leeann71

Babygirl 1987, since you are so obsessed withe her marriage vows and Christ why are you judging her? You who are without sin shall cast the first stone!

It doesn't matter who is an adult and who is not. There is an ethical issue here. I don't know anyone involved so I am not writing specifically about Omar but anyone in medicine. If this happened, and I have no reason to assume it did not considering the sensitive nature of the complaints and the number of complaints, Omar had no business allowing anything to happen even if the women made advances. It's basic ethics 101. Patients are vulnerable and it is NEVER okay to have a relationship with a patient as long as that patient is a patient. In the US a surgeon would be reprimanded by the Board of Medicine in their state if complaints were made.
And just because it is Mexico does not mean complaints cannot be made to the proper authorities (in medicine).

It does not matter if the doctor knows or not. The bottom line is that any doctor is responsible for all his staff and their behaviors. It is up to any doctor to make sure emails cannot be blocked from their view. They should be checking up on their staff, their reps depend on it.

Well, I don't appreciate the digs at myself and the victims in this thread either. 
 
Now, lets talk about my credibility.  I have been a member of this forum almost since its beginning.  I know a lot of people as a result, have made a lot of friends here, and as I was administrator for years, people felt comfortable confiding in me.  I don't hide behind a screen name or a fake picture.  My screen name is my real name and the picture is me.  My Facebook information is in my signature.  I worked for Alex directly for over a year as a coordinator.  In doing so, I gained even more contacts in Mexico and the US.  I resigned in January after getting a major promotion at my "day" job, but continued to maintain those contacts.  Nothing made up there.  Fact.
 
I had surgery in Mexico.  I had many issues for several years following that I did not attribute to having anything to do with my sleeve.  When I went to a doctor about my issues, after a multitude of tests, yes, it was determined my problems were a result of my sleeve not being perfomed properly.  Then, after posting about it on facebook, another of my friends who went to the same surgeon advised me she had recently gone to her doctor for the exact same thing, and was told the same thing I was.  Nothing made up there, Fact.
 
In my process of being a coordinator, I referred a patient to a surgeon in Mexico.  While there she died.  I'm not going to go into great details, but the surgeon said it was due to undisclosed medical issues.  Again, after remaining in close contact with this person's husband and others, it was determined she had no undisclosed medical conditions.  There was a lawsuit in process, I had been contacted regarding it, I had seen medical records.  Nothing made up there.  Fact.
 
I became close friends with another coordinator for a different surgeon in Mexico.  When she quit working for him and I inquired as to why, she shared with me that he had told her he sleeved her, but in truth did not, his own coordinator.  She also had the medical records to show it.  When she confronted him, he admitted it.  She shared part of that information of the confrontation with me.  Nothing made up there.  Fact.
 
And then, there is this issue with Omar.  I have stated from the start, Dr. Illan is a good surgeon.  Omar is the problem.  When one person came to me, I questioned the validity.  However, after seven have come forward, I can no longer question it.  There is inappopriate and unethical behavior going on on Omar's part.  Nothing made up there.  Fact.
 
Now, who are you that you are able to discredit me?  What is your real name?  Where is your picture?  What is your background? 

No I would rather not elaborate on mine or anyone else's religious beliefs. I just hope and pray that this post has given enough warning out there to the future patients of this doctor. Even though the doctor is great, you need to be warned about his seducing coordinator and all the other hoopla that will happen if you fall for his tactics.

Thank you!!

DO NOT turn this thread into a religious debate, please. If you wish to discuss religion, please start your own topic so as not to detract from this one.
Thank you.

You need to follow our posted forum rules or you'll give us no option but to suspend your account. Please stop the name calling and cussing.

Excuse me! Seriously who are you that you know anything about me? I am the only person on here so far that has used that scripture. I know exactly what it means do you? Probably not since you are here judging people. If you are a God fearing person you should know it's not your or anyone else's place to judge people. He will judge when its time.

Babygirl 1987, since you are so obsessed withe her marriage vows and Christ why are you judging her? You who are without sin shall cast the first stone!

Babygirl 1987, since you are so obsessed withe her marriage vows and Christ why are you judging her? You who are without sin shall cast the first stone!

