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I want pizza!

I have seen a commercial for every take out and frozen pizza today! I may cry now! Lol!

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  • Ok so how about something less scientific? First, this behavior is the first steps of bulemia and getting into the habit of chewing food and spitting it out can lead to a very serious eating disorde

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Well its natural to want it, how many years have you been eating it? So chew and spit is good just take a small bite so u don't swallow any food accidentally.

Obviously not 'ok' for liquid stage, but someone posted this a few days ago:

NO DOUGH PIZZA!!!!!!! This one is a WINNER!!!!

Gluten Free, Low Carb, Diabetic Friendly!!!!!!

For when you absolutely want pizza but not all the carbs!!!!!!!

Crust

1 (8 oz) package of full fat cream cheese, room temperature

2 eggs

1/4 tsp ground black pepper

1 tsp garlic powder

1/4 cup grated parmesan cheese

Topping

1/2 cup pizza sauce

1 1/2 cups shredded mozzarella cheese

toppings - pepperoni, ham, sausage, mushrooms, peppers

Garlic powder

Preheat oven to 350.

Lightly spay a 9×13 baking dish with cooking spray. With a handheld mixer, mix cream cheese, eggs, pepper, garlic powder and parmesan cheese until combined. Spread into baking dish. Bake for 12-15 minutes, our until golden brown. Allow crust to cool for 10 minutes.

Spread pizza sauce on crust. Top with cheese and toppings. Sprinkle pizza with garlic powder. Bake 8-10 minutes, until cheese is melted.

Tried the crem cheese pizza crust, and it's more like cheesecake. Was very rich and hurt my stomach. Tbe cauliflower one was more dough like, with a great flavor.

Chewing and spitting the food out is NOT a good thing to do.

RISKS,

Most report the practice of CHSP becomes “addictive” and difficult to cease.

Because the individual avoids consuming the food through normal means of digestion he/she risks suffering from improper nutrition.

CHSP can lead to ulcers because when food is in the mouth it triggers an acid release in the stomach, which can attack stomach lining when food is not present for digestion.

CHSP behavior can be as physically, emotionally and physiologically negative as severe food restriction and/or binge eating.

Even though the food is being spit out, it is often possible that the person does not lose weight, because

a) some of the calories still make it into one’s system,

B) those engaged in such behaviors may be prone to erratic eating in addition to CHSP, and/or c) the body reacts in unpredictable ways to the behavior, including releasing insulin into the body, triggered by food’s presence in the mouth.

This is what I did at about 7 weeks out. It will give you something to look forward to. I purchased Mission Brand Low Carb (small) tortillas, the white kind & I baked it to get it firm, then I topped it with pizza sauce & reg pepperoni. Now we know that turkey pepperoni prob would have been better option, but I was counting my coins that day, lol! Anyway, I topped it with pizza flavored cheese also & but it into four. I enjoyed it & it satisfied the craving. Hope this helps!! :-)

Chewing and spitting the food out is NOT a good thing to do.

Thank you Laura, I was sitting here reading & thinking this definitely was not a healthy behavior.... Appreciate the stats behind why.

Laura-ven... Appreciate the scientific information, but if someone 1 week post op puts a piece of hamburger in their mouth & spits it out just to get the feeling of food in their mouth since they have been on liquids for weeks, I really don't think it is going to be a problem. The only real risk with doing this one time is actually swallowing the food. We are not talking about someone constantly putting food they should not be eating in their mouth & spitting it out, so all your information is great, but more appropriate for a post where someone is maybe 4 months post op and puts junk food in their mouth & spits it out constantly.

Laura-ven... Appreciate the scientific information' date=' but if someone 1 week post op puts a piece of hamburger in their mouth & spits it out just to get the feeling of food in their mouth since they have been on liquids for weeks, I really don't think it is going to be a problem. The only real risk with doing this one time is actually swallowing the food. We are not talking about someone constantly putting food they should not be eating in their mouth & spitting it out, so all your information is great, but more appropriate for a post where someone is maybe 4 months post op and puts junk food in their mouth & spits it out constantly.[/quote']

Take it as you will... But there are so many more reasons why it's not a good idea.

Isn't the whole point of WLS to make ourselves healthier and to not eat these types of bad foods. Seems to me that this is defeating the whole point of this and were only hurting ourselves. Especially in the beginning stages, we shouldn't allow ourselves the taste of it because it will make us want it down the road. This is just my opinion.

