Okay please tell me DS is also known as loop or MGB or SIPS am I right?

Why are people saying that surgery is better weight loss in very curious if people can give me the scientific reasoning or personal experience???

All I can find is information showing bad bile reflux with the DS/MGB

They both sound similar RNY or DS??? I'M THINKING ABOUT RNY but maybe someone can convince me otherwise before I choose surgeon!!

a true DS is different from an MGB and a SIPS. I don't really know much about SIPS, but I know some surgeons do those now instead of a true DS. They're somewhat similar but not the same as I understand. An MGB is a variation of the RNY.

a true DS is the most powerful of the current weight loss surgeries . It's a sleeved stomach (VSG) with a partial intestinal bypass. It tends to produce the greatest amount of weight loss and an easier maintenance (because of the malabsorption). But vitamin deficient risk is also the greatest with it, so you have to be really religious about taking your supplements.

since a DS involved a sleeved stomach, yes, there would be a greater risk of reflux with that than with an RNY. An RNY often improves - if not cures - reflux, whereas there's a risk of reflux with a sleeved stomach (note I said risk - not everyone who has a sleeved stomach develops reflux).

btw - there's also a malabsorption component with the RNY, but it's not as great as with the DS. Not as much of the intestine is bypassed with the RNY.

Edited February 13, 20197 yr by catwoman7

2 minutes ago, catwoman7 said:

a true DS is different from an MGB and a SIPS. I don't really know much about SIPS, but I know some surgeons do those now instead of a true DS. They're somewhat similar but not the same as I understand. An MGB is a variation of the RNY.

a true DS is the most powerful of the current weight loss surgeries . It's a sleeved stomach (VSG) with a partial intestinal bypass. It tends to produce the greatest amount of weight loss and an easier maintenance (because of the malabsorption). But Vitamin deficient risk is also the greatest with it, so you have to be really religious about taking your supplements.

since a DS involved a sleeved stomach, yes, there would be a greater risk of reflux with that than with an RNY. An RNY often improves - if not cures - reflux, whereas there's a risk of reflux with a sleeved stomach (note I said risk - not everyone who has a sleeved stomach develops reflux).

btw - there's also a malabsorption component with the RNY, but it's not as great as with the DS. Not as much of the intestine is bypassed with the RNY.

I'm finding very little details of the true DS in Australia...

1 minute ago, Mikeyy said:

I'm finding very little details of the true DS in Australia...

it's not done all that much in the US, either. I think I read only about 10% of weight loss surgeries in the US are DS (it may even be lower than that)

Dude. Are you having surgery tomorrow?

LOL. Relax. Chill.

Quit typing in all caps and yellin' for help. LOL. There aren't a whole lot of DS peeps on this board. There are a few...but flooding the boards won't get 'em to you any quicker. You're better served using the Search Function on the site.

Dude. Are you having surgery tomorrow?
LOL. Relax. Chill.
Quit typing in all caps and yellin' for help. LOL. There aren't a whole lot of DS peeps on this board. There are a few...but flooding the boards won't get 'em to you any quicker. You're better served using the Search Function on the site.

And also it helps if you don't post the same question in multiple forums dude. The peeps who are willing to answer you patiently will see your question and answer it.

Sorry sorry I get anxiety I've been going through pages and pages trying to find specific info but haven't found my bad....

You can also Google your questions and it will bring up stuff from this site and another big site called Obesity Help. They have more DSers over there I think? It's not a commonly performed procedure. The analogy to this is that it's like bringing a Howitzer to a knife fight. As a first line surgery...

Edited February 13, 20197 yr by FluffyChix

Thanks I'm just doing research it's a big decision

Of course it is. And so you should. We all did our homework. It's expected. Just no more frantic "HELLLLLLPPPPSSSSS", cuz it just alienates peeps.

Sorry sorry I get anxiety I've been going through pages and pages trying to find specific info but haven't found my bad....

That's okay, we've all been there with the pre-surgery anxiety!

@Mikeyy

It's a big decision and a lifelong commitment. You're right. You definitely want to do your research because you want to "think twice and cut once".

BPD/DS, DS = Biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch also known as Traditional Duodenal Switch or duodenal switch.

BPD = Biliopancreatic diversion. Not DS.

MGB= Mini Gastric Bypass. Not DS

RNY = Gastric Bypass. Not DS.

SIPS, SADI = single anastomosis duodenal switch. Not DS.

Have you been to dsfacts? It has tons of information on what's what concerning the DS.

Edited February 13, 20197 yr by Postop

2 hours ago, Postop said:

@Mikeyy

It's a big decision and a lifelong commitment. You're right. You definitely want to do your research because you want to "think twice and cut once".

BPD/DS, DS = Biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch also known as Traditional Duodenal Switch or duodenal switch.

BPD = Biliopancreatic diversion. Not DS.

MGB= Mini Gastric Bypass. Not DS

RNY = Gastric Bypass. Not DS.

SIPS, SADI = single anastomosis duodenal switch. Not DS.

Have you been to dsfacts? It has tons of information on what's what concerning the DS.

I'm so confused...

I've been looking so much into the RNY but then I've heard about DS being even better for weight loss and the only thing I could find on a local doctor website was medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/19499.htm

I'll have to ask if it is with DS or not or just regular BPD? What do you know about regular BPD? Tnx

45 minutes ago, Mikeyy said:

I'm so confused...

I've been looking so much into the RNY but then I've heard about DS being even better for weight loss and the only thing I could find on a local doctor website was medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/19499.htm

I'll have to ask if it is with DS or not or just regular BPD? What do you know about regular BPD? Tnx

I don't know the answer to your last question, but just so you know, not many bariatric surgeons perform the DS, and it's not a common surgery, so that's probably why you're not finding much. Check out that dsfacts site that an above poster mentioned - I was on that site once and found it very helpful.

@MikeyyI know it can be confusing. You don't want the BPD alone. Bad side effects. You want the BPD/DS if you want the traditional DS (with 2 anastomoses). Or you can talk to your doctor about the SIPS/SADI/Single anastomosis procedure. It's a less radical type of DS.

Have you spoken to Prof. Nottle in Melbourne? I know he does the traditional DS.

And definitely go to dsfacts.com. It'll answer some of your questions, I think

Also, if you ever wanted to have it done in California, 2 of the best DS surgeons are there..

16 minutes ago, Postop said:

@MikeyyI know it can be confusing. You don't want the BPD alone. Bad side effects. You want the BPD/DS if you want the traditional DS (with 2 anastomoses). Or you can talk to your doctor about the SIPS/SADI/Single anastomosis procedure. It's a less radical type of DS.

Have you spoken to Prof. Nottle in Melbourne? I know he does the traditional DS.

And definitely go to dsfacts.com. It'll answer some of your questions, I think

Also, if you ever wanted to have it done in California, 2 of the best DS surgeons are there..

Spoken to multiple doctors in Adelaide none of them offer traditional DS! I DON'T KNOW if I can afford to go interstate. Planes and hotels etc surely RNY BYPASS is still good enough?