Greensleevie

As time goes on and things continue to heal and relax, you will be able to eat more. Enjoy this time while you can. At over 3 years out, I can now eat the recommended portions for people who have not had bariatric surgery, which means what I put in my mouth counts even more at this point because there's more of it.
Although I'm altered permanently, the effects of the surgery are really short term in the grand scheme of things. It's on us after that.

Another thing I want to add...

A lot of us have a tendency in the beginning to say "I just want to be at a healthy weight" or don't set goals too low for fear we won't reach them. You will find once you get to that first goal you have made for yourself, you'll want to go lower or see how far you can actually go with it. A bit of vanity tends to take over, and once we know we are at a "healthy" weight, we then want to get into that dream size.
It's a strange phenomenon I've noticed after many years of being active in the WLS community. Oh, and I did it, too

Hello all, Queen of Crop here....almost 8 years out and have a 18 lb weight gain. Haven't been on the site in quite some time but am freaking out about the gain. And yes, it is carbs and sugar and wine and a complicated life. I never thought I would gain it back...I guess we all thought that. Will read the head work...and find a program and start logging. Oh how I wish I could go back to that first year....it all seemed so easy (hard in some ways of course) but at least the weight came off. For me 83 lbs. And when I think about it, when I was at my goal weight I was SO HAPPY AND FELT SO FREE. And now I feel like crap. So time to get a grip. Will check in weekly to let you all know how I do. So interesting that the Veterans Forum doesn't have more of us here. Thanks for the encouraging words and good luck to all of us. I wrote a book called Queen of Crop...maybe I should right a Queen of Crop 10 years after to give me a new goal..hmmmmm...BUT NO I WILL NOT GO BACK!

Glad to see you back after five years. You are not alone. Many have experienced regain years out. Several are back on the site for support. Counseling and self help resources are a great place to start to find your willpower. Time to deal with emotional stress eating.
doing the head work link below.


Some things from my weight gain experience to try. (What works for me may not work for you)
Clear out your home of temptation- go shopping for foods on your real food plan Extra carbs and real sugar cause cravings and hunger – Detox off them Satisfy sweet and salty cravings with healthy options: Example -Sweet: dannon light n fit yogurt – Salty: Jerky Hydrate and exercise/activity I’m a sleeve, I have less surgery restriction years out. Eat veggies with all the other item on your plan until full. The bulk and Fiber will help fill the extra space, They keep your calories low and help with hunger. Log your food (myfitnesspal) the key is to stay within your weight loss calories and macros.(protein and carb goals) Start at 1200 calories. You can dial the numbers up or down to see where your body loses weight. People will mention pouch reset. ( Its going back to liquids phase and progressing to real food stage) It does not shrink your pouch. Decide if this is too food restrictive. You can always start real food to reset.
Years out, Find a diet that is sustainable for you long term – Vegan, paleo, intermittent fasting, whole 30, Keto the list goes on. Whatever diet you chose. Log your food and stay within your calories/macros.
People will mention Pouch reset. ( Its going back to liquids phase and progressing to real food stage) It does not shrink your pouch. It may help you feel restriction better. Decide if this is too food restrictive. You can always start real food to reset.
Years out, Find a diet that is sustainable for you long term – Vegan, paleo, intermittent fasting, whole 30, keto the list goes on. Whatever diet you chose. Log your food and stay within your calories/macros

Alright.
Dry your tears and get right back to work 💜
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I wouldn't. In the end it's his story and his decision. It's not your business.

Ironically, complications from obesity related diseases and the possibility of dying from them is much higher statistically than the complications of the surgery itself, which is about 1%.
That being said, it’s completely normal to fear the unknown. I think each and every one of us had the same thoughts and fears. But in the end, you have to weigh the risks vs benefits, and the benefits far outweigh the risks. At least for me it did!
If you keep a positive attitude, strive for change in your lifestyle, manage your expectations and have a grateful heart, you’ll be thrilled you did it .

