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Struggling with the Preop diet
laurashelby replied to evanter's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
courtneypaigecross....UnJury has a protein shake that's flavored like chicken broth that you add hot water to. -
I had RNY gastric bypass surgery 4 years ago. Eating lettuce became acceptable after week 9 according to my surgeons directions. But go easy on the salad dressing - go with dressings that have minimal fat and sugar. Chewing is a natural craving and your desire for salad may be related to that craving. Some people experience problems in meeting their daily protein, vitamin and fluid requirements. But it sounds like in your case these problems are extreme and there may be an underlying medical condition that needs to be treated as well. According to the internet: Nausea and vomiting are the most common complaints after bariatric surgery, and they are typically associated with inappropriate diet and noncompliance with a gastroplasty diet (ie, eat undisturbed, chew meticulously, never drink with meals, and wait 2 hours before drinking after solid food is consumed). If these symptoms are associated with epigastric pain, significant dehydration, or not explained by dietary indiscretions, an alternative diagnosis must be explored. One of the most common complications causing nausea and vomiting in gastric bypass patients is anastomotic ulcers, with and without stomal stenosis. Ulceration or stenosis at the gastrojejunostomy of the gastric bypass has a reported incidence of 3% to 20%. Although no unifying explanation for the etiology of anastomotic ulcers exists, most experts agree that the pathogenesis is likely multifactorial. These ulcers are thought to be due to a combination of preserved acid secretion in the pouch, tension from the Roux limb, ischemia from the operation, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) use, and perhaps Helicobacter pylori infection. Evidence suggests that little acid is secreted in the gastric bypass pouch; however, staple line dehiscence may lead to excessive acid bathing of the anastomosis. Treatment for both marginal ulcers and stomal ulcers should include avoidance of NSAIDs, antisecretory therapy with proton-pump inhibitors, and/or sucralfate. In addition, H pylori infection should be identified and treated, if present. So condensing this down general advice (coordinating with your surgical staff) might be to avoid NSAIDs (such as aspirin), use proton pump inhibitors (such as Prilosec) and have yourself tested for Helicobacter pylori infection.
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Hey Cynthia. I had RNY on 01/20. So im about to be 3 months and i still havent had salad yet. But i already had my NUT permission to do it. So im gonna try it this week. He said one cup of salad with low fat dressing and protein. I had trouble getting everything in the first month. But everything got much better on the 2nd month. So hang in there
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SURGERY SUPPORT GROUP NEGATIVITY: How to deal
TheMoxieMama posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
SURGERY SUPPORT GROUP NEGATIVITY: How to deal? My surgeon's practice has a FB support group for pre and post op WLS patients, including his practice partner's patients. I joined as soon as I had my first appointment and three months post-op I'm still a member. I met many other members face-to-face during our pre-op classes; we had 6 total modules, including one online right after COVID happened. People did not talk much in person, but the FB group has always been active. At first reading the support group posts every day was nothing but positive. I posted a question or shared sources for vitamins or protein products, as did many others. A few people who were several months to a year or more post-op regularly posted encouraging and uplifting posts. The group is moderated by nurses and other practice staff people. The other surgeon posts and comments on our posts now and then. All was well, until it wasn't. Slowly negative posts and comments seeped in. A regular round robin of complaints, misery, fear, and misinformation became established. A negative post or comment would lead to other negative posts/comments. A staff member warned about posting misinformation , specifically about others "diagnosing" each others' medical issues or food questions. Some of that tapered off, but the general complaining and misery kept up at a regular pace. I must add that right after COVID began many of us, myself included had our surgeries postponed. Pre-COVID my surgery was earmarked for April 2020; I wound up getting sleeved on October 2020. For my own sanity, I chose to keep my head down and keep grinding, as did many others. Also, around this time our surgery practice lost some of their support staff; suddenly calls were not being returned or even answered; lab tests were not always called in before we showed up for blood draws. Real problems to be sure. Many people in the support group chose to put the staff/practice on blast in the group posts/chat. This continued even