!
I feel it in my bones!!!!
good luck
kathy

God Grant Me Patience Just Hurry Up about It

My doc's nurse told me to wait for 6 weeks...but she told me that at my 2 week postop appt. I said, Ummmm...y'all might really want to tell folks that BEFORE they leave the hospital & not after they've been home for 2 weeks already. Just sayin'!

I work with several people that have had it -- and I have stuck to keeping my business private. I tell everybody that I cut out fast food and junk food, cut out carbs, drink lots of Water, and exercise my ass off. All of this is true. I love that I kept it to myself. Because I don't want my food to be inspected every day at lunch and I don't need everybody discussing my decision- as I have heard so many judge the folks I work with that are open about their business.
I love that it is my secret. I still have done all the hard work.

Its still your business and if you dont want to tell people, dont, I have no intention to. Although I have no problem telling people its not something I want to discuss, its not even a discussion I want to begin and I dont want to hear their thoughts or opinions. While I was going through the process I did medifast, and I realized that the results are not very different. The mf diet is about 1000 calories a day and again is very similar to the sleeve. If you are looking for something to tell people you can tell them that you significantly modified your diet and tell them about the medifast program. There is a lot of information about it, and it definitely does work if you stick with it. I dont think you should tell people unless you want to because once you do it is information you cant get back and you have no control over who else it told about it.

I also appreciate getting this sub-forum dusted off. Although I was raised in the Christian faith, as an adult I don't connect with any organized religion. I wish more of today's politicians believed as passionately in the separation of church and state as our founding fathers did. As stacechase said above, live & let live, just don't push your beliefs on others. For me, success in this journey is more about having faith in myself and my own ability to make the necessary changes than faith in some god or outside being.

Butter, I appreciate your post. I am almost as liberal as they come but also a believer though in no way shape or form fundamentalist. I think religion is one of those things that people on both sides (believers and non) get very wrong at times. Both sides in many instances feel the other is trying to convert/convince them one way or another. Let's all agree to stop that!
My goal is to NOT walk around trying to convert people. Faith is a (in my view) very serious matter and I don't believe God wants me to try and "bring everyone to the light". In fact, through reading the Bible I think most people who take this approach are not only WRONG but doing the exact opposite of what God would want.
Not every person that is a believer is going to beat you over the head, try to convert you, or believes that acceptance of science means your going to hell. I'm one of those that absolutely has read the Bible cover to cover and I read it because of my doubts - so very skeptical. By reading it, it brought me to what I feel is a closer relationship with God. That is, my OWN personal relationship with God.
No one walking this earth can save another, so again...let's try and stop that! Just as no nonbeliever can convince someone not willing to stop believing. It's just not going to happen.
It is a very sad state of affairs when people of all faiths (or no faith) cannot sign onto a support forum and just Celebrate with one another. I've been really saddened by the tone lately in some of the forums and also the intolerance on both sides.
Sure, I attribute much of my success and overall peace to God, but again, that's about me and has nothing to do with anyone else. And BTW, I've also read the Torrah and Koran. I'm an avid studier of world cultures, religion, etc. I've met some great friends of all walks of life this way and wouldn't trade those friendships for the world. We respect and value each other and that's what counts.

Thanks for the thread, Butter, and very well-said, Gamergirl.
I consider myself an atheist. When I was younger, I was much more anti-organized religion, and as I've aged, I've become much more tolerant. Live and let live, just don't try to push your beliefs on me, and I won't do it to you.
My choice has not played any part in my lifelong struggle with weight nor does it play a choice in my current dedication to a healthier lifestyle. I have made the decision because it's the smart one to make, it's for my health, and I attribute my strength in staying the course to no one other than myself and my own hard work and perseverance.
Butter, like you, I also tend to have adverse reactions to authority. I prefer to live by rules that make the most sense for me, and don't react well to having to operate under the rule system of others. It has made me stubborn, but strong. The hardest thing for me is battling with my own brain—the large part of me that knows I need to become healthy, wants to make major changes, is often silenced by the bossy, stubborn part of my brain that tells me to "eat whatever you want and feel happy." I'm just now realizing that food does not equal happiness...and that's a conclusion that I am proud to say came from my own noggin...no credit to a "higher power" needed.

I am a believer in something else apart from organized religion. I have a hard time verbalizing what it is other than the golden rule,and potentially a larger plan and that the Universe unfolds the way it should, but that's good enough to start with.
At the risk of angering some fundamentalists, I have to say in my case, lack of faith in a conventional God is not a choice. I kinda see it like being gay. Either you are, or you aren't. Either you are able to believe in God in the conventional way, or you can't. I've never succeeded in forcing it.

