ELENATION

Good morning, Not that it was extremely important or anything, but I was wondering why a new thread that I posted yesterday afternoon is gone this morning.... I know it was there and I even got an answer, but this morning it was just gone... anybody knows why or how does that happen? Thanks,:cry Elena

LOL, I guess so! good point!

Exactly! Phelps is not a Christian, he can cal himself that or whatever he wants, but he is just not one.... I'm talking about real Christ followers... the ones that are trying to be like Him and that may never be because they are not perfect, but at least they try...

Yes, that's what I was trying to say... I have experienced the same, I've seen many Christians doing good, but I'm aware that some don't, but it's sad that Christianity is judged based on the ones that are doing wrong... I think it's not fair... and also, when someone is trying to improve and become a better person in general, as long as is trying, that's Christ like behavior... one does not have to be perfect.. Thank you! Elena

LOL!!!!!!!! I know it!!!!!!!!! This girl that I work with told me once that all fat girls have pretty faces... I wanted to slap her...but I didn't.... I only said...."I don't think so" ugh! I hate that a lot of people think that just because someone is skinny, automatically you are beautiful, I've seen some not so attractive skinny people... I used to find Rosie pretty years ago, now she seems so mad all the time that in my eyes it wipes the beauty away... it's like she seems bitter and pissed off... but she is definitely not ugly...

Yeah, it does make much, much sense! and I also thought that it was ok to forgive without forgetting... but it seems to me that unless I can forget it, I can't let go of the resentment...which is not forgiving...I think... For some reason I just feel (personally) that the way I forgive is just not right... not completely sincere... But then again, what you said makes sense, the way you feel after a betrayal is sort of learning from your past... I guess I'm rambling too...

How about that all fat girls have pretty faces???? Just look at Rosie O'Donell!!!!! ok, ok.....just kidding.......no flames please! LOL!

I hear your opinion, I haven't had those experiences myself.... so that has to do with the way I feel.... but I hear you...

Hey guys, As some of you probably know from previous posts, I'm Christian, but I admit that I'm far from being a perfect one, gee, I have too many faults to even count...! all I'm doing is trying to be a better person, but believe me, sometimes I fail and I just try again.... actually in my opinion as long as you keep trying to be a decent kind hearted person, that's what counts.. Anywho, I struggle with forgiveness, I have the best intentions to forgive when someone has done wrong to me, and I say to myself, I forgive such person for what she/he did to me, and I'm talking about major hurt, not just some small issue... but deep inside I don't feel as if I'm REALLY forgiving.... I have a hard time forgetting the issue as well, I do pray about it, but still, that feeling doesn't go away easily... I've also heard that we don't truly forgive if we don't forget.... I just wish I could better at this.... Do you guys struggle with this?:omg: Thanks for reading, Later, Elena

Let me re-phrase that.... I don't have ANY sympathy for child molestors!

lol..I agree, that doesn't count... YOu know, about a year ago, this guy moved right accross our townhouse and his next door neighbor discovered that he was a registered sex offended, he pulled the record on the guy and he had molested a child under the age of 13....freaking disturbing.... his next door neighbor who had a little girl, I have two, and even if you don't have kids, it's creepy having to live next to a child molestor... anyway, the neighbor passed flyers to all the neighbors urging to call the association and complaint and many did including me....and they were able to evict him... I wasn't loving that neighbor for sure.... and I don't really have much sympathy for child molestors at all, I know he probably did his time for what he did, since he is out now, but I just can't bring myself to love that type of neighbor....so there I go breaking the Christian laws I suppose.... lol! I mean, in a case like this, what are we supposed to do? you know, it's tough...

LOL! unfortunately I don't have any hot neighbors....

I'm sure some don't like you said..., in most religions we are supposed to love our neighbors, but I'm sure that in all of them there are exceptions of course, I just would hate to single Christianity out....I think it happens within every religion, and how often, I think we really don't know... we may have an idea or opinion.... I'm glad we agree on the rest though... because I tell you, there is nothing that turns my stomach more than to see some people proclaiming to be religious and doing wrong all over the place and hurting others and some even killing in the name of their religion or god... it is disturbing...

This is how I feel about your post... How do we know if "many" who follow Christianity don't follow the laws of Christ? we are really not inside people's hearts, so that would be heart to determine, even though I agree that I'm sure there are people from every religion that don't follow the rules... I, as a Christian, following the rules the best I can and far from perfect, because I'm NOT perfect, I DON"T judge anybody and dislike those who judge others, who are we to judge? I try to treat others the way I would like to be treated, I don't intentionally hurt others and if I realize that I did, I would definitely apologize, and I don't try to convince anybody to become religious and I also have Christian friends and from different religions and frankly I have never seen one trying to convert others, so even though you and I may differ about Christianity, obviously agree with the rest. Elena

That was a very difficult situation, I do feel bad for her and the circumstances were hard for her and it wasn't her choice and I do feel compassion for her because whether she did right or wrong, she ultimately suffered and just for that alone I feel compassion... I'm not pro abortion, so it's hard to explain all my feelings about this situation right now, I do understand your point... my friend and yours, just the opposite extremes...sad...

I just copied and posted your post so I can give her the information. Thank you so very much, I should've done this myself long time ago.. I really appreciate it. Elena

I agree, I feel a little uncomfortable talking to her about this because I know she doesn't like to talk about it, but I think she needs to talk about it though... I'm in Illinois, but she is now in Tampa, Florida.. I really hope she does get counseling... I appreciate your help.

I agree, thank you... I have told her as well... I think she is better now that some years ago... but I still think that counseling will be good for her..

Thank you Green, I have told her similar things and I will continue to do so for sure.. I agree with you.

I completely agree with everything you said, and yes, abortion does have consequences...physically and emotionally...

Yes, I agree... regardless of how I feel about what happened to her, I don't blame her mother either, I think she was trying to protect her, I could tell that she loved her, her mom died and I know she loved her mom and I think she forgives her.... but there is something inside her that is not quiet right about the whole thing... you are very right though, thank you.

Thank you, I have told her to attend counseling, but never really gave her a specific place, thank you for the info...she also has problems even talking about it.... I do feel so bad for her though..

Forgot to add, if I was the mom, I still would've given my daughter a choice, even if she was 16 or 17...and I would've welcome that baby with open arms, I wouldn't have liked the fact that she was irresponsible and got pregnant at such an early age, I would've told her off probably, but I still would've supported her in her decision and most definitely I would've given her choices...

This one goes to everyone, I just want your opinion... My best friend had two abortions when she was 16 and 17 years old.... she was boy crazy at the time, her dad had passed away, her self esteem was so low and well, she got pregnant, her mom took her the an abortion clinic and made her have two abortions, didn't give her a choice... we never talked about it, she didn't like to talk about it, years later she finally told me that she resented her mom for making that decision for her and not giving her a choice and that she went along with it because she didn't know better and was scared....she does feel guilty about the abortions, I didn't know what to say, finally I told her that she shouldn't feel guilty, she was a minor, she was so young and scared, then she said that her mom wasn't a good mother and should have helped her instead of just pushing her to abort the babies, this was back in the 70's... she never told her mom and her mom passed away, but I know she resents her because of that, I knew her mom as well and she really was a good mom to her and a nice person overall, I really don't know what to tell my friend whenever we talk about this now, how do you feel about it? do you blame my friend, her mom, or both? or no one?

Sad that it is necessary, but a very good idea!!!!!!