lilwosie

You're not asking a stupid question. And it's not TMI. Goddamnit, people depress me sometimes.
First: when did you have surgery? Have you done coke before, and is this typical? Had you had alcohol since your surgery?
Just based on the timing, I'd guess that you've got a stomach bug and that this isn't related to the drug use. Anyone vomiting for three days would feel ache in their stomach. Did you have a flu shot this year? Are you drinking a ton of Gatorade or Pedialyte to make up for the dehydration? If not, your symptoms are just going to feel worse.
Even if this reaction has nothing to do with the coke or booze, you know that introducing a rogue element into a healing system isn't a good idea, obviously, and you'll be more careful in future. Good.
Few things make me bristle with rage. Idiotic responses like this would be one of them. Her question was related to WLS, since she's concerned there's been an interaction between the drugs and the surgery. She's asking for help because she's worried. I am incredibly angry that your response was the first here, as it is worthless.

she is a cockapoo.

My boobs sticking out further than my belly !

I was just jealous of their glory and had to resort to insults to conceal it....

My heart hurts. How dare you make fun of my glorious scrambled eggs. I worked for minutes on those and they tasted just as boring as every other scrambled egg meal I've made.

Not a revision patient but stopped by and answered because this sends up red flags.
Why would this office schedule 5 dissatified patients at the same time to be in the same room discussing the same thing within earshot of new patients?
Sloppy.
Either it's not a fluke they have a lot of issues or they need a significantly better office manager. Either way, never a *good* thing IMHO
I would totally get a second and third opinion, diligently research the surgeon you chose.

At a real life support group meeting, we talked a little about how different doctor's groups offer such WIDELY VARIED advice on nutrition post surgery.
Some programs have folks eating tiny amounts for extended times, no carbs, give strict weight loss goals, have no flexibility on diet choices, run to being extreme.
Some are extremely lenient to the point of passivity. Don't worry about calories. Don't weight yourself, we won't weigh you. Just listen to your body. It's all good.
Most are somewhere in between.
So who's right?
We had three dietitians at our meeting who had worked for different clinics...who had some interesting comments on this.
The gist of their concern......was that some clinics push hard...not for the health of their clients....but because the faster they can make their fat clients skinny....the more business they'll attract.
Yeah...seriously. How sick is that? You get put on a brutally demanding plan that might not be in your best interests....to be a walking bulletin board for your clinic.
The consensus was that the vast majority of clinics are NOT like this...and do a good balanced job with nutrition....but that each of these women had encountered this situation in their careers (or had known someone who had)....where they felt pushed to advise people to push too hard for the sake of the clinic's image.
Your clinic should listen to your concerns, offer flexibility, choice, and sound nutritional practices.
I'm so damned glad I went to a clinic that serves an international clientele. Our nutritionists do a great job with supporting different global eating styles and have awesome educations, attend current conferences, etc. Beats the hell out of a "nutrition consultant" with a stack of printed rules for everyone...regardless of their gender, health issues, etc.

Drives me nuts to read over and over about people who don't think they're doing this process right......unless they're starving (I must have "head hunger" because I'm eating 400 calories a day and that should be enough right? Why am I exhausted and not feeling full?), pushing exercise to the limit, lamenting their lack of restriction, suffering for....well....suffering.
WTF?
Seriously? What gives with this?
You know, I started thinking about this today, and it occurred to me that people talk about over-eating feeling like comfort. A comfort habit. A way to sooth pain, cope with stress, Etc. Food=love, kindness.
Is there a psychological underpinning to this syndrome that Loving yourself=food and obesity and Hating yourself=thinness and heath?
Do we HAVE to suffer? Do we HAVE to hate ourselves to feel like we're doing a 180 from that naughty shameful indulgent eating? Must bad children be punished?
There is an authoritarian ickiness to this that completely weirds me out.....that I see over and over and over on weight loss support boards.
Where does self hatred and self punishment lead?
What happens when the punishment is over?
I can't help but think this is a psychological disaster waiting to happen....that ends in a return to comfort habits and a sense of personal failure.
The all or nothing thinking goes hand in hand. I MUST be 118 pounds at the end, or I have FAILED! I will punish myself to get to that magical number where the world is suddenly right.
Sometimes I feel like fat people are their own worst enemies.
Self love...self compassion...slow and steady modification of behaviors...win the race.
It took years and years for most of us to become morbidly obese. Why on earth do we think we're going to achieve perfect behavior changes in just a few months?
I'm not saying we don't need to work like hell. I'm not saying we don't need to recognize and correct the behaviors that are unhealthy and get us into trouble. But why do we have to be so damned cruel to ourselves? What is the advantage of that?
I'm just having one of those moments today where the extremes bother me. I don't want to be that way anymore. I don't want to be someone who eats with no sense of accountability or balance....but I don't want to be a food nazi, either. I want balance. I want self love. I want sanity and tolerance. I'm ok with imperfection. Have I screwed up? Yep. Dozens of times. OMG, you mean I'm human after all? Who knew? But as long as I stay committed...as long as I keep working on good habits, and wake up every day and try hard....it's enough. And so far, it's working out pretty good:)