That's pretty much how I identify myself....a non believer. Not an atheist, not an agnostic.....those terms seem like "labels."
I've been meaning to post in this sub forum for a long time, but never got around to it. It needs the dust knocked off of it. I can see why it doesn't get used much. For me, my non belief has absolutely nothing to do with my WLS or my weight loss. It hasn't contributed....it didn't play a role....it damn sure didn't help. It didn't stop me either, any more than my non belief in the tooth fairy. It's just a lack of belief, not a lack of faith BTW. I have faith...just not in religion.
I read an article recently about a group of atheists down in Florida who erected a statue to atheism on public property as a sign of their right to freedom of expression. It was a park bench BTW....which I think shows at least they are practical. But I can't quite get behind the whole act of it. After all, from the outside looking in, erecting the bench is kinda like celebrating their non belief. Making a statement about it. A demonstration if you will. Personally, I don't make statements about my non belief of religion anymore than I make statements about my non belief in Santa Claus....which I put both on the same level. They are the same thing, are they not? Isn't Santa keeping a list of who's naughty and who's nice.....yeah....same thing.
My non belief is just not a factor. Plus...there is no doubt I have a king size problem with authority. I find it hard to accept the rules of it all. The threats and the guilt. The manipulation. The "live this way or else" sense of it all. I don't need it. I can be a moral man and live by my principles without the threat of eternal damnation hanging over my head. Or the promise of the pearly gates...... I don't need to be bribed to do the right thing.
So yeah, I don't have a very high opinion of religion, but I did not start this thread to criticize people who do or debate the merits of atheism. But rather just to dust off the cobwebs of this sub forum and say hey....it's possible to lose weight, get healthy and lead a decent life without the "assistance" of a higher power.
Out of respect for the many believers out there, I posted this in the "atheist" sub forum so you would not have to read it. I'm happy for your response though. However, like I said, to me it's not a debate.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings.

Congrats on your sleeve and welcome. Everyday will be better!

First dress in five years... Haven't seen the people since 2008. Let me just say, I was definitely feeling good.

If you feel like this message is for you.... Then you're exactly right.

Rice ain't nice, to wife and I anyway.
Steak and white turkey meat can get us if we don't eat slowly and chew like contented bovines.

Anyone feel that the days following surgery seam just to easy? I had surgery on the 5 th and I'm still waiting for the hammer to drop.. No nausea, no problem drinking . Walking well. I have a very minor feeling of acid in my stomach but that it. Just waiting for the bad days.

I did not need to know that. Lol

sugar free twix would be awesome!

That's the thing! This stuff is crazy overpriced. That box of Cookies cost a mint?? You don't even want to know how many packages of Oreos I could of bought with that money..

When I was on vaca last week I bought two boxes of Atkins bars, not cheap, so that I'd have Protein handy. I went to grab a meal bar and my box of five was reduced to a single bar.
My sister, her bf, and my daughter decided to feast on them.
I was po'd! :-(

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Haha! You know what she said!??
"Ok, whatever, they aren't even that good"
0_o
Now she's dissing my only joy? I have successfully convinced myself these things are better than Nestle toll house chocolate chip cookies!!!
She comes down in the middle of the night FINDS (because they were in my secret cupboard) my Cookies. Eats them LEAVES A MESS. Then has the nerve to talk crap about them!
Oh, but then she tells me that my dill pickle Protein Krinkles where good though??
what the????

My daughter and I go through this all the time.
Its not like I dont buy her her taquitos or spicy noodles, etc... No I come home to find my cheese, ham, pudding and fudge bars all gone! Its so frustrating.
We finally had a talk and I explained it was possible to starve me that way (she is 15).
I wasnt going to eat her Snacks and goodies so she needed to be more mindful....
Now if only it worked :-)

Girl, I'm ready to take down my hubs & 5yr old.....they won't stop!

I cannot eat much. My stomach is the size of a Sharpie. I have to prioritize my intake. So, dammit, when I find a yummy AND nutritionally balanced AND sleeve friendly meal.... Leave my food ALONE!!!! Don't eat my leftovers. Let me enjoy it.
Why is it what I'm eating and/or rationing out is the most appetizing thing in a 50 mile radius to my family?!?!
And then I feel selfish and guilty for getting so annoyed. Like I'm being the greedy food ogre who never wanted to share?