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For the record I always question religious ideals because so many are not for real just for hire and keep people by fear and fairy tales. Whether it is a mosque or temple or church. I alwaus wonder about people who say Oh they come here to breed and don't speak english and live off our services and take our jobs. Well, who do you think is picking your fruits and veg? who is plucking your chickens making your taco? the reason it is immigrants is because they went there for a job and got one, alot of americans think they cannot or would not do this dirty work and so they do not take those jobs. i recently went to mexico for a surgery yep lap band and my own insurance did not cover it. I did not speak thier language and they did not speak mine but way more of them spoke english and we sure did not know any spanish! this is just plain old arrogance Murpel. I was given very good care and treated with caring kindness. there are experts everywhere and we have had many people come here for all of our history and they usually brings thier skills and a great work ethic, don't listen to propaganda about any one different than you.:biggrin:

I see that you have some concerns about "wealth redistribution" that is such a buzz term and really silly. I happen to also work for Kaiser and have for 13 yrs and love it! We give good care and every one i work with is pretty happy including Dr's. it is not perfect by any stretch but we all do our level best to provide good care. I know alot of people feel differently than I do but the one thing we all have in common is a love of country and other Americans. I would do anything to keep our country safe and living in peace and I just don't beleive the republicans know what they are doing, they are so for the rich and the big business that may give them a great job or something when they leave congress or whatever. The democrats do it too. that is why I went independent. In the end us folks in the middle want to same thing a great place to raise kids and home to live in when old and feeble and healthcare for all. We deserve it and We should really make some hard changes to accomplish these basic care needs. The rich need to have that tax cut ended and our government needs to GET BUSY and get it done.

I am happy to say I will never assume that we must "nuke" other human beings, I have had 3 nephews in these wars and thank god none have died or been mamed, one is still in the service and is a lifer. I have great respect for those who join the service and dedicated thier lives to the service of our wonderful country. But I do not beleive we need to solve all the worlds problems because we cannot. somebody wise said "speak softly and carry a big stick" If we are attacked on out own soil we must fight to the death for our country. Before Israel decided to not share with the Palistinians somewhere to live and trade and exist they should have really thought of the consequences. They were all there and need to be sharing some space to those people. Iran well, I don't necessarily think we need to blast them and the koreans either. We are the ones who started this crap with nukes and atomic bombs and so on, we have to take some blame here for our reckless attitude. I think you all are so mad that President Obama won and just cannot get over it. I wanted health care reform and wish it would have gone further but we will take what we get on our way to a good socialized model. I am talking about basic health care not foolish wasted dollars health care. I am proud of our President's work so far and nothing you all say will sway me. I work for kaiser myself and I think we do a great job for our members. I am also a union member and am proud of that as well. I still say we can have a peace in the world someday and that is my daily prayer for us all. I am not a wacko religious freak either I am a buddhist. I have never collected one dollar of unemployment thankfully for my family but if I needed it I would and I would hope some kind of healthcare would available to my family. Those are social programs I believe in like social security,food stamps, and housing for the very poor and elderly care and help. If we cannot do that in thiscountry with some of those tax dollars what is this all about? keeping the rich rich? BULLSH!!T. I also give to some charities and i know some very wealthy people do as well, they are no worse for the wear. Just how much do some think they need?

I am not saying I think it should be placed there, I do not care where they put it, I only care that it is a real place of worship and promotes peace and support to those who attend. I think all this negative attention works against us. I am one who would attend a buddhist temple if anything.

We have a store here in my town called fred meyer and they sell a kroger brand liquid childrens tylenol. I have to take 4 tsp to get 650mg. it is bubble gum flavored and there are no sugar free types, it tastes so sweet! but that is what I have used,you go thru that little bottle pretty fast too, I only used 2 doses a day and yesterday was my first day of nothing needed! I was banded 10 days ago. So far down 14 lbs, WOW.

Oh yea loserbob and the rest of you more war and more killing is the answer, just go to a place you think just every last person is out to get america and blast them all! I am disgusted that we have not had more women around the world involved in real peace keeping and improving the lives of human beings and we left it up to the men, see what has happened? bigger bombs, of course you can buy one yourself and be a maniac because we left men guarding the damn things! I really just hate your stupid fear mongoring and hoping for more wars and death, ICK!!! I know alot of people at my job and they are from all over the world they all want what we want, to raise our families and see them be happy and productive, not overseas getting killed and mamed.