after we were told by the moderators 1) the reason for the problems 2) possible solutions 3) the best way to get answers (email your Patient Navigator or one of the Group Moderators directly. After a brief respite, the Negativity Ship sailed once more, this time with an emphasis on bodily functions and over-the-top complaints about a certain staff member. I noticed that several of the most positive members who were enjoying great success, as well as the usual ups/downs, were suddenly missing in action. And I found myself less willing to visit the page. I missed the old pleasant and mutually supportive atmosphere. A couple days ago after outright personal attacks on a staff member, the group admin took down posts/comments and posted a long memo about the situation in particular, the negativity in general, and why handling complaints publicly in such a manner was damaging to everyone involved. They also mapped out the direct ways to get questions/problems answered. I thought maybe this whole scenario was peculiar to our little (well, not so little as there are over 1000 of us) support group. But then I saw it happening in a second , national WLS group. When a dear friend called me in a panic over outright lies being shared about the consequences of gastric sleeves, I was convinced this is a more wide-spread problem. My questions: Have you experienced WLS support group negativity or toxicity? How did it impact you? How did you deal with it? Did you leave the group, participate less, or find some other options for support? Thanks for reading this small booklet!!! -
Healthy snack ideas for your hungry stomach. For many of us, snack time is when we lose control of our diets, either by overeating, or by indulging in high-fat, high-calorie foods. This often happens because we allow ourselves to get too hungry and then are unable to stop ourselves from overeating, says Dee Sandquist, spokesperson for the American Dietetic Association and manager of the Nutrition and Diabetes Center at Southwest Washington Medical Center in Vancouver, Washington. To avoid getting too hungry, Sandquist says she recommends always carrying a healthy, portable snack with you when you know you'll be out on the run without easy access to healthy food choices. Try getting at least two food groups in each of those Snacks so that you're getting a combination of carbohydrates and fat/protein, which will help keep you satiated longer, she adds. Here, some super snack food ideas: Plain Yogurt with Blueberries - Pair plain yogurt with blueberries for a sweet treat that has a similar texture to ice cream. Yogurt is a great source of Calcium and Protein, and blueberries are packed with valuable antioxidants that help fight off heart disease. If fresh blueberries aren't in season, try frozen instead they work great in cool, creamy yogurt. Or if you get bored with blueberries, substitute any other frozen fruit like cranberries or cherries. Recommended Serving Size: Plain, low-fat yogurt, 1/2 cup, 56 calories Blueberries, 2/3 cup, 30 calories banana with Almond Butter - This combination will keep you satiated for a longer time than either on their own because of the combination of Fiber in the banana and protein and fat in the almond butter. Bananas are also an excellent source of potassium, which helps prevent muscle cramps and is essential for normal brain function. Of course, Peanut Butter would be a great substitute for almond butter. Recommended Serving Size: Medium banana, 95 calories Almond butter, 1 tablespoon, 101 calories Hummus with Pita Bread - Made from chickpeas, hummus provides protein, fiber, and carbohydrates. Spread hummus on pita bread for some added carbohydrates. Also try putting some veggies on your bread to make a great sandwich. Recommended Serving Size: Hummus, 2 tablespoons, 83 calories Pita bread, 1 round, 195 calories Apple with Brie cheese - Stick to a small amount of cheese with this snack because of brie's high saturated fat content. However, brie does offer a good protein source. Apples have a low glycemic index, which means they keep hunger at bay longer than other fruits. Recommended Serving Size: Apple, 47 calories Brie cheese, 2 ounces, 160 calories Salsa w/ Baked Tortilla chips - Ingredients in salsa vary greatly, but most tomato-based vegetable salsas are an excellent source of antioxidants, Vitamin C, and lycopene, which helps prevent heart disease and some cancers. Avoid high-calorie fried chips by purchasing the baked varieties instead, and be sure to look for varieties that list zero trans fats on their nutrition labels. Recommended Serving Size: Salsa, 2 ounces, 20 calories Baked tortilla chips, 1 ounce, 120 Light Microwave Popcorn - Although this is a single-food snack, Sandquist says she recommends it because of its high fiber and B vitamin content. Plus, who can resist the smell of popcorn? Recommended Serving Size: 1 cup, 30 calories
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What is Protein Water? I've never heard of it Sent from my SM-N920V using the BariatricPal App
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Cannot eat certain foods after 2 years!?