I’ve always wondered where people got their unrealistic expectations of weight loss after surgery? I’m a life long dieter, and if I’d have lost the amount of weight in the time most people complain about before I had surgery I would have been in disbelief of my success! I mean, sure we all lose relatively quickly at first, but then the losses seem to even out to more average amounts after the initial large losses. Our bodies can only do so much, even with surgery. I also assumed people knew that the more you weigh, the larger the losses. If you’re starting in the low to mid 200’s, you’re not going to lose at the same pace someone starting in the 300’s or 400’s will.

Anyhoo, the expectation thing has always perplexed me.

Yep, my weight loss doesn’t match up to others who did it roughly the same time. I’m older, lower starting weight and have a crappy metabolism. I have absolutely stuck to the plan though and lost over 35 pounds since 1/22. Is it earth shattering? No, but it’s not a race. This journey is for life

I’ve always wondered where people got their unrealistic expectations of weight loss after surgery? I’m a life long dieter, and if I’d have lost the amount of weight in the time most people complain about before I had surgery I would have been in disbelief of my success! I mean, sure we all lose relatively quickly at first, but then the losses seem to even out to more average amounts after the initial large losses. Our bodies can only do so much, even with surgery. I also assumed people knew that the more you weigh, the larger the losses. If you’re starting in the low to mid 200’s, you’re not going to lose at the same pace someone starting in the 300’s or 400’s will.

Anyhoo, the expectation thing has always perplexed me.

There are far too many variables to give you a solid answer. These are the things that determine how fast someone loses:
How much weight they need to lose: The heavier the person, the quicker and larger the losses.
Gender: Men lose much faster and more efficiently than women. Damn them!
Age: The older you are, the slower your metabolism is.
Medical Issues: Does the person have outlying medical issues that require medication that can cause slower losses or are they restricted from regular exercise?
Compliance to the program: Not meaning whether you’re following your new lifestyle absolutely perfectly, but whether you’ve honed in on what ultimately is working perfectly for YOU. If you stall out or aren’t losing as quickly as you feel you should be, don’t be afraid to change things up! Know your macros; how much Protein, calories, carbs, etc do you need to be losing weight consistently. Adjust when needed ( and it will be needed periodically). Some people ditch most carbs, some people keep a certain amount of healthy carbs in their diet. Whatever works for them.

Comparison is the thief of joy. If you understand the reasons why some lose faster and more efficiently than others, you’ll be less apt to beat yourself up about it.

There are far too many variables to give you a solid answer. These are the things that determine how fast someone loses:
How much weight they need to lose: The heavier the person, the quicker and larger the losses.
Gender: Men lose much faster and more efficiently than women. Damn them!
Age: The older you are, the slower your metabolism is.
Medical Issues: Does the person have outlying medical issues that require medication that can cause slower losses or are they restricted from regular exercise?
Compliance to the program: Not meaning whether you’re following your new lifestyle absolutely perfectly, but whether you’ve honed in on what ultimately is working perfectly for YOU. If you stall out or aren’t losing as quickly as you feel you should be, don’t be afraid to change things up! Know your macros; how much Protein, calories, carbs, etc do you need to be losing weight consistently. Adjust when needed ( and it will be needed periodically). Some people ditch most carbs, some people keep a certain amount of healthy carbs in their diet. Whatever works for them.

Comparison is the thief of joy. If you understand the reasons why some lose faster and more efficiently than others, you’ll be less apt to beat yourself up about it.

Good news is you know how to do this and have the tools to do it again. It's easy to fall back into old habits and start to gain again. I did twice in seven years, but both times I caught myself. I felt all the old feelings bubbling up and the unhappiness once again. But I also knew how great I could feel and got back on track. Go back to basics. I agree clean out the bad food and eat your Protein first and veggies. Watch for calories you are drinking too I've seen people drink too many calories. There is nothing stopping you from getting back on track one pound at a time. Beating yourself up more is pointless, changing your diet again is possible. You can do this! You haven't failed, it isn't over.