WOW, loserbob, I cannot believe the vile attitude you have toward a whole huge group of people! I really do not care if or where they build the mosque. those that died at 911 are to be honored every year and thier families will honor them and miss them forever. We can honor them no matter where we are and the place is immaterial that is not holy ground. The last time I was at pearl harbor I was there with many japanese that day side by side. If you think death and loss is one sided you are really in need of some sunday school lessons. Many families from many parts of the world have suffered horrible loss with all these bush/cheney inspired wars. killing and shooting each other is a piss poor way to problem solve and if you were a soldier that is very scarey!:biggrin:

That is Ok BJean I don't like not being a democrat anymore but I guess I am hoping to find a place of honesty in politics, and you go Cleos mom very good work there and all so true. We must all be vigilant and vote and I wish we were heard as loudly as the tea party, maybe some of those heinous signs? Oh no I could never think of a sicker more juvenile way to state your views than racist sick ignorant signs that those folks make and carry.

I should say I used to be a democrat and got sick and tired of them making promises they did not keep, getting control of washington and then not getting it done! I still have almost never voted republican and guess I am just a pissed off democrat but could not even venture to vote republican unless some one like Tom McCall of oregon came back to serve. so that is why i am still an independent,but even that pisses me off because I would like to be a proud democrat again.:biggrin:

Ariscus99, I think I see that you are a conservative pretty clearly and against medical care for all in this country. I have been a nurse for 30 yrs, i have worked in many different specialties and currently am in a large HMO. I have to say I am for socialized medicine hands down. I feel that we could provide everybody basic health care much more affordable than the current system of "just show up at the ER" after things have gone to far. If we paid for yearly preventative physicals, mammography, cholestesterol screenings, BP and pulse checks and get to those who have preventable illness or find problems early. This would save us all money! Also mother baby care and those who are disabled need to have regular health screenings. I think that we just cannot go wrong by doing this. Look at what has happened to youngsters in school when we allowed big business in the set up mcdonalds and taco bell in schools and decided PE was to expensive to keep for the kids? It would have been so much better to have excellent healthful cafeteria's in schools and push for PE and sex education in schools? these poor kids have suffered. Socialized programs that serve the public as a whole are much better than waiting until folks are sick and disabled and then trying to make lame excuses why we cannot help them because oh my it is "socialism". This is America and we can afford to do this once we clean up after the republican mess of the past 25-30 yrs of damage. The gap between rich and poor is just shameful and we all need to remain vigilant until we can get back on track but we don't abandon our own. I am an independent and have been for many years I am conservative about some issues fiscally but really none socially.

Me too, Gabwil, i amd awestruck by how little I need to eat to be full, 1/3 to 1/2 cup,still on week two mine was on aug 17th. I am doing very well healing nicely and I guess i am in the honeymoon phase and so excited to get on with it. I am back to work on Monday the 30th. take care all!

Hi, I had mine 8 days ago, I went to mexico and was in hospital for 2 days. I had no nausea and my pain was well controlled with toradol. I spoke to my anesthesiologist about my fear of post op nausea and he gave me something and it worked well. I have been sore but within 4 days I am using childrens tylenol and it is working fine. Be sure you are nothing by mouth the night before and follow that to the letter, the pre op diet does help to lose a quick 7-10 lbs and that helps make room in there for the surgeon too.Follow the diet progressions after wards and you will do great!

I used to suffer terrible nausea after surgery, back when i had my babies c-section and other stuff, but since then I always tell the anesthesiologist to please help me out and he does I did not have any at all after surgery 8 days ago, I still have not had any since banding. They have some great meds now and can really make the difference. Just follow all the directions and you will do well.

today is my 8th day post op and am on the mushies phase, I have had no trouble with yogurt,but I use homemade and add a teaspoon of strawberry preserves to sweeten it. I do have a bit of trouble with the protein shakes being so heavy in the stomach. I really have to take about 30 min to get anything down I use a baby spoon to be sure I am not going to fast. Very cold water seems to sit right in my throat like a bubble, i do better if it is not to cold. Maybe the whips yogurt has to much air in it?

I was banded 7 days ago and my directions are 1 wk clear liquids,2nd wk full liquids then 3rd wk pureed foods egg and cheese dishes canned fruits, all very soft and chewed well,4th to 6th wks may add ground meats sliced meats and raw fruits and veg. must chew well,I may have 1 protien shake a day as a subsitute for one meal. Drink fluids in between not with meals. Theres mine in a quick way.

