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Oh yeah! You're right, that's a good amount of protein for bread

Way too expensive for me. Some of them now have less cals, so I'm sure they would be ok

If you feel ok doing all of that, I say go for it. I'm at the age where I need 1 or 2 days off to recover. If you get to feeling really weak or no energy and tired, maybe just take a couple of days off and get back to it. But if not, keep going at it!

I think it was 14 grams of protein per serving, which was 2 slices. And maybe 12 grams of carbs,,,

I don't really have any loose skin, but I haven't lost as much weight as most people that have had this surgery. Also, I think resistance training helps some.

Thanks for the feedback! So it's a little rubbery?

"HeyMo" if you do get it, let us know what you think about it.

For most of us, it's all about body composition. Which means it's not so much the scale, but muscle over fat. When I'm hitting the weights hard, I stall like crazy or even put on a couple of pounds. But at the same time, my belt and waist feel looser, so I know that added weight is muscle...and I'm ok with that and I think most (especially men) prefer that as well. Hang in there and keep at it....you'll like the progress in your physique if you stick with it.

Curious.....has anyone tried the P28 high Protein bread/bagels? It has 14 grams of protein per slice, I think 12 carbs and is whole grain. www.highproteinbread.com I was thinking about trying it, but it's not really cheap. Just looking for a little feedback from people who have tried it before I take the plunge. Thanks! Mark

My friend Scott asked me (after not having seen me in 2-3 months).... "Man! You are looking really trim! What have you been doing?" I just came right out and told him that I had surgery and still working my a$$ off in the gym. He seemed genuinely happy for me and actually came back later with questions from his mom who is considering the srugery. Not that it was a test or anything, but I knew he was a longtime friend and I fugured if he was still a friend, he'd be happy for me...which he is. All of my family knows and a co-worker. Other people I know and don't really care about....I really try to just avoid the whole conversation with them. Not that I don't want them to know, it's just a REALLY long story and I don't really like talking to them anyway.

I usually don't have a problem finding the motivation to workout. I know that when I lift weights, it triggers hormones that makes me feel really good even though I'm tired. Other than during & after s*x, there is nothing else that makes me feel "manly" like lifting. : P But with women I'm sure it's a lot different and doesn't involve as much resistance training. You just have to find what your goal is, have a clear one and try to stick with it. If you do for a while, a lot of times seeing results will keep you pushing toward goals. The rare time that I am sleepy or lethargic before I go to the gym, I'm not afraid of a little caffeine to get me going....and it also helps me focus during my workouts. But and don't do that but maybe once every 2-3 weeks though. That's just stuff what works for me, find what works for you and go for it! The music (ipod) idea can be good too! Good luck!!!

I'll low carb it if I don't workout for a few days, but I have found that my muscle and strength respond more favorably to some complex carbs (oats, brown rice, bananas) along with my protein for a few meals after I workout. I think it's key to know that every person has their own sensitivity to carbs and the optimum amount for an individual can vary a lot. We all are so different there's not one single correct amount for us all, so it's probably best to experiment a little and find out works best for each person. And as soon as we find it, stick to it and get in a routine, our bodies will probably change and have different requirements.

I'm close to 11 months out as well and also a good ways from goal. I'm not going to lie, I'd like to make goal, but I also realize it may not happen. I feel like I can eat a lot more than most, but I feel great, have really good strength in the gym and I'm off of my medicines.....so I've accomplished most of what I wanted already. As I've gone on the past few months and feel pretty good about things, even though I've not lost a ton of weight, I'm seeing that goal number as just that.....a number. You've really lost a lot more than I have and more than most. Just decide on how important that goal weight is and if it has to be accomplished, do what you need to do to get there. Wishing you the best!

Hickory, NC here. I am related to some of the Hughes' around the Murphy/Andrews area.

Wish you the best in finding a surgeon there! I really don't know any surgeons in Scotland, but had to comment given my highland games history and experience in wearing kilts. :ph34r:

Got to be careful in Scotland, they'll make you wear kilts.

That's really a tough ordeal to have to go through a second time....I hate to hear that for you. If that was me, I'd think I would want a refund or have it resleeved for free.

It's weird how people who maybe had fingers pointing towards them in the past, now do the pointing. It might be nice to TRY to be fair and understand what these people that overeat are going through. We've all "been there, done that" and at times we've had out of control eating and/or relentless unsatiable hunger. It's one thing to see them overeating and reflect back on yourself, not see yourself in a positive light in the past and glad you had a tool to help you not be like that any longer. But we've been there, we know how overaters feel and of all people..... we should understand and see things a little how they see them. I'll see someone like that and want to tell them (without offending them or them thinking I'm calling them fat) that there are possible tools for them out there as well and tell them how happy I am with mine. But I've rarely done that due to not knowing how they would take it. I would like to help them somehow instead of putting them down or judging them.

I think it depends on many variables like (age, muscle mass, liquid diet duration, if you're allowed some solids, etc). As for me, I was on the liquid diet for 2 1/2 weeks and lost 16 pounds.....but a good bit of that was muscle weight.

I think you'll love it! I thought it was very fun and for someone that doesn't like to run like me, that's saying something. Just maybe wear stuff that you are ok with ruining. Most of my clothes washed up pretty well, but it will be wet and muddy. I made sure of it by doing a head first slide (like in baseball) across the finish line.

I think I want to try it now!!

I know compound movements (pullups, deadlifts, squats, incline bench press, etc) really help build muscle and have helped me. I've not lost a ton of weight (60+ pounds so far), but I think I've added a good bit of muscle weight, lost a lot of fat and I have zero problem with saggy or excess skin. But then again, there's genetics and age involved as well. Just letting you know my experience.

Yeah, when some got to the top, they straddled it and gave a hand to their friend (or stranger) below. Some still couldn't get over it even with help. I saw a few people just run around it and keep going. But I think they should at least try getting over the wall and not just give up before they start....but that's just me I guess.

There was a wall (straight up verticle) that you could climb or use the rope. I tried both and it was really difficult due to all of the muddy competitors that had been there before me. The mud made it insanely wet and slippery. But maybe others were fine with it, especially the ones who ran earlier in the day while the wall/rope was dry.

Well, last weekend I really drank beer for the first time in almost a year. I had tried a sip or two a few months ago from a bottle and the carbonation made it awful on my stomach. A friend of mine had a get together last weekend and there was a keg of Yuengling (spelling?). It's seems to be true about the draft beer......much easier to drink and I had about 3 "solo cups" full of it in about a 2 hour span. It tasted wonderful and went down easily, not bothering my stomach! It was almost too good....now I'm thinking I can drink beer (draft) again. But going to try not to....way too many empty calories.