Today I have been snacking like no ones business, kind of. Today I had a sandwich. It was a mini sandwich that took me the day to eat, I hate it in halves. I then ate fruit and snacked on two Krispy Kreme doughnuts. I did not need them but they were awesome! I have still been losing weight and I have been being careful, but today was crazy. I will not punish myself but I will also continue to watch my portions, exercise and LIVE!

HW: 346

SW: 304

CW: 247

GW: 200 (for now)

One of the amazing things is that since having surgery my tastes have changed much more towards healthy foods! Although I have occasional cravings they are not as extreme as before surgery (and I didn't crave much because I consistently (over)indulged.) I really find myself craving vegetables at the moment, but for some reason my plan does not allow for them for two more weeks!

I bought a spiral vegetable slicer and I'm going to try some zoodles some time in the next week. With spaghetti sauce and protein powder. I'm excited about that too.

But today it's pizza sans crust. I'm excited about that!

10 minutes ago, Berry78 said:

I love Dr. Weiner, haven't gone back to watch his videos postop.. (need to).. but I also have the concern about Protein. The best vegetable sources are Beans and seeds/nuts. It takes about 4oz of beans to get 7g of protein, and 1oz of nuts to get 7g protein. (Give or take a gram, depending on type). We would have to eat 4oz of nuts plus 16oz beans to meet our minimum requirements. (That would be all I could eat in a day, spread out among 8 "meals") There wouldn't be a leafy vegetable in sight.

But, if you replace 16oz beans with 4oz fish or meat, then suddenly things become much easier. Keep 1oz nuts, and replace the other 3 with egg, dairy, and beans.. now we're getting a nice round diet that still has room for fruits and veggies.

That's pretty much what he wants you to do- get most of your protein from beans and nuts, and transition away from the protein drinks ASAP. I agree, that's a lot to eat in one day, and for me the best solution seems to be a combination of legumes and meat. And also I don't see the harm in adding protein powder as needed to make up the difference. I'm not sure if he has anything against protein powder or not, I think he does.

I am badly craving vegetables (NEVER thought I'd say that) and fruit, but it is prohibited on my plan for another two weeks. I think this is weird, but I imagine it is done out of concern for protein goals. I'd just about KILL for a salad right now, believe it or not!

I enjoy a high protein coffe shake every morning. It gives me 20g of protein and 2 shots of expresso to start my day. This is an improvement for me as I used to skip breakfast altogether.

25 minutes ago, gwbicster said:

also I don't see the harm in adding Protein Powder as needed to make up the difference. I'm not sure if he has anything against protein powder or not, I think he does.

If I remember correctly he said using protein shakes for the first several months was fine, but we should wean ourselves away from them once we can eat enough protein from Whole Foods.

I agree but I also think keeping a few low carb shakes in an otherwise healthy diet won't hurt me.

Many people use protein shakes long term (especially for breakfast). I used them exclusively during the preop diet, but postop I haven't been able to tolerate them AT ALL. Even 3 months out, I tried again, and gave up, throwing the leftovers from preop away.

I was able to meet my protein goals through dairy by about 12 days postop.. (and I was on clear liquids for the first 7 days, no protein shakes allowed.. so once I went to full liquids it only took a few days to start meeting my goal). Been meeting it ever since.

As for no veggies.. raw veggies are very hard on the healing tummy. Soft, cooked veggies are ok sooner, but you have to get your protein first, and only eat your veggies if you have room at the end of the day. Shucks, I'm just about 4 months out, and I still don't always have room for my veggies

I want to offer a little tough love here. You can completely ignore this if you want, but it comes from a place of having been there and done that and wanting to warn you.
Consuming two krispy cream donuts in a day is not cheating, it is binging with the size stomachs that we have. In fact the size of your stomach is probably the only thing that stopped you from eating more.
Before I had WLS I tried to follow various diets like most everyone, and the first sign that I was losing my willpower was allowing sweets back into my diet. Once you start you know how hard it is to stop.You have this window of opportunity to change your eating habits and relationships with food. Stay strong think about the reasons why you wanted to lose weight and get healthy. Are they worth eating a krispy cream donut?
Focus on the plan your doc/nut have you and be successful.

Thank you for the advice, but I really am okay. I only ate them because I wanted "something". I don't even care for doughnuts, nor do I buy them. My stomach is not what stopped me from eating them, it was me. I did not need anymore. I was at my in-laws house. My relationship with food has changed so much that I no longer crave the foods I used to eat. I've been sticking to the plan as I should. My surgery date was April 3rd and since then I've lost 57lbs. and I'm moving forward. I will not always fall off but I thank people like you to keep me focused. Thanks a bunch and good luck to you too!

For me it was/is (simple) carbs. Sweets don't really tempt me at all.

I had mashed potatoes a couple times and I regret that now. IMO the particular danger with carbs in addition to the addiction principles, is the fact that it passes so easily in our sleeve. So you can eat more of that than you can of "real" food, and it doesn't really keep you full.

