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The Uncomfortable Truth....

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Okay, I've been forced to do a lot of soul-searching recently.

Despite sailing through any pre-operative psychological assessment (in fact I was so convincing and probably 'cause I was self pay I wasn't actually referred for the full tests), there is a nagging truth which keeps tapping me on the shoulder and making me uncomfortably aware of the reasons as to why I found myself in this position. The position whereby I felt bariatric surgery was my only viable option to lose weight and take control of my diet. Or more accurately and for me; my portion size.

Although I can intellectualise my way out of a paper bag (as was stated by the psychologist when I finally met them), I had, and have, to be honest as to the reasons I ended up this big.

The answer, as painful as it is, was; my mother.

My mother is a tough cookie. Born in a depressive era in Ireland, with enumerate siblings. She was poor and although educated, she was curtailed in her life choices and was always shown that 'if you love someone, you feed them'. I assume this was their truth, as to feed a very big family was difficult at this time, and was the only example her poor long-suffering and abused mother could muster under extreme circumstances. It was also the only expected long-term outlook for women of childbearing age.

The impact of this, was clearly passed down the genetic line. That in this, the nature/nurture argument for our food weaknesses becomes more pressing. This was exemplified not only in the way my mother behaved generally, but how she administered herself in her marriage and how she behaved with her children.

The extent of this dysfunction only became apparent in how skewed my food choices (and more appropriately: portion sizes) were - and how I was born into those food choices - when recently cooking for my mother. She skipped anything resembling a vegetable, ate her body-weight in meat, potatoes and fresh bread (despite my making from scratch; Hummus, Baba Ganoush, Fatttoush and Lamb kebab). She was a wonderful cook herself and we never went without anything (all food groups represented) and it was never out of a packet. However, I got a rude awakening as to how a mothers preferences in showing affection and her deeper psychological state, totally influenced us kids.

When pressing me on my weight loss, she conceded that she'd always focussed too much on the carbs ('tis an Irish thing) when we were children and how she'd misrepresented the importance of bread and potatoes in our diet. This was also, and sadly, tempered with how her inability to show affection, manifested itself in the reward system she'd assigned for herself. In that by feeding her offspring, she'd aligned this with the ultimate expression of love....

As much as I love my mother and as much of a wonderful cook she was; I realised that the burden of responsibility for the reason I was so overweight as a child, which then carried on into adulthood, was as much her responsibility as it was mine. I, too, now feed those I love. Not because I have an incapability to show love, but that these deeply engrained examples have become the example I work from. Despite these factors changing - because of the surgery - I can see where these behaviours are hard cycles to break and have left me with a mental quandary over identity and 'healthy' expressions of love and affection.

I have no idea as to the extent to how people evaluate the impact of bariatric surgery on their lives. Tactical and strategic analysis is difficult to do when everyone is so enraptured by the immediate gratification gained from losing pounds and having all those non-scale-victories (lest we talk about the 'my cats blacker' self affirming attitudes which occasional pervades this website).... But has it forced you to re-evaluate the causes for your issue?

Have you searched your soul and now have a better handle on how you ended up in this position? 'Cause lets face it - most of us can sit in a psychologist's chair for hours at a time, spinning the wheel - but unless you're willing to strip back your insecurities to the bare-bones truth, doesn't it all feel a bit, well, empty?

Have we learnt anything other than to count the carbs, count the Protein, measure the Water consumption and count the calories in order to be fitter, tighter, healthier, smaller, more socially acceptable?

I truly believe our surgical endeavors absolutely force us to re-evaluate our lives, our succor/comfort systems and our behaviour. Consequently and because of how hard it is (emotionally), do we not sneer with derision at those who proffer 'surgery is the easy option'. Out of the curtailment of our ability to chow down and eat our way to 'happiness'; is there not something more emotional and scarily deep, that we've had to confront every time we look in the mirror?

i know I'm not an island unto myself. We were weak. We are, still, weak.

Outside of the victories in maintaining a life of low fat, cottage cheese virtuous goodness. There is a deeper significance to combating the external expression of our hurt.

What are yours?

With utmost respect and affection,

Revs x

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Is he a so called doctor? He definitely isn't much of a so called writer. So...

That's right, lets verbally beat the stuffing out of him...lol

Edited by RJ'S/beginning

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peas pudding and saveloy's anyone?!

Memememememememememememe! :D

ShitED are you saying I should of stayed fat 3 more years then lose the weight and not have to worry about crossover addictions!

peas pudding and saveloy's anyone?!

Memememememememememememe! :D

lol...Please sir can I have some more....

ShitED are you saying I should of stayed fat 3 more years then lose the weight and not have to worry about crossover addictions!

Yup that's what he said...so basically once I get this under wraps ...I,m free as the breeze and I'll do as I please, just bumming around!!!!!

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2464740-when-things-fall-apart-heart-advice-for-difficult-times

We are not alone. It is the human condition.

I humbly submit with this vulnerable heart-felt thread I think this book and these quotes harmonize with what most are saying. It may give comfort, It does to me sometimes.

My favorite quote:

“We think that the point is to pass the test or overcome the problem, but the truth is that things don't really get solved. They come together and they fall apart. Then they come together again and fall apart again. It's just like that. The healing comes from letting there be room for all of this to happen: room for grief, for relief, for misery, for joy. (10)”
Pema Chödrön, When Things Fall Apart: Heartfelt Advice for Hard Times

I saw a lot of this quote below in reading this thread - seemed spot on.

“The most fundamental aggression to ourselves, the most fundamental harm we can do to ourselves, is to remain ignorant by not having the courage and the respect to look at ourselves honestly and gently.”
Pema Chödrön, When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times

You all have courage and balls of steel....err, well, you get my meaning.

Edited by bearman99

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2464740-when-things-fall-apart-heart-advice-for-difficult-times

We are not alone. It is the human condition.

I humbly submit with this vulnerable heart-felt thread I think this book and these quotes harmonize with what most are saying. It may give comfort, It does to me sometimes.

My favorite quote:

“We think that the point is to pass the test or overcome the problem, but the truth is that things don't really get solved. They come together and they fall apart. Then they come together again and fall apart again. It's just like that. The healing comes from letting there be room for all of this to happen: room for grief, for relief, for misery, for joy. (10)”

Pema Chödrön, When Things Fall Apart: Heartfelt Advice for Hard Times

I agree..I think that food addiction will always be just under the surface, ready to rear its ugly head as soon as things are good or things are bad...which it is always one or the other..So it is a constant fight in life to control the addiction...Once an alcoholic always considered to be one ..Same as food addiction. Can't let your guard down for too long...:(

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Yes, I am a girl and you've never seen bigger balls of steel! Mine are HUGE :D

Welcome to the party, Bearman!

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I thought this one quite good...

“We don't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts.”

Who'da thunk it ;)

With this thread I just became convinced this a forum my fucked up self can fit right in.

Thank you.

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Or this one..

"“What happens with you when you begin to feel uneasy, unsettled, queasy? Notice the panic, notice when you instantly grab for something. (51)”

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And the final BOOOOOOOM!!

“The most fundamental aggression to ourselves, the most fundamental harm we can do to ourselves, is to remain ignorant by not having the courage and the respect to look at ourselves honestly and gently.”

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Okay, enough quotes. I'm sorry. :blink:

And your particular brand of f-upness is most welcome, Bearman. :D

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