BethFromVA

You may pick and choose what you retain, but the greedy lenders is the secondary result to the government forcing a "fairness in lending" policy, requiring these lenders to find SOME way to lend to booger eatin' morons who had no business getting a loan. Once they saw the money that could be made -- AND greedy buyers who were not high risk realized they could get twice the home they could afford -- well then Sadie bar the door. Again, too many of you seem to see this as a single group's, a single person's, a single party's problem. There is enough blame to go around. Please, open your eyes for your own sake because stuff like this just shows how little you pay attention to what's going on around you. :thumbup:

I saw elsewhere where an Obama supporter asked why the Ayers thing mattered. We all know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot, it would matter.:thumbup:

Yes, I am angry. I'm angry that fools such as we have in office (from the president all the way down) are able to destroy our country in such short time. I'm angry that anything -- ANYTHING -- the government touches goes to crap, and now they own even MORE of the private sector. I'm angry that they punish good business people for being good at what they do and creating a better mouse trap and rewarding crooks and degenerates over and over and over again. Am I mad as hell? You bet I am. However, you see something great in a man who has served all of 143 DAYS in congress by the time he ran for office. He has done NOTHING except a little community organizing. Guess anybody who has run an HOA can qualify for president now. :thumbup: He is THE most liberal, THE most socialist loon to come down the pike ever. His "spread the wealth" comment is just the beginning. He is all for taking what I make and giving it to some lowlife who chooses to sit on his ass and collect a welfare check while watching Jerry Springer and drinking his 40 ounce. To me, if you CAN work but don't, you don't get a dime. If whichever of these morons gets into office raises even a DIME of my taxes while not addressing the BILLIONS spent on illegal immigrants in my country, they had better be ready for a mutiny. We are bleeding out and yet we still give billions to countries that hate us. Do away with these morons voting in their own pay raises. WE determine if or when they get one, based on them doing the will of the people. You know, those of us they are supposed to represent?? Term limits, toot sweet. Absolute power has proven to corrupt absolutely, and it starts in our elected offices. I swear, even somebody like me with half a lick of sense could do a thousand times better than a hundred of those dolts put together in shaping up this economy. Barack is no better than anybody else. You may see him as the second coming, but I have cashed in on my rose-colored glasses some time ago.

I expect riots either way. If he loses, it'll simply be worse. If he wins, it'll be like the idiots that tear up their towns after winning a soccer game. I have seen less and less unity across the country for decades now. It didn't begin with the Bush election and it won't end with this one.

I understand, reality is hard to swallow. You claim they are not complicit, but I showed you how many voted for the bailout, which costs each taxpayer tens of thousands of dollars. Rather than letting the market correct itself and capitalism to direct what happens, the dems along with the republicans voted to saddle us with even MORE debt. What's worse, I have yet to hear that those responsible for this travesty are being brought before the courts or being required to repay their multi-million dollar bonuses. Has either side pushed for this or made it happen? Unlike you, I blame BOTH sides. This didn't just happen in the last 8 years, as much as you seem convinced that it has. This has been going on for some time. It's a shame a woman of your age can't see this. I thought maybe you were 20-something, but then I saw that was not the issue.

An ignorant illegal from south of the border can get a real-looking birth certificate and other documents. How difficult would it be for the "next messiah?" Forensics have already shown that it is a horrible forgery created from his sister's birth certificate. But of course the news won't run with that because the news are a bunch of left-wing nuts who are constantly doing all they can to sway the vote for the liberal guy.

Democrats are tax and spend. They voted MORE for the bailout than the republicans did: Democrats: 38 yea, 9 nay, 1 did not vote Republicans: 35 yea, 15 nay Independents: 1 yea, 1 nay How you can deny that they are complicit in the horrors this country is facing just baffles the mind.

OH wait... California. I get it. Never mind. :thumbup:

The difference is, I don't have a partisan axe to grind. They all suck.

Because you may have missed it, clusk, here is the roll call for the bailout: The Senate bailout vote - Politico Staff - Politico.com Only nine democrats voted no. The Crypt: Senators who voted No - Politico.com Democrats also voted for the Iraq War, enough to help it pass: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml It is BOTH parties who are helping us sink like a rock. The government in all its wisdom created the housing debacle as well, making lending institutions lend to those who were not qualified. Those same institutions then got greedy and created insurmountable lending terms which ushered in hundreds of thousands of foreclosures. However, the government -- BOTH PARTIES -- forced the issue and created the problem. I don't know why you have been convinced that one party is better than the other. One party wants to take your money. The other, the libs, just want to take it and spend it faster. :thumbup:

Please listen and try to push your partisan ways aside. The dems were right there WITH the republicans to push this sham bailout down our throats. They also voted FOR the war along with the republicans. To CHOOSE to ignore that this problem we're in is EQUALLY SHARED by both sides is foolish and dishonest.