All I can say after reading this thread is
1) I'm sorry to the women who were personally affected by the unprofessional behavior of this coordinator.
2) Slut-shaming and victim blaming is NOT okay. I don't give two flying f**ks about whether you know or don't know the victims involved, not a single person has the right to blame them. The fact that they were consenting adults really isn't germaine: they were taken advantage of during a vulnerable time in their lives. I can only hope that if any of these bullies, fangirls or others who seem to be victim blaming have something similar happen, that they aren't immediately called out and bashed because they fell for a line during a vulnerable time in their lives.
3) "He's a man" is absolutely no excuse for this behavior.
I don't know Susan. I don't know the victims. I have zero personal stakes in this, other than I have been a victim of this type of abuse and I have been told it was my fault. It took a boatload of counseling to realize that it wasn't my fault. Blaming the victims and trying to bury the issue only insures that there will be more victims.
Just because a lot of people had good experiences with this coordinator/this clinic doesn't invalidate the few people who had not-good experiences. It means that more people don't fit his victim profile than do.

All I can say is WOW! All of this is so sad! To be taken advantage of when you are at your lowest point and afraid is so wrong. I am pretty sure almost all of us have been a victim at some time in our lives because of our obesity. Instead of fighting we need to stand together and protect our mothers, sisters , daughter's and so forth from the predators in this world. No matter who is a fault here, emotions were played upon and it needs to end.

All I can say is WOW! All of this is so sad! To be taken advantage of when you are at your lowest point and afraid is so wrong. I am pretty sure almost all of us have been a victim at some time in our lives because of our obesity. Instead of fighting we need to stand together and protect our mothers, sisters , daughter's and so forth from the predators in this world. No matter who is a fault here, emotions were played upon and it needs to end.

Last night I watched the show Extreme Weight Loss, and was happy to see that they again included the removal of excess skin as part of the process of this mans journey to the new him. I mentioned it on a WLS site, which started a vocal dialog of people wanting to complete their journey but feeling they couldn't due to restrictions placed on them because of the government or their insurance company. I was surprised, how many people feel stuck in their old skin due to not having insurance. Maybe I didn't feel stuck due to insurance woes since I haven't had any support from insurance along the way, as I was a self pay for my RNY years ago... This got me thinking how much are we worth? I ask this because it took me several years to feel worth spending the money. If insurance would have covered it, I am sure I would have done it sooner, but since I had to pay (my family) it was a whole different story. We don't have extra cash sitting around the house so this was money that could have gone to fixing up the house or buying a new car...All sorts of important uses, then it hit me, if I were to buy a car, it would most likely last 7 years and then we would be in need of replacing it, well if that money went towards me I am planning on lasting more than 7 years! Do I value a car more than myself? No... There are ways to have the surgery without breaking the bank. I know one lady that had all of her surgeries at a Teaching Hospital in NYC for a fraction of the normal cost. I went to Mexico, just 5 miles south of the border in San Diego, which was so simple, I felt safe and close to home and paid about 1/3 of the costs back home. Also there is a company called Credit Care, which finances plastic surgery.... So I urge you, if you want and need plastic surgery to complete your journey please don't give up but do some investigating I am sure you will find a way...You are worth it, you have come so far.....

To start with I found this site helpful and full of info... Or so I thought I have now learnt that everyone is told a different thing by their surgeons and nurses & that everyone thinks they know best and that everyone feels the need to share that with everyone ... So this is my last post .. I'm not even sure it will be read becUse I am going to delete my account..
It's my fault I hate this site because for some reason I expected people to be different on here.. Turns out this is just like every other site out there ... Shit !!

Wow with friends like her you sure don't need enemies! Real friends would never drag your problem out in to the public eye for starters. A real friend will stick by you thick and thin no matter what any situation is. They are there when you fall and when you are on top of the world. I myself accepted being fat along time ago, but I chose to have surgery a year and half ago because I wNted to live a long life . Most of all of us , if not had surgery or lost weight some how with out regaining would probably die from some obesity realated problem. The thing is we do love ourselves! We love ourselves enough to continue living. Your friend will grow up oneday and realize what you did was the best thing for you and no matter how she feels in say 10 to 20 years from now you are the one who will be healthy and loving life. She will probably still be 300 plus pounds and still vegan and no where near as happy and healthy as you will be. Good luck you made the right choice for you!