Hey Lisa A, just keep chugging along with lowering your calories some and some kind of exercise and you will get there. It took me almost 2 yrs to make this decision and I too am always scared to go under during surgery, it is such a black place to be and no memory except to wake up in pain. Here's something I learned today, I have had two of those unjury protein shakes one today and one yesterday, I had been putting them in the blender with ice and that puts alot of air in them, so frothy and lovely, BUT sure adds air and then I have suffered with gas and some pressure, had to take the gas x and walk, I will not do this anymore, I have a shaker coming in the mail and will just shake to avoid that added air. Those shakes are pretty good for what it is but they make me feel so darn full!

Hey Lisa I was banded in mexico as well and had Dr Corvala at Tijuana I feel it was good care and I did just fine,I was glad to have my husband along he was so helpful to me,waited on me the whole 2 days. I took very little in the way of things for a 2 day trip. left all jewelry off and took a light bathrobe and nighty. I had great pain relief and no nausea, but I spoke to them about this repeatedly knowing myself well. I wore a big lose dress home to fly and that was a good choice I always need a sweater on a plane and some folks really need a travel pillow to buffer the seat belt against the stomach area, also a nice stretch type bra as there is an incision right there in front under that bra line. The incisions are up high not down lower on the abdomen. I am so glad I am now on full liquids and feeling so much more satisfied. I am down 10 lbs from the pre op diet to now,but I have alot of belly swelling still. Gas pains are off and on still but easily handles with walks and gas-x and only liquid tylenol for pain. Incisions are healing fast to.

Hi All, I was banded 8-17-10, also had a hernia repair. i am doing fine so far and today i just had to eat something besides clear liquids, I had 1/3 cream of wheat and 1% milk. Then for lunch i had butternut squash soup about 1/3 cup. it was wonderful! I am now supposed to try getting the added protein drink this week. Is that to be a meal? I love hot food and it satisfies me for much longer mentally than cold stuff. I think I will try it and have bought samples of unjury protein suppliment. I would like to have a mentor and have posted here and there on this site,it is a great help to read them and to have the interaction with others in the same place so to speak.:confused:

I had my surgery 8-17-10 and told my anethesiologist about how easy I get nauseated and to please help with that going in, I have not had any at all and have only been given toradol for pain the whole way thru, now I am using children's liquid tylenol and that is working fine. I also had a hernia repair done. I know for me the narcotics always make me so sick,goody for toradol.:confused:

Thanks for that information very helpful on the anatomical understanding. I am so glad to have that done so I can take one less pill maybe.

I had my lap band on 8-17 and also had a hiatal hernia repair done, I never knew it was there but was told I may not need prilosec anymore. YAY I have had some discomfort in the epigasrtic area and bloat but not terrible. Afriend of mine who is a surgery nurse told me no lifting over 10 lbs or bending over any more than I must for about 4-6 wks.

I am also morbidly obese and it is an ugly terminology, but I got my band on 8-17-10. I went to mexico because my insurance covered only RNY and that was not for me. I could afford it in mexico and did my homework. Dr Corvala did mine and i am doing well, still on my clear liquids and next tuesday I get to go to full liquids GOODY! a change of food choices, and today my entire system is working again. All my plumbing is now in working order. If you are 100lbs overwt they call it morbid. Hang in there and try really heard to take off some wt before your surgery.

You are 5 days earlier than I am octroy. I am doing pretty well and my pain level is now pretty well controlled by tylenol now. I was wondering if you got your here in this country or mexico, I went to mexico. they sent me home with this creme called recoveron-nc I do not really know what it is for and am waiting for a call back about that, the nurses told me soap and water only and dressing changes. I am not hungry either! and am on clear liquids til 24th, that will be one week. of course no wt loss yet but I am hopeful this will work for me. I need to lose 76lb to make my first goal. then i will make another.

Hello All, i am home and was banded on aug 17th, everything went well and I also had a hernia repair. I am sore but no nausea or vomiting and the pain med is toradol i think and it has worked pretty darn well. I have put on 4 lbs though I guess it is swelling maybe or my bodies defenses to hold on for a bumpy rise maybe. I have faith it will start going the other direction though. thank you all for the support your all so lovely.

Later today I go to the motel near the airport to park and fly out in early AM, then in 3 hrs we arrive and the surgery day is here!! I am nervous about post op pain and vomiting. I have read some good stories and some scary stories. I wonder what my story will be. :cursing: