Massachusetts could become the first state to make it illegal for parents to spank their children. Today, at the Massachusetts State House, the hearing for a bill to ban the practice was standing room only - From ABCNews.com

I personally think spanking is child abuse, but I have a friend who insists that it is the best way to discipline his son. When he was a child he was beat quite severly by his mother but still insists on using this method of discipline.

You don't appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get older. Little things like being spanked every day by a middle aged woman, Stuff you pay good money for in later life.

You don't appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get older. Little things like being spanked every day by a middle aged woman, Stuff you pay good money for in later life.

Ah, you are referring to le vice anglais, also referred to as spanking. This became known as le vice anglais because English school boys of upper crust families were raised by nannies and then sent away to public (boarding) schools. Discipline came in the form of beatings and some of the boys did develop a sexual taste for spankies.

If I remember correctly le vice francais was oral sex and le vice grec was buggery or anal sex. These terms for sexual activities were once current in the English language and were often used in earlier and more guilt-ridden times.

Spankies, eh? Ooh, Derick, you naughty boy! :kiss2:

I agree with spanking, as long as the woman spanking me is smoking hot.

FINALLY, this thread is going somewhere interesting ...

Ah, you are referring to le vice anglais, also referred to as spanking. This became known as le vice anglais because English school boys of upper crust families were raised by nannies and then sent away to public (boarding) schools. Discipline came in the form of beatings and some of the boys did develop a sexual taste for spankies.

If I remember correctly le vice francais was oral sex and le vice grec was buggery or anal sex. These terms for sexual activities were once current in the English language and were often used in earlier and more guilt-ridden times.

Spankies, eh? Ooh, Derick, you naughty boy! :kiss2:

you have no idea how sexy you made that post sound/read...if only you were not taken

you have no idea how sexy you made that post sound/read...if only you were not taken

Hmmm....this moonbat is now thinking that she will PM with her blog site address. Ya might be amused.....:kiss2: Eh.

Please do...

I have in the past spanked my kid, who is now 11 years old. Great kid, never in trouble, good grades, and very respectfull to all. Now I hit him where it really hurts (if need be) I take away the PS3 and computer,lol, try it, it works better. Jaybird

You don't appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get older. Little things like being spanked every day by a middle aged woman, Stuff you pay good money for in later life.

Howled laughing at that, and so so true.

Green are you being a naughty grrrl?

I very very rarely smack the munchkins, I find that as I get older I have much more inventive ways.

The one rule that I have is to never make a threat that I cant carry out (unlike a friend of mine who routinely tells her kids that there will be no birthday party, christmas presents, they will never be allowed to go outside again - you get the picture)

I was so relieved when one of my DS finally got into the computer, it meant that finally there was something that I could ban him from!!!

I also operate a 'working off the ban' system which involves hard labour in exchange for a sentence reduction.

Time out is a good one ( well it works in so far as I dont have to listen to them fighting anymore) and my personal favorite is that old chestnut ' I am going to count to 5!!! -and then* insert suitable punishment as a consequence*'

I would never agree with banning smacking though, to be honest the sort of people that are going to beat their kids dont give two hoots that it is illegal already to do that, so why would they care that the lesser offense is also banned?

I have to say on the rare occasions that I have smacked one of the kids it works soooo well to control the masses for months and months afterwards.

Here is an example of what it can lead to.

BBC News | SCOTLAND | Tourist arrested for smacking child

BBC News | UK | Law change plea after smacking trial

Detective defended over smacking

A police chief has defended one of his officers who arrested a man he saw smacking his son in a Manchester shopping centre.

The boy's father was banned for six months from visiting his family home or having unsupervised contact with his son before the case came to trial.

He pleaded guilty to common assault on Wednesday but criticised the bail conditions, saying his family suffered.

But Chief Supt Alan Cooper said the officer did "exactly the right thing".

He added: "The evidence put before the court and from the Crown Prosecution Service indicates the slap given to the child was more than that.

It is difficult for parents, but this is not a slap on the ankle

Chief Supt Alan Cooper, Greater Manchester Police

"Witnesses say the man in question hit the child so hard he was raised into the air.

"I'm a parent, yes I have got children, yes they have taken me to the brink on many occasions.

"I don't think I have ever hit them so hard that they have flown through the air.

"The law says you can chastise lawfully. In the eyes of the court he went too far.

"It is difficult for parents, but this is not a slap on the ankle."

No phone contact

The 41-year-old father had been out with his partner and two children in the Chorlton area of Manchester when his son ran out in front of a car.

To chastise him, he smacked him once on the bottom, but was spotted by a Greater Manchester Police detective, arrested and charged.

He was released on bail, but the conditions banned him from the family home, having unsupervised contact with his son and, for several months, having phone contact with his son.

He was given a two-year rehabilitation order by Manchester magistrates on Wednesday. After the trial, he said: "It's not just been punishing for me, it's been punishing for [my partner] and the kids. "I was dealt with really unfairly."

I can say quite honestly as I lived in Manchester at the time that this was an absolute disgrace. The child in question had tried to run on the road 2 times! The first time he grabbed him back and told him off. The other thing that wasnt mentioned is that while he was banned from his home his wife was pregnant and gave birth, he was not allowed in his house at any time until after the court date.

So wrong !

[shaking head] Scary stuff, there.

If the guy spanked his son the first time he ran into the street and it didn't work, why do you think it should work the second time?

I hate the idea of parents being forcibly policed so as not to harm their children, but someone has to speak up for the children. This country has an unbelievable record of abusing and killing children. Maybe the pendulum is swinging too far in one direction, but it is for a very good reason.

There has been case after case where a foster parent or biological parent hit a child and after being investigated, the state decided that they were not a serious threat to the child. Only later after the child was horribly maimed and/or killed did the realization hit everyone that the child sure enough was in critical danger.

People should not believe that corporal punishment is okay. Too many people cannot control their anger. I don't think that beating dogs is all right either. Do you?

If the guy spanked his son the first time he ran into the street and it didn't work, why do you think it should work the second time?

Where does it say he spanked the first time he ran out and then a second time? I must have missed that part....

If the guy spanked his son the first time he ran into the street and it didn't work, why do you think it should work the second time?

I hate the idea of parents being forcibly policed so as not to harm their children, but someone has to speak up for the children. This country has an unbelievable record of abusing and killing children. Maybe the pendulum is swinging too far in one direction, but it is for a very good reason.

There has been case after case where a foster parent or biological parent hit a child and after being investigated, the state decided that they were not a serious threat to the child. Only later after the child was horribly maimed and/or killed did the realization hit everyone that the child sure enough was in critical danger.

People should not believe that corporal punishment is okay. Too many people cannot control their anger. I don't think that beating dogs is all right either. Do you?

Where did I sat that he hit the child first time? The first time he just told him off, guess he should have just let the child run out and get maimed by a car then? He did not BEAT the child he smacked his backside ONCE.

You think that justifies him being arrested and kept from his wife and kids for months???????