My gallbladder is out, and they managed it laparoscopically, against their predictions!
The surgeon (not same as my RNY surgeon) said on my waking “the surgery was relatively simple because you are slender”.
I could have kissed him. With tongue 😁😁😁😁💋

I know I was curious about what I would eat years after my surgery; would I still be eating only tiny bites of Protein? I got careless and gained seven pounds last year, so starting the last week in December I started logging all my food intake. It was interesting--too many high fat/high sugar carbs and "snacks" that were essentially junk food. So I lost eight pounds over the past few months and this is what I eat now. I aim for 1200-1500 calories a day--I hike one day a week in summer and ski in winter, do a little yoga for flexibility, but I'm not terribly active otherwise. I'm post-menopausal, too, so my metabolism has slowed some. The list below is about 900-1000 calories because I like to leave a little wiggle room for Starbucks lattes or food offered at a friend's house.
Breakfast: 12 oz coffee, 3 Tbsp. half & half
Morning snack: 1/2 small apple. If I'm starving I might have some oatmeal too.
Lunch: 4 Triscuits, 1 slice cheese, 2 oz ham, turkey, chicken, or fish, half cup of berries or pineapple or other fresh fruit
Afternoon snack: A roasted red pepper or a cup of mushrooms sautéed in beef boullion or a cup of air-popped popcorn. In cherry season I'll have a cup of cherries.
Dinner: I eat a lot of shrimp. Sometimes I make a stir fry with 4 oz shrimp,1 1/2 cups of Kirkland stir-fry vegetables, and a couple tablespoons of Yoshida sauce. Sometimes I have 3 oz of beef, lamb, or chicken with half a small baked sweet potato and 1/2 cup green Beans. For takeout, I like a small Wendy's chili for dinner, or I get shrimp or fish tacos. When I go out to dinner I order an appetizer as the main course unless I want a doggie bag to eat at home.
I like sweets but cake and bready things seem to ball up in my sleeve, so I sometimes have an ice cream bar or one Lindt chocolate truffle for dessert.
Before bed: I can't sleep if my stomach is growling so I usually have a snack before bed. Maybe a slice of meat, or one or two Triscuits with Peanut Butter.
I pretty much detest plain Water so I drink Crystal Light all day long. I still don't drink with meals other than tiny sips here and there because liquid + food makes my sleeve feel funny. I can get the foamies if I eat too fast, or don't chew well enough, or if the food is just not agreeing with me on that particular day.
This has worked for me for the past seven years until the Snacks turned into potato chips and chocolate chip Cookies. Now that I've gone back to my old ways I feel better. I am hoping this reassures some folks new to surgery that you do go back to eating like a normal person, but your sleeve and your preferences will have a lot to do with how you manage your eating when your weight stabilizes.
I know you can succeed!

This is an easy and tasty low cal, high Protein meal. It's written for an instapot, but it can be adapted for a slow cooker as well
https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/04/pressure-cooker-fast-and-easy-chicken-chile-verde-recipe.html
I made a few changes:
I used Poblano, Hatch & Jalapeno Chilies (left out the Anaheim chilies, based on personal preference)
I used boneless skinless chicken breasts
I added hominy & chicken broth, to make it more like pozole (low carbers, don't add hominy)
I left out the cumin (I wanted to taste the chicken and chilies and find cumin tends to dominate)
It was yummy, easy, and totally healthy, a win, win, win!

My husband and I went for a 3.5 hour car ride in the beautiful country area we live in. It was a great day, long talks and lots of positive thoughts and feelings. We talked about a ton of stuff and he told me he was still scared about my surgery but he now understand a whole lot more and realized I have to do it or I am going to not be around when we are old and gray in our double rocker watching the world go by. ( YES HE GETS IT).

We stopped at a small cafe for a late lunch. He ordered his normal cheeseburger, fries and soda , I ordered a grilled chicken breast with no oils , added spices and asked for a vegetable melody instead of mashed potato’s and gravy. I was told that I could not have any substitutions. Ok so I asked them to just put the veggies and meat on one plate and the mashed potato’s and gravy on a second plate. OMG you would have thought I was holding a gun to a babies head. I was told sorry but that is a substitution can’t do it. OK let’s try this a different way ( I am now getting a little prickly) I ask can you just put it all on one plate and bring me a to go container? I could but your still substituting veggies , WHAT i added them as a side I said . Now she has turned to my husband and said I think you need to help your wife understand we don’t do substitutions here. Chris is so dumb struck by this comment as am I I just looked at her and said cancel the whole order we’re leaving . I went to the rest room to just wash my hands and throw some cold Water on my over heated head , my hubby was still sitting at the table. I walked up to him and he handed me a paper folded in half . It was a order pad slip with a note when you want to be with a real woman give me a call she had signed it and left her number. My husband had written across it 3 times SORRY NO SUBSTATION’S. My wife is 10x times the woman you will ever be . And he signed it Very Happily Married . It made me cry very happy tears of joy.

I love that man so much.

I knew he was behind me every step of the way but that made me realize he isn’t behind me he is right beside me walking at the same speed as I am, and he will always be there with me.