Unfortunately, no amount of revisions will work if your head isn't in the game. You'll just end up in the same place. Have you thought about the reasons WHY you sabotage yourself to not become successful? Would counseling help? I wouldn't consider a revision to bypass until you feel you're emotionally ready to change your lifestyle to ensure that this surgery is successful. Otherwise, I think a revision to bypass would be a good option for you. The sleeve isn't for everyone, and some people need the additional help the malabsorbtion offers with the bypass.
Also, take anyone's advice who chimes in that hasn't had regain with a grain of salt. They don't understand the struggle of being several years out and trying to get back on track and go back to basics. They all think the weight loss comes as easy as it did during the honeymoon period, and I'm here to say it absolutely doesn't. It's a whole different animal several years out. Our metabolisms, appetites, and capacity changes, making going back much harder. It can be done, but you're talking pre surgery effort at that point.

As someone who is much farther out from surgery than most are here, I can safely say you have absolutely nothing to worry about as far as “being too thin”. I’ve yet to see someone starve to death from weight loss surgery. As a matter of fact, in another couple of years statistically you will probably gain 5-10% of your body weight back.
What I have seen? Dangerous Vitamin deficiencies from not taking your Vitamins and eating the correct amount of Protein. Take those vitamins and make sure you’re getting at least 80 grams of protein, missy! I’m thinking it will make you feel and look so much better if you can get some bloodwork done and get on the correct vitamins. Good luck!

Ironically, complications from obesity related diseases and the possibility of dying from them is much higher statistically than the complications of the surgery itself, which is about 1%.
That being said, it’s completely normal to fear the unknown. I think each and every one of us had the same thoughts and fears. But in the end, you have to weigh the risks vs benefits, and the benefits far outweigh the risks. At least for me it did!
If you keep a positive attitude, strive for change in your lifestyle, manage your expectations and have a grateful heart, you’ll be thrilled you did it .

Ironically, complications from obesity related diseases and the possibility of dying from them is much higher statistically than the complications of the surgery itself, which is about 1%.
That being said, it’s completely normal to fear the unknown. I think each and every one of us had the same thoughts and fears. But in the end, you have to weigh the risks vs benefits, and the benefits far outweigh the risks. At least for me it did!
If you keep a positive attitude, strive for change in your lifestyle, manage your expectations and have a grateful heart, you’ll be thrilled you did it .

Ironically, complications from obesity related diseases and the possibility of dying from them is much higher statistically than the complications of the surgery itself, which is about 1%.
That being said, it’s completely normal to fear the unknown. I think each and every one of us had the same thoughts and fears. But in the end, you have to weigh the risks vs benefits, and the benefits far outweigh the risks. At least for me it did!
If you keep a positive attitude, strive for change in your lifestyle, manage your expectations and have a grateful heart, you’ll be thrilled you did it .

As someone who is much farther out from surgery than most are here, I can safely say you have absolutely nothing to worry about as far as “being too thin”. I’ve yet to see someone starve to death from weight loss surgery. As a matter of fact, in another couple of years statistically you will probably gain 5-10% of your body weight back.
What I have seen? Dangerous Vitamin deficiencies from not taking your Vitamins and eating the correct amount of Protein. Take those vitamins and make sure you’re getting at least 80 grams of protein, missy! I’m thinking it will make you feel and look so much better if you can get some bloodwork done and get on the correct vitamins. Good luck!

Ironically, complications from obesity related diseases and the possibility of dying from them is much higher statistically than the complications of the surgery itself, which is about 1%.
That being said, it’s completely normal to fear the unknown. I think each and every one of us had the same thoughts and fears. But in the end, you have to weigh the risks vs benefits, and the benefits far outweigh the risks. At least for me it did!
If you keep a positive attitude, strive for change in your lifestyle, manage your expectations and have a grateful heart, you’ll be thrilled you did it .