Still, I refuse to beat myself up about it- it happened, I am human, and I will remain positive and try my best not to let it happen again. And if it happens- oh well, my body will likely punish me for it and that punishment is sufficient.

I think everyone has to figure out things for themselves and for some of us that requires trial and error. I've had to throw up a couple times to figure out what my limits are in terms of quantity of food. In some cases, for certain foods, that is LESS than the doctor allows. We are all different- what works for me may not work for you, "it takes Diff'rent Strokes to move the world!"

Agreed! Some things that I find affects others, does not affect me. I did it and that was it. I felt good because it could have been worse and it wasn't. I still stick to eating what I should. That is what's important to me. I can not and will not beat myself up either. Good luck to you as well.

Agreed! Some things that I find affects others, does not affect me. I did it and that was it. I felt good because it could have been worse and it wasn't. I still stick to eating what I should. That is what's important to me. I can not and will not beat myself up either. Good luck to you as well.

I sometimes have as I say out of control days myself. Just try not to do it. I am not sure why I do this I am 7 months out and still feel out of control sometimes.

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I'm 9 months deep into this and I've allowed myself a donut now and then, some ICE CREAM!! lol! Yes, Ice Cream. And other treats. But I can only eat such small quantities at a time it's almost irrelevant. I get Dumping Syndrome so I keep my sugar intake very low. Even when I indulge.

I reject ANY notion or thought process that doesn't allow for us to live our lives to fullest and enjoy treats from time to time. I had this surgery so I could go back living my life, not so I continued to live in chains.

I'm 9 months deep into this and I've allowed myself a donut now and then, some ICE CREAM!! lol! Yes, Ice Cream. And other treats. But I can only eat such small quantities at a time it's almost irrelevant. I get Dumping Syndrome so I keep my sugar intake very low. Even when I indulge.

I reject ANY notion or thought process that doesn't allow for us to live our lives to fullest and enjoy treats from time to time. I had this surgery so I could go back living my life, not so I continued to live in chains.

NO YOUR NOT ALOUD TO "INDULGE" hahaha having a treat every now and again is good idc what these idiots say on here bla bla it will start old habits. It's your life do what you want . [emoji4]

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2 hours ago, LittleLizzieLilliput said:

I'm 9 months deep into this and I've allowed myself a donut now and then, some ICE CREAM!! lol! Yes, Ice Cream. And other treats. But I can only eat such small quantities at a time it's almost irrelevant. I get Dumping Syndrome so I keep my sugar intake very low. Even when I indulge.

I reject ANY notion or thought process that doesn't allow for us to live our lives to fullest and enjoy treats from time to time. I had this surgery so I could go back living my life, not so I continued to live in chains.

I agree a treat once in a while is not going to hurt anyone, but the OP said she ate 2 donuts. In my mind that is way more than a treat. Honestly most people of a healthy weight don't pig out on sweets that is why they are a healthy weight. The further out you get from surgery the more you will be able to eat so I am guarding against getting back into the habits that got me overweight in the first place.

I intend to live my life to the fullest also and the only way that is going to happen is if I maintain a healthy sustainable diet and exercise program. I am happy that you are able to indulge and keep losing weight that is great.

I feel better than I have in 10 years so I will keep doing what works for me. There are no chains on me and never will be. We all make our own decisions everyday.

1 hour ago, shericrazylady said:

NO YOUR NOT ALOUD TO "INDULGE" hahaha having a treat every now and again is good idc what these idiots say on here bla bla it will start old habits. It's your life do what you want .

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So everyone here that gives advice to those who post for help are idiots???

I don't even have an answer for that except. Good luck.

Read this. She speaks from experience.

https://www.bariatriceating.com/2013/03/bariatric-surgery-only-makes-your-stomach-smaller-otherwise-youre-exactly-the-same/

1 hour ago, Greensleevie said:

Read this. She speaks from experience.

https://www.bariatriceating.com/2013/03/bariatric-surgery-only-makes-your-stomach-smaller-otherwise-youre-exactly-the-same/

Thank you for posting this link. I know I am still early in the process, but I have been doing my research and Dr. Weiner says the same things. You can't keep eating the same foods that got you overweight to begin with. You must change your eating habits to have long term success.

I think people are talking about two different things.

One, folks extrapolating and addressing the OP as if reverting to binge eating and sabotaging their entire life/process.

Two, folks extrapolating and addressing the OP's statement that they understand they over-ate and trying to find their balance.

The OP specifically said they are not looking to punish themselves but acknowledged portion control as an issue they need to keep working on. I think admonishing or guilt/shaming a person or trying to scare them is not the way to support our process. I believe in encouraging people to accept and recognize they made mistakes or missteps, using that to learn and grow, and not making ourselves feel so bad that we have guilt (Which, to be honest, is one of my BIGGEST food triggers. Guilt over my own food choices) because that leads to self-hate which leads to sabotaging.

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