First of all, I have not put anything other than liquids in my mouth. I have read a lot on this website that many people do this, put food in their mouth, chew it & spit it out, during the liquid phase. Do I think it is detrimental? No. Would I personally do it? No. I know many, if not not most, people who are months post op and indeed do eat a hamburger or pizza. There are far worse things that I feel passionately about and disagree with regarding what people do after having this surgery. If someone puts a piece of steak in their mouth ONE time during their liquid phase, I do not think they are sabotaging their success or health, as long as they remember to spit it out.

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Ok so how about something less scientific?

First, this behavior is the first steps of bulemia and getting into the habit of chewing food and spitting it out can lead to a very serious eating disorder. After WLS we are already dealing with changing the way we relate to food, so we want to instill good habits all along the way and avoid the bad ones as much as possible.

Second, there's a biological reason not to do this too. When you smell food and when it enters your mouth and you begin to chew, the body goes into Prep Mode to receive food. Your salivary glands produce saliva, your pancreas produces insulin, your liver produces gastric acid and your brain begins to calculate how much nutrition you're about to receive from the food you eat so it can keep track of it's daily needs/calories --- the body is a well tuned machine and it knows how to deal with food when it knows it's coming. But then you spit out the food. Your body still has excess saliva, insulin, gastric acid and it can't figure out why it didn't get the nutrition it thought it was going to get so the brain accountants go nuts.

Excess insulin in your body causes your appetite to increase so you'll eat more food to soak up all that extra hormone. Excess gastric acid in the stomach -- now released at the Y of your common channel -- can cause indigestion or heartburn or ulcers. And those brain accountants are now doing some creative math to recalculate the nutritional value of food because it thought it was going to get a certain number of calories, but none came, so next time you try to eat that same food the brain thinks you need twice as much to get the same nutrition as it thought it should have gotten last time.

So not only is the whole "chew and spit" habit a training ground for bulemia, it's also a way to tease your body into thinking it's getting food when it really isn't. Bulemia is a very serious illness and not something you want to play around with.

I know you think this doesn't apply to you or the people here.. But I'm going to assume that all of us got here because of an unhealthy relationship with food and poor eating habits??

First of all' date=' I have not put anything other than liquids in my mouth. I have read a lot on this website that many people do this, put food in their mouth, chew it & spit it out, during the liquid phase. Do I think it is detrimental? No. Would I personally do it? No. I know many, if not not most, people who are months post op indeed do eat a hamburger or pizza. There are far worse things that I feel passionately about and disagree with regarding what people do after having this surgery. If someone puts a piece of ateak in their mouth ONE time during their liquid phase, I do not think they are sabotaging their success or health, as long as they remember to spit it out.[/quote']

You seem to think I'm talking only to you and about you... I'm not.

If you look at this thread alone, several people have mentioned chewing and spitting.

And by the way, I am in now way perfect. I got here because if my own issues regarding food.

So please don't take it so personal.

Again, Laura-ven... I believe you are really overreacting to this. But, ever since being on this website I have noticed that is very common. Funny to.me how people who let themselves become so obese that they have to have a surgical procedure to correct it are now nutrition police and know it alls. At the end of the day, people who have this surgery screw up in one way or another at some point. I guess it is not such a big deal when they do it, but when someone else does it is made to be such a huge deal. Anyway, if someone wants to chew on something while on the liquid phase, have at it. It isnt going to kill you & it isnt going to make you lose less weight. I see people on here that chew gum, but I was told that is one of the most dangerous things you could do, if swallowed. I could care less what any of you do, honestly.

You seem to think I'm talking only to you and about you... I'm not.

If you look at this thread alone' date=' several people have mentioned chewing and spitting.

And by the way, I am in now way perfect. I got here because if my own issues regarding food.

So please don't take it so personal.[/quote']

Once again...

Once again...

LOL Totally not taking this personally. I have actually followed my doctor's instructions to a T. That doesnt mean that I think people are wrong when they don't. I am replying to YOUR post that I happen to disagree with. Isnt that what this website it about? You post your opinion, I post mine. Sorry if YOU are getting offended by me not agreeing with you.

Now back to the original topic... I would love a piece of pizza. I just might go take a bite & spit it out! haha

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