Last night I had my worst PB, slime and all. I'm the girl that felt left out because I never PB, then BOOM, it was awful. I'm coming down with the crud so I was on cold medicine. I think I know what I did wrong - I waited too late to eat dinner. I went shopping after work and shopped till I literally dropped into a chair at 10 p.m., super hungry, with my plate of the same old food I always eat (chicken, refris, tort chips.) I chewed really well, but I must have swallowed too fast. I only got a few bites in. An hour later I was really hungry, but Michelle's voice was in my head saying, "only liquids for a couple days." Well, I opted for a piece of fudge, which slid right on down. Not a good choice, but I was so hungry and there was nothing else soft around (a little Christmas fib.) Today I will try to stick with liquids (chocolate is a liquid cuz it melts.)

Teresa, I've never heard of shoulder blade pain associated with a PB. Are you sure there's not something else going on?

I always get clear warning signs. Sometimes my Band doesn't want me to eat, even though I haven't eaten all day. I get warnings almost immediately, even after a bite or two. food feels trapped somewhere between my throat or chest. I have to keep swallowing and gulping. My warning sign is to stop eating - if I take one more bite I'm in big trouble. Usually, if I've only had a few bites, this horrible feeling will pass after 5 minutes, then I can finish my meal slower

I've been able to produce my own PB with just sucking in air and forcing out a deep belch from my throat (I've only done this when the pain was bad and I wanted the object out of me.) Kinda like animals who have the ability to intentionally regurgitate.

Mine always happen as I'm eating. And always from swallowing too fast or swallowing too big of a chunk. I haven't had one in public, although I've had to stop eating at restaurants because I started my meal eating fast and got the horrible warning signs.

Jack... I got very clear warnings prior to my first fill... and the warnings just became a lot more subtle after my fills. Now... if I ignore that warning... I have pain in the chest and between the shoulder blades like Teresa... sliming... and a whole lotta belching! I usually have to walk it off... and I can't continue with my meal once that happens... zip... nada... nil. I don't know why I ignore the warning sometimes... I guess my head is hungrier than my good sense! I am always very cautious after a fill until I can gauge the restriction level. You are going to do just fine with your band and it sounds like you are really taking the time to experiment carefully with different foods.

Can someone please tell me what is slime and PB? I guess this hasn't happened to me yet!

shoulder pain with a PB is very common

had it happen yesterday as a matter of fact with my son and his friend in the car. i never eat while driving but my son was eating something and asked me to taste it so i did like a dummy and took too big of a bite and did not chew it preoperely and it was the worst pb i have ever ever experienced, so far i have pbed 4 times in 10 months and yesterdays was the one from hell. i got a bite stuck for a good 30 minutes and had the slime, saliva and horrible pain in my chest and shoulder. finally asked my son to dump his coke out the window so i could use his cup to pb in, it was not a pretty sight while drving , he and his friend were a little grossed out. been on liquids all day cuz i know im swollen something fierce, my esophagus had a major work out with that bite. i have heard from many and read posts from many that the shoulder pain is common more so when you have a nice tight fill and daily restriction

Wow, I learn something every day. Never had any shoulder pain, but I totally understand the horror of the chest pain and having to spit up.

When I'm trying to have a bad PB, I walk in circles around my house like a crazy lady pounding my chest. Sometimes my husband stands in my way so I just shove him and keep walking. You would think he'd learn by now, but at least he knows the warning signs so he always runs and grabs me a handful of paper towels.

Jack, no warning here and it's so aggravating. I can eat one thing one day, a day later eat the same thing and slimeville. Then I may go a couple of days without. BUT, it's amazing, chili and refried Beans I never have a problem with. I have paid much more attention and it's definately happens more often with solids, like a small bite of soft taco shell or bite of a pancake, this am even soft mushy egg did it, (right after a bite of a pancake, lol). I sure wanted that dang egg this morning too, darn it.

