anonemouse

That's definitely laudable. Unfortunately, I think you are either in the minority or the other folks have much louder voices, so to speak.

I did not say the scientific community needs to accept it more. I said: In other words, it will be commonly accepted by the general, non-science public. People have doubted evolution for hundreds of years, ever since the theory was first hypothesized and people have said just that, for years, "that it's peaked and now declining." It wasn't true then, and it's not true now. It's not going away.

To be honest, that doesn't make sense to me. Shouldn't murder be murder, regardless of the reason and regardless of who commits it? In your opinion, what makes a woman who has an abortion (or multiple abortions) less abhorable than a man who robs a bank and kills several people or a serial killer? Why should one get a life sentence and not the other, if there isn't a value judgement happening, concerning the killer/victims?

The band is not a new procedure, though. Yes, it's only been approved for use in the US relatively recently, but it's been used internationally for years. Speaking as an obese woman who used to be an obese teen, I wish this had been available to me. It could have saved me a LOT of grief over the years. Like other people have said, I would recommend that the OP give her daughter several months to show her that she really is serious about wanting to do this. Take her to seminars, nutrition classes, make her watch the surgery online, make her meet people who have had the surgery. Make sure that she knows EXACTLY what she would be getting into. And if she can show you that she does know, and that she's ready and willing to make the lifestyle changes that are necessary, try and make it happen for her.

Apparently, I missed my first nutrition class. I was told that they are held on the 2nd and 4th weeks of the month. To me, that means the 2nd FULL week. But no. Apparently, the two days that ended the last week in May and began June count as the first week. So, my class was this week instead of next week. I called the nutritionist to confirm that the meeting was next week, on the 13th, but found out that the class was this past Wednesday. Luckily, since my surgery is going to be on July 3rd, the nutritionist is going to do a private class with just me, right before the second class that I have to go to. You know, instead of saying that the meetings will be on the second and fourth weeks, they should give DATES. Because, damn it, two days does not make a week!

From what I understand (don't take this as gospel), insurance will pay for procedures if you have complications because they will be considered "medically necessary." For example, if you have erosion or slippage, they would pay for the removal of the band. This is only if they consider it "medically necessary," though. If the surgery just doesn't work for some reason, and you want the band removed, they won't pay for it. But if you do have complications like slippage or erosion or esophageal dilation, they'll pay.

I can't read more than one book at a time. I make up for it, though, by reading quickly. I can usually finish a standard-length novel (250-300 or so pages) in a few hours, if I do nothing else.

Green tea is supposed to have lots of antioxidants in it. I wouldn't give up drinking all of your water in favor of green tea (mainly because it still has caffeine unless you buy decaf), but it IS good for you. And GOOD green tea is very yummy. If you've ever been to a good Japanese restaurant, you can get very good green tea. (You can tell it's the good stuff when it has the powder in the bottom of the cup.)

Okay, here it is. There are several pages before the evolution talk begins, though. http://www.lapbandtalk.com/f80/biblical-case-pro-choice-stem-cell-research-27488/ Ah, brings back memories. It was fun, wasn't it Gadgetlady?

Well, I've been looking for the evolution thread and can't find it. Suffice it to say, there IS a thread somewhere around here that goes through all that we've been talking about and more. It's already been covered.

But I thought that you thought abortion is murder, the taking of an innocent life. Isn't murder abhorable? Since you believe that abortion is murder, what makes it less "abhorable" than any other type of murder? Could it be that you are making a value statement about an aborted fetus, when you say that you "would never, ever "abhor" a woman because she chose to abort?" You know, I continue to find it hilarious when creationists refuse to believe in evolution because "there's not enough evidence." Seriously, it's funny. Why do I think it's so funny? There is far more evidence for evolution than there is for creationism. With creationism, all there is is a book that said God created us and the world. Creationists look at the world around them and say, "Yep, it exists, so the book must be right!" That is NOT evidence of creationism. Yes, I'll admit that there ARE gaps in evolutionary theory. But I DO believe that it will eventually be accepted by more than the scientific community as hard evidence of where we came from. In fact, many of my colleagues refer to evolution as "evolutionary law" instead of "evolutionary theory." So while some of the general public may not accept it yet, the vast majority of science DOES.

Yep, I can't wait. Good luck with your fill! I hope you get restriction!

I haven't, but I have the BEST recipe for lasagna out there. It calls for 4 whole cups of mozzarella and at least a cup of ricotta (maybe more, if you want, but it gets mixed with oregano for some extra flavor) and a handful or two of parmesan. It's YUMMY.

Or how about a nice, nutty parmesan reggiano shaved over some creamy risotto?

Okay, I went and bought my minutes today. I didn't have time to start tanning, though. I got three visits (4 min, 9 min, and 11 or 14 min - can't remember). What's the difference between regular lotion and indoor tanning lotion?

Yep, excited and nervous! I can't wait!

You may not have said it, but you weren't disagreeing with Daffodil, and she definitely said it. To me, that signals that you agreed with her. And unfortunately, we're judged by the company we keep. That goes for all of us, I don't deny that. I've even spoken up on other threads and admitted that members of my side had gone too far. But you haven't, and to me, that says volumes.

Well, now it looks like she might be going back to the slammer. Apparently, the judge that sentenced her specifically ordered no release with electronic monitoring. There's a hearing tomorrow morning to see if the sheriff's department was in contempt of court when they released her to house arrest.

Here's a link to the results of a whole lot of polls on abortion. Most of them have several years of results. Abortion

Yep, it sickens me that folks like you and your hubby can't legally marry, when it's perfectly legal for some of the other folks on this site.

Please see Mark's post above. He says it best, I think. To me, quite frankly, showing disrespect for someone's closely held, intensely examined beliefs is showing disrespect for that person. It shows that you don't believe that other people are honest enough, smart enough, or "good" enough to come to a decision that you intensely disagree with. It shows that you will never recognize that other people HAVE put time and effort into deciding what side to be on. You disrespect it and you disregard it, and yet you expect people to be swayed, even as you flaunt that disrespect. But like Mark said, keep it coming, please. People like you and Daffodil are the biggest enemies to your own side. No one listens to people who blatantly disrespect their beliefs.

What tests do they do right before surgery, to make sure you're okay to have it?

Because it shows that it is less than a waste of time to debate with you. You don't have the same level of respect for us as we have for you. You don't have to LIKE or AGREE with an opinion to RESPECT it. If you respect our opinions, you acknowledge that we have logical (at least to us) reasons for believing the way we do. You may not agree with them or think that they're right, but we deserve to be treated with respect.

Does that heart beat when it is separated from its incubator? If not, then yes. If it does, then no. If a being cannot be separated from another, it is NOT a separate being.

Cool! I never get manicures (they last about 10 minutes before I screw them up), so I should be fine, then.