OutsideMatchInside replied to Beedee90's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Everything you listed not being able to eat is not essential. You didn't say anything about Proteins at all. I am guessing you eat a lot of carbs? Also if you take a PPI and an antacid, you should probably be able to eat those foods. Corn however is a starch/grain not a vegetable so I would avoid it or eat it in moderation -
I can't get all my calories and protein just from three meals. So I've figured out that for me the best way is to have a set schedule of snacks. I have my breakfast at home, and before I leave I make a large protein shake that I take to work with me. I'll sip on that throughout the day. At 11;00 I'll have my first snack, at 1:30 I take my lunch, at around 3:30 I have another snack, at 6:30 I have dinner, then I may have one more snack if I need to get in some more protein.
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Single Incision with Dr. Geiss in Long Island
knitorious replied to antonelladg's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi, I see these posts are from a few months ago so I'm curious how everyone is doing, especially the Dr. Geiss patient(s). I have surgery scheduled with Dr. Geiss in 3 weeks and am looking forward to it. I'm hoping I'll be having the single incision-option -- if a shorter torso is the determining factor I'm a 5'2" female so it looks like maybe -- although I suppose like another patient was saying if you didn't want to say what the typical laproscopic scars were from you could say they were from gallbladder surgery... or something Hope everyone is doing well! -
So this may be a dumb question but I am dying for a different flavor other than freaking vanilla or chocolate for protein shakes and was wondering if the whole, no fruit or veggies thing counts if it's all blended up? So if I made a spinach, mango, and peach smoothie with water and zero chunks? And of course with some protein powder thrown in (yay unflavored unjury!). Oh and I'm 7 days post op and on full liquids until Sunday when I get to start purées!! Thanks for the help!
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@blizair09, i was thinking of going back to protein shakes for my breakfast and 15 minute breaks. Its hard because i find myself feeling kind if sick if i go more than 5 hours without food it seems. And that's usually how long it is between meals for me when working. Some days longer. Sent from my SM-G925T using BariatricPal mobile app
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Never heard of Delightful before but it sounds like a great place to get your feet wet. Personally, I never chat with anyone that doesn't have a few pics up. I know most of my single guy and girl friend's feel the same as I do. You're absolutely better off without a pic than a fake or really old pic. I've been divorced for 5+ years now and have been in a few serious relationships with people I've met online or via dating apps. I used to use Match.com or similar websites but over the last few years, I've gravitated towards (free) apps. I personally feel that it's ridiculous to pay for a service that's readily available free of charge. The apps currently in my "dating" folder (in no specific order): Tinder Hinge coffee Meets Bagel Jswipe happn Bumble The roster of apps changes here and there depending on what's "hot" at the moment. The dating pool is quite large here in NYC. Might not be that way where you're located (That might actually be a good thing!) I've used them when I travel and the options aren't as unlimited as they are in NYC. As large as the pool is, I've actually met a few BariatricPal members on these apps! They're like "are you Alex from BariatricPal?!?!" Makes me blush and feel like a minor celebrity for 30 seconds . Coincidently, I'm currently dating someone I was set up with on a blind date
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need to shrink liver.....help
PinePal replied to angelicforever's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I start my pre-op (liver shrinking) diet on monday. 1/2 cup cream of wheat for breakfast, a 1/2 cup yogurt for lunch, and 1/2 cup of creamy Soup for dinner. I also get to have 8 oz of Protein shake and milk over the course of the day. My husband just got banded on Monday and did this 2 weeks of pre-op dieting as well. He lost 10 pounds or so. That is what our surgeon expects. I wish you luck with your liver shrinkage. -
Sweet Spot - when the band is at optimal adjustment, which signals satiety on small amounts of food, and you do not get hungry for at least 4-5 hours. Green Zone - same as sweet spot Sliders - foods that slide through the band without sending the satiety signal. Things like milkshakes, ice cream, candy, frozen yogurt, etc. For some, popcorn is also a slider. The slider food list goes on, but keep in mind that the band does its job best with dense Protein foods.