As someone who is much farther out from surgery than most are here, I can safely say you have absolutely nothing to worry about as far as “being too thin”. I’ve yet to see someone starve to death from weight loss surgery. As a matter of fact, in another couple of years statistically you will probably gain 5-10% of your body weight back.
What I have seen? Dangerous Vitamin deficiencies from not taking your Vitamins and eating the correct amount of Protein. Take those vitamins and make sure you’re getting at least 80 grams of protein, missy! I’m thinking it will make you feel and look so much better if you can get some bloodwork done and get on the correct vitamins. Good luck!

Try eating clean for a week.
No/low sugar, no wheat/oat based carbs.
Protein, veggies, maybe a little dairy as in cheese. VERY little. Get at least 90 grams of protein, under 50 carbs, and under 25 of sugar. If you are exercising like you say you are, bump your calories up to 1200.
You say you are tracking but if you knew what to look for, you would see you are eating far too much sugar with the oatmeal and far too many carbs with that melba toast. I'm sure there is more, but that is just one example of things that aren't helping.
I too am 4 years post op, and unfortunately our metabolisms change as time goes by. Gone are the days of easy weight loss with just cutting calories. Weight loss becomes much more complicated, and macros become even more important. Half assing or guessing what macros your ingesting every day won't work. You have to measure where you are to get where you want to be.
Follow my advice for a week. I guarantee you'll lose weight.

Take it from someone with experience, this can become dangerous territory of you let it.
I lost and maintained my weight farily easily by mostly eating clean, non processed food for years. I say mostly because I followed an 80/20 rule. Straight and narrow 80% of the time, other splurges 20% of the time.
Only when I allowed those splurges more often, which happened to include crap like Cheez Its, did I start to gain. It's no coincidence. It's also no coincidence my splurges turned into binges. After all, why would WLS change my disordered eating? If I could moderate to begin with, why did I need surgery at all?
Don't waste your precious tummy real estate on processed crap. Find fresh, more nutritious Snacks (LOVE the parmesan chip idea!) and you pretty much can't go wrong. We didn't get fat eating fruit, nuts, veggies and parmesan chips. Most of us got fat eating stuff like Cheez Its, too much bread, processed sugar and fast food.

IF you are one of the lucky ones who is over *5 years post op who CAN moderate that stuff, good on you! I'm jelly, because I can't 😁.

* I say over 5 years post op because let's be honest, moderating is easier the first few years post op with the good restriction and decreased hunger. Those things are only temporary.

Take it from someone with experience, this can become dangerous territory of you let it.
I lost and maintained my weight farily easily by mostly eating clean, non processed food for years. I say mostly because I followed an 80/20 rule. Straight and narrow 80% of the time, other splurges 20% of the time.
Only when I allowed those splurges more often, which happened to include crap like Cheez Its, did I start to gain. It's no coincidence. It's also no coincidence my splurges turned into binges. After all, why would WLS change my disordered eating? If I could moderate to begin with, why did I need surgery at all?
Don't waste your precious tummy real estate on processed crap. Find fresh, more nutritious Snacks (LOVE the parmesan chip idea!) and you pretty much can't go wrong. We didn't get fat eating fruit, nuts, veggies and parmesan chips. Most of us got fat eating stuff like Cheez Its, too much bread, processed sugar and fast food.

IF you are one of the lucky ones who is over *5 years post op who CAN moderate that stuff, good on you! I'm jelly, because I can't 😁.

* I say over 5 years post op because let's be honest, moderating is easier the first few years post op with the good restriction and decreased hunger. Those things are only temporary.

This is one of the wonderful temporary effects of the surgery that allow us to lose weight. Keeping it 💯, it won't last. Take advantage of this magical time to cement good habits in order to lose all your excess weight and more importantly, keep it off.

Protip: The longer you stay away from sugar and the less you eat of it, the less you will crave it.