I am not friends with anyone on this board. I dont know you all and really have no desire to. I came here for support during a transition in my life. I just have a couple of things I would like to say.

People who hide behind the Lord to chastise other people or use the Lord to make others feel guilty should be ashamed of themselves. HOW DARE YOU drag the Almighty God into this kind of bickering. Do you keep God on the same level as yourselves?? Keep Him on a leash and turn Him loose whenever it makes you look good?? I can't stand when pious people throw this "I will pray for you crap" around to make them seem holier than thou.. Just as bad are the people who use your christianity to slap you in the face. "I thought you were a Christian"... As if that is something they just came up with and haven't used that line time and time again to attack people. Christians are sinners, people. Jesus is the attonement for our sins. Paul, David and Moses were all murderers for God's sake and the Lord used each of these men in mighty ways. They each wrote major portions of the Bible. God created us to worship Him not to use Him for our own foolish gain. Come ONNNN!!!!! Enough if enough. Dont you all have friends in "real life"?? If your so unhappy online then step away from the keyboard... Shut the dang thing off... move on with your lives.. find another message board where everyone is perfect.. Or do SOMETHING!!!! But leave God out of your petty, childish bickering. If your not a Christian then be a decent human being and leave Him out anyway... He is very important to some people.

My Advice to all the angry people: Get a grip and move on past it.

Kathy

Well said Bettina. :clap2:

I bet I sleep better tonight than last--I'm gonna dream about cheese!

3Gloves-

Yes, I am a cheese psychopath actually LOL!!!! (while I was on liquids a whole freakin week ago I had used Campbells cheese soup to satisfy my sick depraved urges for cheese no matter the form) Just please don't start dancing again! But I digress...

Campbell's Chesse Soup huh? I will be getting some of that tomorrow. I crave cheese too. Never tried the soup yet, but I bet it's yummy. :hungry:

Thanks for the heads-up. If I really like it, I might have to dance you know. You've been warned.

I'm just curious how you know that? Or is it just a saying that you heard someone else say once? I mean, how many non-believers in their dying hour have you been around? Just curious. I love this thread. I value EVERYONE'S opinon. This just made me curious.

Actually, I read a while back that the "no atheist in a foxhole" thing is far from the truth. (I wish I could remember the source.) It seems that a number of people have died while their voices were being recorded...plane crashes, police/fire radios, that kind of thing. Turned out that the religious folks were saying "Oh, God" and the non-religious folks were saying stuff like, "Oh, shit!"

Whatever it was I read said that most of us die pretty much the way we live.

I do want to mention that an intense multi-page thread where the atheists come out of hiding and DON'T get reminded, by some self-appointed messenger of doom, that they're going to burn in a hot place that no one has ever seen and the atheists don't believe in is kind of a nice change. Growth is a good thing.

God is everywhere!!! On money, On t.v., radio, ECT.... Get used to it!!!! and get over it.....

Which god are you talking about here, and in which part of the world???

Turned out that the religious folks were saying "Oh, God" and the non-religious folks were saying stuff like, "Oh, shit!"

Whatever it was I read said that most of us die pretty much the way we live.

:pound:

HYSTERICAL!

I'm starting a new religion.

I am Cathnostic.

That means I was raised Catholic, but don't really go anymore. I believe in God, but not church, and I DO question the bible, but understand it's intent!

I'd invite you to our services, but we don't have any. You're welcome to join though!

I am also starting my own political party..

Democricans or republicrats, I haven't decided on which one to use.

Our slogan is that we are Conservo-liberal!

Let's lighten up... been too serious here lately. This place should be fun!

ha ha ...just throwing another wrench in here...........

no one mentioned gods and goddesses.

Actually, I read a while back that the "no atheist in a foxhole" thing is far from the truth. (I wish I could remember the source.) It seems that a number of people have died while their voices were being recorded...plane crashes, police/fire radios, that kind of thing. Turned out that the religious folks were saying "Oh, God" and the non-religious folks were saying stuff like, "Oh, shit!"

I would probably be saying both!!!!!

To Believe or not to believe that is the question???

People say "oh god" all the time. It has become, for many, just another phrase with no more significance than "oh my" or "wow" -- a meaningless custom. When someone sneezes I don't say, "May humanity bring benefits to you" -- I say "bless you". Am I really blessing them? Not any more than I'm really trying to keep an evil entity from taking over their bodies, or expressing joy that their heart started again, or any of the other reasons quoted for why we say that. I say it because that's what you say when someone sneezes. When I sneeze and someone says, "Bless you" I don't get offended because words only have the meaning you allow them to have. You can make a point of being an atheist, like many feminists make a point of it, or you can just "be", and you happen to be an atheist too.