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Protein Shakes & Smoothies
bambam replied to MrsGonk's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm a little over a year out from my surgery and find I'm usually tight in the morning so this is my "Breakfast smoothie": 3 oz of pineapple juice 3 oz of milk 1 vanilla low-fat yogurt (I use Activia) 1/2 frozen banana 2-3 frozen strawberries (8 blueberries or so if I have them on hand) 1 scoop whey isolate Protein powder - vanilla I just mix it in my blender and it's great. It is about 280 calories and 28 grams of protein. That is pretty much my fruit and dairy for the day. For lunch and dinner I concentrate on getting in the remainder of my protein and try to get a little veggie in. HTH! -
Ok everyone I need some advice. The nurse from the surgeons office called me today and told me I was approved for my Lap Band surgery (which I was super excited about) but then she told me I needed to lose 27lbs before surgery! I know it reduces your rick in the OR is you can lose some weight first but 27lbs seems to be so much. I am kinda discouraged. If I could do this on my own I wouldn't need the surgery. Any advice on a helpful diet? I have already started protein shakes 2 weeks ago and I only drink water. I am so discouraged right now!!:biggrin:
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Protein powders/shakes for LRD and beyond
Deedums posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hey all, I'm having my sleeve done on April 10th and I start my pre-op liver-reduction diet on the 31st (Happy Easter! LOL). I bought some fusion from my clinic, but I'm wondering if there are other alternatives. I mean, I know there are a ton of Protein powders and shakes out there, but at nearly $40 a tub I'm looking for something a little more economical. However, I don't want to sacrifice quality. Post-surgery I know some people who've been drinking the Muscle Milk light shakes, and there are a couple other low-calorie/low-carb shakes out there, too. Just wondering what everyone else has used and if you have any recommendations. Oh, also...I have a blog about my experience. Is it okay to post the link here for others to read? <3 -
realize band vs lap band
Georgia Peachy replied to suchatimeasthis's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Hello, I just had my band surgery Monday, August 11. My doctor is doing both the regular band and the Realize Band. I wish I had taken the time to explore the virtues of each before surgery. The Realize band is not new, it's been done in Sweden for years, but rather new here. I can feel a hard lump in my stomach where I suppose the lapband is, and the Realize band is a softer version. Perhaps this lump will decrease over time, but I wish I had asked more questions prior to surgery. Good for you for thinking of options! -
new to this site and wanting to meet friends for support
Leslie replied to italianlady13's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hello and welcome! I am having my surgery on 7/12. I am very comfortable with the idea of having the sleeve. Although the other procedure was an option, I don't want the procedure to be reversible! I want a lifelong tool. I think if I knew it could be reversed, it would not be as effective for me mentally. Blessings, Leslie -
So many questions?!?
HeatherGurl replied to hchandler2005's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
My surgery is on Monday. I have parent teacher conferences on Thursday. Basically, I will be sitting and talking from 9am to 7 pm. Will this work? Do you think I can do this? It really all depends on you. There is no way I was up to doing something that simple... the anethesia did a number on me. I was out of it for 1 week. Also, is this too soon to go and will the others know? Again, this depends on you. As to others knowing... if anyone questions your eating, tell them you had to have your gall bladder removed or something and you are on a special diet for a few days. Are you starving the first six weeks? I have not been starving since I had my surgery 2 months ago. You will have head hunger and think you need to eat... but do not eat unless your body is telling you that you are hungry. Make sure to get in your protein and you should be fine. I guess I mainly want to know how did you feel and when did you feel "normal" again? I felt normal again maybe at 3 weeks. After the swelling had gone down and I had somewhat learned how to eat properly. Do you think I can reach my goal? I KNOW you can reach your goal, and you will get there even faster if you stay away from junk and sugar. Drink tons of water and just eat healthy period. Do you have to have fills for the rest of your life or does your band eventually receive the ultimate fill? Some Dr.'s give different fills. You will have to find your "sweet spot". My Dr. said that if you start getting hungry sooner and don't lose for 4 weeks, you might need a fill. Do I tell the 5 year old? I personally would not tell the 5 year old, unless you don't care that everyone knows. My sis is 7 and she overheard us talking and I really get nervous that she will slip up and tell my aunts and uncles or even anyone. That is completely up to you though. I just told my sister that I had surgery to help me get skinny!!! :confused: GOOD LUCK AND CONTACT ME IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE!!! -
Have to start my Pre-Op diet 4 months in advance..but not because of surgery!
Heather Meyer posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So i was all happy since January.. I haven't had to worry much about losing weight. I am having surgery in October and so i figured "Eat the foods you wont be eating in awhile...sushi for example..(the kind with rice) or cake or ________(insert food here) So anyway... I saw my Dr. the other day because I have been having lots of nerve pains and they ended up diagnosing me with Fibromyalgia and the Dr. had to run a bunch of blood tests prior to that, to rule out everything else... Well..he did a full blood panel..and for the first time ever in my life..Out of being obese for my whole life...he now tells me that I have high cholesterol and my triglyceride levels are double that of a normal persons...meaning" there's a lot of fat in my blood" ... So... he ordered me to go on a low carb high Protein 2 shake/ lean and green meal... with 1 cup of berries and 2tsp of low fat dressing... And I'm like "RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!" That's the diet i have to do 2 weeks prior to surgery....and now I have to be on that for...4 months!!!!! He is going to re-test me in a month! Yayyyyy NOT! Anyone else have issues and have to go on a diet before their pre-op diet? How am i going to survive????? -
Hello Everyone, I am three weeks post op, and will hopefully will soon be moving to puree food. I feel like I've been doing really well since the surgery in most aspects. However I am still having trouble making sure I get my 3 shakes in a day and most days not getting as much Water as I would like. It seems to take me like an hour to get a shake down, does this get easier? I am worried puree will take even longer for me to get down and I'll fall behind on Protein and nutrients during the day. Also I have a lot more energy during the day, but when I get home from work I seem to crash really hard. Does this get better when I get on real food again? Thanks for any feedback, Scott
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@@Qwalla Did you get any replies to this question? Have you tried Bariatric fusion Protein powder? If so - what flavor is best?
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frustrated with having no control.....
Saraboo replied to Saraboo's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Thanks for all the feedback:redface: As for the being unemployed, while it was my choice to quit-not the smartest choice in the world financially (the job I was at was taking too much of a toll on both my mental and physical health) staying unemployed is not my choice. By the time I quit I was also only getting 12 hours a week. I have been trying to get another job, I have some prospects, but in my area there aren't many places hiring, and a lot of them I am not qualified for. I've started looking in cities up to 2 hours away. I'm willing to relocate for the right job. Food wise, I do try and keep my portions seperate, I prefer boiled chicken over fried-really good with some california chili's, some chicken bullion and a jalapeno-yummm. Anytime I get extra money, I try and get some healthier stuff for me to eat. I've been trying to eat my protein first, and making sure I chew really well. It's killer holding off on the sweets, but I've had my will power strength renewed. And I've started writing everything down again. I was at the start of my journey, but my surgeon had said I didn't need to. He was wrong. It helps to keep me accountable ad I know that I need that. The home life, i really can't do much to change it at this point. My mom would kick her husband out if she could, but financially she can't right now. We have 7 of us in our house. My mom, her husband, 3 of my sisters, me and my grandmother. My grandmother has Alzheimer's, and my mom takes care of her. The only income my mom gets is to pay for my grandmother's care-medical supplies, various other things- She can't care for herself at all. And the 7 of us live in a double wide mobile home. And for some reason we don't qualify for assistance. We've tried but we're apparently in a weird zone where we make too much to qualify for medicare, but we don't make enough to cover other programs. I try to get out of the house whenever I can, due to a bad relationship with my mother's husband. He isn't a very nice person, and he's responisble for a lot of my low self esteem. So, I try to remove myself from the situation whenever possible. Today I went and busted my butt at the gym, and then came home and took my dog for a mile and a half walk. And I have an appt on wed for my third fill hopefully.So I'me going to hope I get a little more restriction from it, and keep going and busting my butt at the gym.( My mom is nice enough to pay for it-she doesn't have much, but she does what she can) And I still have my personal trainer that was a xmas present. Thank God. Beecause he does bust my butt. -
Preventing Hair Loss?
glitter eyes replied to gpmed's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Nothing worked for me. I think it is just the luck of the draw on who is going to have hair loss. My hair started falling out at about six months. I had very thick hair so I was ok with it falling out in handfuls for awhile. My hair is about 1/3 of what I used to have. I do biotin, get all my protein (some days more), take my vitamins, drink my water, all my lab work is great. I have tried coconut oil, emu oil, castor oil, almond oil, various essential oils, liquid silica, massaging my scalp... I am 13 months post op and have been maintaining my weight for the last few months so the huge weight loss isn't a factor anymore. My hair is pitiful, but it is still so worth it to have the weight loss and regain so much energy, health, fitness. It's amazing. I can always get a wig. Next step I think I am going to try Nioxin shampoo. I have some close friends who had WLS and their hair is great.