Some days I don't feel any restriction, then I'll maybe take a bigger bite and/or swallow too quickly and it will not stay down. So from now on at restaurants if it's not chili I'm not ordering it. It's so embrsn to have to rush to restroom to spit and spit and spit and well you get the picture.

Good luck with the fill.

What exactly is a PB- Is this vomiting?

Sorry I'm researching the lap band, and I read alot about "PB"

Labuttr, a PB is kind of hard to explain until you actually have one. I had a band for several months without a PB, so I thought something was wrong with me. Then out of the blue, I had my first one, and it was awful. We probably all have different ways of describing it, but for me it starts somewhere between my throat and chest, as if you try to swallow something but it won't go downt. It's not like choking though, but like a painful pressure in your chest. When you first feel it, you have to stop eating. I always have a hard time catching my breath, and I keep gulping hoping the thing will pass. I think it's because the food gets trapped in the esophagus. Sometimes, the lump will finally pass, but other times you suddenly spit up thick slime. I usually spit up thick slime a couple times, then on the third kind of hurl the offending stuck food will come back up with the slime. I have always had warning signs, but some people don't get warnings. I can personally avoid all PB's by taking small bites, chewing very slow, and stopping when I'm full. All my PBs have happened after gulping something too big and too fast. It's not a good idea to let yourself get too hungry with the band, and all my PB episodes have been when I let myself get too hungry then try to make up for lost time by wolfing some food.

Lisa I agree my sliming experiences have been when I was hungry too and woffin food down. The slime is more of an aggrivation, whereas the golfball stuck in the chest is down right painful. I have to walk it off too. As I mentioned in another post it seems if you suck air in it makes it worse, so I try not to breath, I even do a little jumping up and down trying to get it to pass. I rarely get the golf ball anymore, and I haven't slimed today either.

I mentioned in another thread a few minutes ago, I actually was full today, for the first time since my surgery. It was a good feeling, but it almost made me feel like I had over done it, but no slime or golf ball.

Hope you're feeling well Lisa.

LOL My boyfriend tries to talk to me when Im having an attack, I want to scream at him but Im to busy gasping for air, I keep motioning him to go away and he still keeps standing there talking to me uuugggghhha

LOL My boyfriend tries to talk to me when Im having an attack, I want to scream at him but Im to busy gasping for air, I keep motioning him to go away and he still keeps standing there talking to me uuugggghhha

Like you can really chit-chat right then! LOL

bumping for Carey

banded, my dh does the same thing, LOL!!!

Boy I am feeling really stupid! Was banded May 2nd and have not had a fill yet because I lost 25 lbs the first month.

I do not feel restricted at all but do stop eating after half a cup fo food.

So, can somebody please tell me what a pb is? Do you only get pb's after a fill?

Is it reflux? Is is pukeing and barfing? It doesn't sound like anything I want to do soon!!

A PB is something that happens when you eat too fast, or when you try to swallow a bite that's too big. The particle gets trapped and can't pass through the band, and the sensation is horrible and hard to explain. PB is short for Productive Burp. You'll be eating, then suddenly feel like a golf ball is trapped somewhere in your throat or esophagus or chest. Hard to describe, and everyone has a different version, but my eyes start to Water, it's hard for me to talk, the pain & pressure makes me keep trying to swallow but that doesn't help press the offending particle down. I march around the house pounding my chest, but that doesn't help either. Then, either the stuck particle will suddenly pass through, which will bring you immediately relief, or you will have a famous PB, where you'll kind of upchuck wads of gross slime a couple times, then the stuck particle will come out your throat and you'll spit it up. As soon as the thing gets unstuck from either going down or back up, you'll feel normal again. It's almost like a heart-attack feeling of pain & pressure, only in the throat/neck/chest kinda area.

To avoid them, don't eat fast - ever. Chew your food till it's mush - always. Don't ever drink during a PB because it makes it worse, not better. liquid will not push the thing through.

Good luck!