Wow with friends like her you sure don't need enemies! Real friends would never drag your problem out in to the public eye for starters. A real friend will stick by you thick and thin no matter what any situation is. They are there when you fall and when you are on top of the world. I myself accepted being fat along time ago, but I chose to have surgery a year and half ago because I wNted to live a long life . Most of all of us , if not had surgery or lost weight some how with out regaining would probably die from some obesity realated problem. The thing is we do love ourselves! We love ourselves enough to continue living. Your friend will grow up oneday and realize what you did was the best thing for you and no matter how she feels in say 10 to 20 years from now you are the one who will be healthy and loving life. She will probably still be 300 plus pounds and still vegan and no where near as happy and healthy as you will be. Good luck you made the right choice for you!

Thank you so much for replying to my post. I have since went with very moist foods and my pureed foods and it's going down easier. I still get the pressure in my abdomen but it's not as bad, time will tell. Again, thank you so much.

My opinion, if you aren't breaking any rules laid out by the creators of this site, ask whatever you like. Some members like to make their own criteria as to what should be asked, how it should be asked, and when. Who are they? If they aren't contributing to your resolution, ignore their remarks. Let them be miserable on their own. Just remember that those with low self-esteem usually try to belittle others to feel superior. It isn't your fault. This is an exciting yet terrifying journey, don't be afraid of the "bullies". There's usually someone willing to give you a compassionate answer or suggestion. Good luck!

I have and am in your shoes. I have learned to either ignore it when it comes from unwanted attention. I have also learned to take a step back and breathe when it comes from family, friends and kind strangers " not the people who are making lewd or sexual comments". Keep your head high and be proud of the accomplishments that you are doing for yourself and family. Don't let unwanted attention bring you down . There will always be a$$ holes out there who get their rocks off by saying $hit to women. When you get enough confidence up maybe you can turn it on them and watch them squirm, give them a dose of their own medicine!

I think, although I havent gone into great therapy to discuss this, I had a host of problems in my childhood that helped contribute to me being obese. I was also like Leann 71 abused as a young child for 4 years, I took courage and told my mom. She has self esteem issues within herself as well and a year after the abuser went to jail and was then released, she let him back in the house with me(unsupervised). I was also bullied as a child in many forms, I was sensitive, quick to cry, and very socially ackward(still am to some degree). I didn't have a father figure in my life and I think all these things combined with hormonal changes with using birth control put my body over the edge. I also internalize a lot of stress, gulit, and other various things until I almost have a panic attack or begin to shut down emotionally. Honestly I am a wreak!

You look great! Congratulations!

Reading all of these stories has got me thinking about how to let go of the past. I see a therapist regularly and we talk about the things that had happened.
But for some strange reason I am cursed with always remembering the bad things that happen. They just dont seem to go away. I catch my self wondering if I will gain the weight back because of this. My childhood and teen years were horrible.
As I grew up there were more people in my life who hurt me the same way. How does anyone get over and through this?
I have forgiven everyone who ever hurt me , I just haven't forgotten.

I don't recall anyone in the thread saying they don't like the OP anywhere and I've read every response. I believe in freedom of speech, but with that freedom comes consequences because everyone else has a right to exercise their freedom and disagree or agree with any statement.
That said, I would like to say that when I see threads like this, here is what I really see: "Hey fatty, why can't you just eat right and exercise?!?" Haven't we all been ridiculed enough in our lives? Why do we need to do it to each other? It's not funny to me at all, and this place is here for support, and these types of posts, this one and the hundreds before it are far from supportive in any nature. Whether some find it funny, refreshing (and if you've been here as long as I have you wouldn't find these refreshing anymore) or any other way it just isn't for the hundreds of others in the line of fire. For anyone who does find this sort of thread funny or otherwise, I invite you to take a look in the mirror and reflect on why you do.
One last thing, these threads are actually not allowed here whether it be in Rants and Raves or anywhere else...