Actually, I read a while back that the "no atheist in a foxhole" thing is far from the truth. (I wish I could remember the source.) It seems that a number of people have died while their voices were being recorded...plane crashes, police/fire radios, that kind of thing. Turned out that the religious folks were saying "Oh, God" and the non-religious folks were saying stuff like, "Oh, shit!"

Whatever it was I read said that most of us die pretty much the way we live.

I do want to mention that an intense multi-page thread where the atheists come out of hiding and DON'T get reminded, by some self-appointed messenger of doom, that they're going to burn in a hot place that no one has ever seen and the atheists don't believe in is kind of a nice change. Growth is a good thing.

Is this what you were looking for??

People say "oh god" all the time. It has become, for many, just another phrase with no more significance than "oh my" or "wow" -- a meaningless custom. When someone sneezes I don't say, "May humanity bring benefits to you" -- I say "bless you". Am I really blessing them? Not any more than I'm really trying to keep an evil entity from taking over their bodies, or expressing joy that their heart started again, or any of the other reasons quoted for why we say that. I say it because that's what you say when someone sneezes. When I sneeze and someone says, "Bless you" I don't get offended because words only have the meaning you allow them to have. You can make a point of being an atheist, like many feminists make a point of it, or you can just "be", and you happen to be an atheist too.

So I am going to interject what I consider to be a moderately funny anecdote.

My work is filled with odd characters. The two that feautre in this anecdote are exceptionally devoted to their beliefs. One is an atheist (or possibly even a satanist) and the other is a Jew.

The atheist sneezed and the Jew said "bless you". A heated comment was fired back by the atheist of "Who the hell are YOU to bless me??". Somewhat taken aback, the Jew stated "Next time I'll curse you, is that better?". At this point they went their seperate ways.

The upshot of course is now, in the event of a sneeze, it is common practice to say "I non-denominationally acknowledge your sneeze". The response is then given of "I feel so blessed.".

This is a true story, and even though the atheist has moved on, his legacy remains.

I totally agree with Wheetsin of course, the basis behind "My God!", "Jesus!" and "Bless You!" have long been absorbed into culture that devalues the spiritual aspects of the words. Now they are no more than saying "drat", "oh dear" etc.

I think that is a shame, but I also think it inevitable.

Friends?

I don't want any friends here either and yes, I expect support.

Friends?

What are friends?

Are friends people that you must support when they get into a cat-fight over religion and/or politics?

Are friends people that PM you with gossip about other members?

Are friends people that PM you with instructions on how to get back at other members?

No thanks. I don't want friends.

But, I will give support to any member who has a Lap-Band problem. I would hope that when I have a Lap-Band problem that people of all political and religious persuasions will try to help me. WHY???

Because it is the Christian thing to do.

Because it is the humane thing to do.

Because it the right thing to do.

I will not sink low enough to leave a member in time of need just because we just had a fight over US foreign policy or abortion or Muslim/Christian pro's and con's.

To do so would violate the "Golden Rule". To decide who to help would mean that I am judging them in order to catagorize them into people who deserve help versus people who don't deserve help. Judge not, lest you shall be judged.

I do want to mention that an intense multi-page thread where the atheists come out of hiding and DON'T get reminded, by some self-appointed messenger of doom, that they're going to burn in a hot place that no one has ever seen and the atheists don't believe in is kind of a nice change. Growth is a good thing.

You know Sue.. I have to agree with you there. My original post was about "Christians behaving badly" for lack of a better description. I am a Christian, and part of what we are taught is to help hold accountable our fellow Christians. That is what I was doing, in an admittedly angry way. The anger was uncalled for but the accountability check was not.

One thing I WAS impressed with were the responses from the agnostics and athiests. There were only 2 that were derogatory toward my belief systems. That to me is amazing. And as you pointed out I didnt see any Christians bashing the nonbelievers either.

I am first and foremost a Christian, but I am also a proud American. One thing I value VERY highly is our freedom. Especially in light of the war and fighting throughout the world. You really get an education on how others live and are treated. I have the right and the freedom to stand in the middle of the street and yell at the top of my lungs that I love the Lord. And others have the right to yell that God is all a hoax. In other countries you could be killed for that.

God Bless America I say!! Others may just say Bless America.. That is our right. And I for one am thankful to God for it.

Kathy