No, it's just that some of us can see the forest through the trees -- or don't vote simply based on race or political party. I'd rather be open minded than so narrow minded, but that's just me. There are none so blind than those who refuse to see. You have been given some solid information -- much of it HIS WORDS and people he has chosen to surround himself with -- and rather than pay attention or even legitimately dispute it somehow, you turn to the personal attacks. Ignorance truly must be bliss.

The people he hangs with and has hung with are not a right-wing conspiracy, those are facts. Put aside the connections some call more tenuous: Franklin Raines: Former Chairman and CEO of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines was an adviser to Obama on mortgage and housing policy. Antonin Tony Rezko: Real-estate developer and broker Rezko has been convicted of wire and mail fraud, money laundering and bribery. Obama is a longtime associate of Rezko, and bought some property from him in 2006. Bill Ayers: Ayers was a member of the radical Weathermen organization in the 1960s and '70s. He and Obama have met on several occasions and were both on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago. What we DO know for sure was that he was a member of a church for 20 years led by a racist, America-hating, vile-spewing "pastor" who Obama said he could no sooner toss him aside than he could a member of his own family. Until it started affecting his run for office that is (if he really DID toss him aside). I don't know about y'all, but I have never EVER heard of a family being a member of a church for 20 years that did not espouse their own beliefs and views. That just doesn't happen. Then we have him with his "spread the wealth" comment. On tape he is caught stating that we need to become a more socialist nation than we already are. And when confronted about it, he defends this stance!! Why would anybody willingly and gladly go to the polls and vote for an America-hating socialist who acts as if this is a good thing? And if you are a white Obama voter, what will he do TO you? See here: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7fi8STNlxM]YouTube - 1995 Obama Bizarre, Race Baiting Interview Found! HE MUST SAVE BLACKS SO HE CAN BE SAVED.[/ame] It's all out there in black and white, even barring the stuff some of y'all consider questionable and straw-grasping by the right. :thumbup:

It's more amazing how many are willing to toss aside the Constitution when it doesn't supply them what they want. :thumbup:

The MSM is so left-wing that they are likely complicit in the coverup.

“Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears. http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/obamas-birth-certificate-forgery-jay-mckinnon-admits-forging-obama-smears-site-israel-insider-story-blogger-admits-hawaii-birth-certificate-forgery-audacity-of-deception/ Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya. Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days. israelinsider: politics: Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original

Squashed by a Clinton appointee. Shocking. :tongue:

Clusk, you can try to point the finger at one group all you want, but that doesn't work anymore either. BOTH groups suck. BOTH are power hungry now. BOTH have caused the financial troubles we are in. You can blame the Bush years all you wish, but maybe you're unaware that the president alone cannot pass ANYthing. We have had a democratically-run congress for four years now. We had mostly dem control for about 40 years until about 15 years ago or so. What happened so great over those 40 years? Did the inner cities become better? NO, they got worse. The dems were right there voting for the war. The dems were right there shoving this $700 billion sham down our throats. The dems were right there letting the Mexicans overrun us like ants at a picnic. And we had a surplus??? We haven't had a surplus in over 100 years! The only way any one group can claim a surplus is to project IF this and IF that AND include our social security monies in that number, which is not even legal -- but the government steals from it all the time. I am more of a Reagan conservative, but that animal doesn't exist anymore. The right has become what the left once was, and the hard-core left have moved SO far left they are socialists bordering on Marxists. Again, if you simply want to sit from "your side" and point at "my side," then you will continue to not see the entire picture. Which is a shame, really. That's why we're IN this friggin' mess!

People are trying too hard to NOT see what is out there. And if you question him or say you won't vote for him, you are labeled a racist. This country is being bullied by people who want to scare others into submission by labeling them bigots and racists. There are few like me who don't care what I am called. PCism is killing us from the inside out. Nobody is listening because we ALL want change. Nobody can deny that. However, people seem to forget that change doesn't guarantee that it is GOOD change. Change can mean taking away your right to bear arms, your right to free speech, your right to earning money through a capitalist society. And that is where we're going. The sad thing is, BOTH parties are taking us that way -- it's just do you want to go on the slow boat or on a high-speed raceboat?

Neither one is a good choice, but NObama is downright horrid. Nothing good will come of having that socialist, terrorist sympathizer in the White House.

Just curious, but what scared you after reading the site? Just the different issues people have experienced?

Oh wow, now you're making ME choke up!! I love your goals as well. I think they're very important to have and be realistic about. The best of luck with your journey, Valley.

Inspiration is good. You knew where I was going! Your pics look great, btw. I bookmarked your blog.

Omg, how could I forget the wedding rings?? The diamonds are so dirty, but I can't take them off without removing half the skin on my knuckle...

OMG, Mindy, I just looked at your ticker! You freakin' ROCK, girl!!! Can I be just a little wee bit envious if I don't mean it in a bitter, green sort of way? :eek: