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Thank you so much @ChaosUnlimited my post was so much more painful but I tried to edit out the drama, and leave the facts while secretly screaming for help. This revision is all I can think about. It has GOT to work!! Wishing you blessings on your journey too! ???

Dreading pre-opp for Aug 22nd as well. But I have a different plan, 1 week Of 4 optifast meal replacements a day and small protein veggie dinner. Liquids day pre op. Then 3 weeks clear liquids post op... yickes!!!!

@MissPoodle I was just wondering how you did with your weight loss? I have regained Is your primary revision reason too loose regained weight or just fix Stricture?

Thank you @Tanya Busby !

About to do a Sleeve to RNY on Aug 22nd as well. This is for weight regain due to a bad Sleeve surgery 3 years ago. Tests revealed that the Sleeve was made too big and mishapen like an hour glass, which did not set me up for success at all. So I'm being revised to RNY which will also take care of the GERD and they will fix the stricture I have and Haital hernia. Nervous and very cautious about getting excited...I really would like to know the true differences between the two procedures. Will this never ending hunger ever go away? Is it true you loose weight so much slower etc. Would love to hear more about how you all are doing...

Gosh, that actually sounds like a pretty reasonable progression to solids @AtlantaRed Hoping it's just head hunger you have an not actually physical hunger so early in the process.

I realize that most people will probably gloss over this topic...because for most 1 surgery works and is enough and if you fall into this category, please know how fortunate you are. This is not my story I am 5'8. In 2007 I was 273lb's and miserable! I got a Band. Following 13 fills and unfills the best I lost was 60lb's, I never achieved restriction, and unfilled to have 2 kids. All weight returned. In an unrelated accident my port flipped, and in 2015 at 265lb's I was revised to a Gastric Sleeve (Also had my gallbladder taken out, a Haital hernia repaired and the band removed). I lost 60lb's in the first 4 months and then...stopped loosing. At 205lb's I would have been happy with my results, but then, I felt no restriction and started to regain! Fast forward almost 3 years to today...I have developed GERD pretty bad and I've regained most of what I lost back! My stomach feels hungry every hour or two, I could always eat WAY more than my sleeved friends, and once I got myself full, it would not take long for the deep primal hunger to return. I have no relief from hunger. Especially at night, I'm ravenous! I became a grazer! I felt that the Ghrelin was back with an Army to fight me! A 80% international traveling job plus unlimited access to food in the best restaurants around the globe did not help. I have felt dejected, humiliated, like a failure, angry, frustrated and the list goes on for miles, if you are still reading, you probably know how I feel. And indeed, It's not just about how I look...it's about how I feel. Horrible!! My weight is pressing, intrusive and pervasive. There is no time that I am not aware of it. I have sleep Apnea, I can't keep up with my 6 and 7 year old's and the simple things in life are hard again. Completely demoralizing... After almost 3 years, I finally said "Enough" and went back to a new Surgeon. An Endoscopy revealed it has not all been my fault. My Sleeve was cut too big to begin with! My new surgeon reveled he knows the work of the previous surgeon who apparently was not very skilled at the time and making sleeves too big to be successful. A Bougie 42 was was too big to begin with but in my case, even that was very loosely cut. To top it off, my Sleeve was mis-shapen to begin with as well, setting me up for failure and I have a Stricture in the middle, causing me to have an Hourglass shape. Top fills up, stretches, bottom is hungry, then food goes to the bottom and is still there, top is hungry, in short...a hot mess! Miraculously given the Haital Hernia, GERD, Stricture and botched initial surgery, my insurance (that does not cover Bariatrics) has approved a revision to Bypass on Aug 22nd. I've been combing the internet for Sleeve to RNY revision but such information is not as readily available as 1st timers. I am so nervous...so frightened to go through with this. Scared of Anesthesia, scared how I would do, scared of the 3 week post op liquid only phase. Scared that I will fail again, that this will not work. Some Surgeons (like the Pound of Cure guy say you can only expect to loose 10 - 25lbs on a Sleeve to RNY revision, woa?? ) But I have to try...I want to live a full and vibrant life and not just exist like an Amoeba! This is truly Project last chance. My husband is supportive, but my friends, judgmental and not supportive. and if ever I needed some advice, encouragement, support etc...it's now... Nervous but cautiously hopeful, and very much in need of your support... Ellie

Susie, about to do Sleeve to RNY on Aug 22nd. Please update us on your progress. Hugs and best of luck as you recover

Thank you so much for the updated @AtlantaRed and congratulations on your first 6 of what will hopefully be many many more pounds! So excited the surgery is behind both you and @beautifulmess I can't wait to join you both on the other side. I know using the restroom post op helps a lot so glad your functions are returning to their new normal. Wow that is certainly more food than my doc is saying I can have. Only clear liquids for 3 weeks....hmmmm Do you feel like your hunger levels are lower? It's impressive and perplexing you are able to tolerate so much so soon. But impressive in a good was as like I mentioned post sleeve I got dehydrated from not being able to drink. Please do keep us posted. Love and hugs

wow! @beautifulmess so sorry you are having such a rough time! You poor dear! Indeed after the Sleeve, I could barely sip on ANYTHING and wounded up going back into the hospital for dehydration. Oh boy...how is this even possible to have so much so soon. I've been told I need to be on clear liquids for 3 weeks...woa? 3 weeks...oh dear....Do you experience any hunger? Please do keep us updated. Prayers your way that your belly settles down and you regain your strength and good mood and start to see results!

I realize that most people will probably gloss over this topic...because for most 1 surgery works and is enough and if you fall into this category, please know how fortunate you are. This is not my story I am 5'8. In 2007 I was 273lb's and miserable! I got a Band. Following 13 fills and unfills the best I lost was 60lb's, I never achieved restriction, and unfilled to have 2 kids. All weight returned. In an unrelated accident my port flipped, and in 2015 at 265lb's I was revised to a Gastric Sleeve (Also had my gallbladder taken out, a Haital hernia repaired and the band removed). I lost 60lb's in the first 4 months and then...stopped loosing. At 205lb's I would have been happy with my results, but then, I felt no restriction and started to regain! Fast forward almost 3 years to today...I have developed GERD pretty bad and I've regained most of what I lost back! My stomach feels hungry every hour or two, I could always eat WAY more than my sleeved friends, and once I got myself full, it would not take long for the deep primal hunger to return. I have no relief from hunger. Especially at night, I'm ravenous! I became a grazer! I felt that the Ghrelin was back with an Army to fight me! A 80% international traveling job plus unlimited access to food in the best restaurants around the globe did not help. I have felt dejected, humiliated, like a failure, angry, frustrated and the list goes on for miles, if you are still reading, you probably know how I feel. And indeed, It's not just about how I look...it's about how I feel. Horrible!! My weight is pressing, intrusive and pervasive. There is no time that I am not aware of it. I have Sleep Apnea, I can't keep up with my 6 and 7 year old's and the simple things in life are hard again. Completely demoralizing... After almost 3 years, I finally said "Enough" and went back to a new Surgeon. An Endoscopy revealed it has not all been my fault. My Sleeve was cut too big to begin with! My new surgeon reveled he knows the work of the previous surgeon who apparently was not very skilled at the time and making sleeves too big to be successful. A Bougie 42 was was too big to begin with but in my case, even that was very loosely cut. To top it off, my Sleeve was mis-shapen to begin with as well, setting me up for failure and I have a Stricture in the middle, causing me to have an Hourglass shape. Top fills up, stretches, bottom is hungry, then food goes to the bottom and is still there, top is hungry, in short...a hot mess! Miraculously given the Haital Hernia, GERD, Stricture and botched initial surgery, my insurance (that does not cover Bariatrics) has approved a revision to Bypass on Aug 22nd. I've been combing the internet for Sleeve to RNY revision but such information is not as readily available as 1st timers. I am so nervous...so frightened to go through with this. Scared of Anesthesia, scared how I would do, scared of the 3 week post op liquid only phase. Scared that I will fail again, that this will not work. Some Surgeons (like the Pound of Cure guy say you can only expect to loose 10 - 25lbs on a Sleeve to RNY revision, woa?? ) But I have to try...I want to live a full and vibrant life and not just exist like an Amoeba! This is truly Project last chance. My husband is supportive, but my friends, judgmental and not supportive. and if ever I needed some advice, encouragement, support etc...it's now... Nervous but cautiously hopeful, and very much in need of your support... Ellie

Wondering how you ladies are doing with your revision? Scheduled for a Revision Sleeve to RNY on Aug 22nd. Super nervous. I regained the weight I lost form my sleeve. Endoscopy revealed that my sleeve was cut too big and in the wrong shape (hour glass), so I have a Stricture, Haital Hernia, GERD etc. I'm glad I have answers now. That plus regain makes me a prime candidate for revision to RNY. I have so many questions. I've had the Band, Sleeve and now going in again...gosh, even though I know my surgery was not done right, it's so hard not to feel like a failure and worry that the RNY will not work for me. Not much out there on such revisions. And some doctors were saying at most you will loose 10 - 25lbs revising from Sleeve to Bypass. WOA? Anyhow, could really really REALLY use a buddy in the same boat right about now...

Looking for same info as well

I would love to know as well... can’t seem to find a revision forum here...

Update: All, wanted to check in and let you know your kind words of advice and honest scolding has been super helpful! With the exception of seeing a counselor I was able to implement it all. Substituting more real protein for bars, ramping up the workout, bring why I did this back into focus, resetting my sleeve with shakes, cutting out the obvious BS (3 days of tortured carb abstenace to gain back control), watching and limiting the Fruit, small meals, working out in hotel gyms (I never stopped doing that), focusing on protein protein protein, sipping on water all day etc. And I am So happy to report that The results of these efforts have yielded a 7.7lb loss so far from the 10 gained, so I'm 2.3lbs away from lowest point I hit a month ago. A part of me wants to be mad... I should be loosing or at worst maintaining here! Not te-loosing previously lost pounds, but an even bigger part of me is just plain grateful... Grateful for being back on track, grateful to have been given Air in my lungs to have another day on Gods Green Earth, and grateful for you my dear journey mates, most of whom I will never meet, but who so faithfully and caringinly keep watch over each other and me. Thank you so much! I will continue to keep you posted!! My next challenge is daughters birthday party this weekend... There will be custom gourmet cupcakes in so many flavors. What does one do on kids birthday?? How to get through this temptation and potential leftovers (there will be lots of pizza!!), does one not celebrate this event with their children?? and one more thing...more work travel next week, so far all weight loss has been while at home so quite nervous about restarting the travel...

Found the "like" option on the BP app, now there's a little victory!!

Beautiful post!!

Thank you so much for the tips. fellow Owl! On silly IPhone app apparently does not have a "like" option, but I LOVE your response!!! And will go "like" it in the am. Will followup with that book too. And seriously, I feel so honored you reached out at this crazy hour. Blessings, love and weight loss to you @@jintycb!!!!!

Folks, I cringe to read the title of my own post. I think it's every Baratric patients nightmare. The mix of embarrassment, guilt and resentment that I feel is horrid. Especially because my lapband failed and the Sleeve was supposed to work. Now I'm not saying it did not work, I'm saying that I have seriously fallen from grace and need your help and compassion to get back up again I was doing great, working out North of an hour a day and loosing weight steady eddy! At my 4 month appointment my doc could not be prouder, he told me to keep doing what I'm doing and he'll see me in another six months...by month 6 I'd lost a total of 69lbs, and at 204lbs's I was just 1 lb shy of the big 70, and 4 lb's shy of the amazing Onederland that I have not seen in 16 years...life was good. And with my new found confidence, I finally made a move and took my dream job, that is a mix of stay at home and travel, and that was the tipping point... Although the best career move ever, my new regimen of working from home (moving less), but even worse the travel, with the pitfalls of constant restaurant eating, company functions and buffets, I let my guard down! One carb led to another, and the travel accompanied by sedentary tiredness, socializing and pressures of breaking in and fitting into my new job left me with less focus on my bariatric journey and not much will power to dedicate. In a short month (between month 6 and 7) I blinked and even though I maintained workouts (albiet no so intense), on sheer food alone, I gained back 10lbs!!!!!!!! Woa? How could this have happened? Surely it's Water or monthly hormonal gain, but who was I kidding...the weight stuck! In complete panic, I cut out the obvious crap that I know I was doing wrong in the carb department, and cut out the diet sodas that crept back in etc, and have lost 3 of the 10lbs in the last few weeks...but it's slow and painful and I'm so down trodden about it. How could I actually GAIN at a time when I should be in loosing honeymoon? I mean I expected this perhaps a couple years out, but the sheer ferociousness with which the lb's jumped back on is beyond scary! So here's my problem...I've cut out the crap and I'm back to my old workout routine, BUT I'm constantly craving carbs and although I'm eating the right things...I know I'm eating too much of them and in the wrong quantities.., I get full on more than what should fill me...then 30mins latter I'm hungry again, so I pop another Protein bar, or bowl of cherries, or low at mozzarella cheese stick with a wassa cracker, or cup of lowfat yoghurt and fruit., or some nuts..you get the picture, and on some mornings I can do all of the above slowly via grazing. But I just get SOOO hungry. What happened to all the Grelin being gone?? I also eat late at night as it is when the kids go to bed, I hop on my laptop to catchup on work and I like to have a nice hot cup of tea and something to munch on. Pals, Iike I said, I know I have only myself to blame and I feel horrid about it ...I've avoided even coming on Bariatric pal (did not want to move my ticker 6lb's UP, which I just made myself do!!!), I want to hide like an Ostrich and pretend this is not happening, I should be loosing, not regaining and trying to loose what I regained!!! ..but...I need you, and if I'm not accountable and if I don't plug into a source of help, well...I don't even want to think where I'm headed for. So any thoughts, encouragement, similar situations, advise...ANYTHING, would be so much appreciated in this time of disappointment in myself. PS: I called my docs office after re-gaining the first 5lbs...I don't live very close to them. The nurse told me to track all I eat for 3 days and said I'll be fine "you know what to do! You got this!". But then I suddenly had to travel for work events involving TONS of the hardest to resist food, and the 5lb's became 10lbs (3 of which I have spent the last 2 weeks loosing). It's like my stomach can eat so much more now and it's constantly wanting more...I'm quite embarrassed to call my doc's office and tell them I'm further in the hole.

I started before surgery with walking and walked right through surgery! Before surgery I worked up to 10k steps... Then down to about 2-3 k day off surgery and then in under a week back to 6-7k and then 10 and now I'm doing 18-20k steps a day with a little jogging. I cycle and do weights in my excercise room (best investment ever!). I also have a treadmill, weight set station and TV in there to keep me motivated. Who needs a guest room when u can workout daily and use a blowup mattress when needed. Does this answer your question? I'll be happy to share more detail if you like. Feel free to private message me ). Big hugs to you dear

I wanted to share that the only thing that gets me through is this gift from God called Presym PMS!! Available over the counter. No caffeine (I don't tolerate it well), just look up the reviews, beyond awesome. For irritability, bloating, pain etc, I just don't know how I would have made it through both pre symptoms and actual period without it. I go from an irritable hormone stress ball to "okay life is good" in about 20mins. And now that I have my Sleeve, only 1 tablet vrs 2 does the trick! Let me know how it works for u if you try it...: ))

Congratulations on your Sleeve and the weight loss you have had already. I totally empathize on what you went through...it's been rather violent periods since Sleeving! For some reason I thought they would be lighter, but no!

be kind to yourself. Your body has gone through a LOT a huge major change, plus the anesthesia can do a number on you! A warm soothing cup of tea, and sitting still and breathing deeply lamenting on all that you stand to gain (which is everything good minus the pounds), should help set your mind at ease dear. God bless on your journey, you've come this far, and you'll keep on going!

Well, you are 63 years young! Upon seeing my results, my mom was so impressed and I got her a fitbit. At 67 (and retired), she started VERY slowly...and now, she's easily clearing 10k a day without even thinking of it. The idea is to set a small goal, keep it consistently and slowly add as your body leads you. You are too precious not to give your body as much cardio as you can get in. I always think about my car (I don't expect it to last over 10 years), and yet look at all the maintenance I do for it, oil, etc. What more my 1 body I get as a gift from God per lifetime. Every single step you take is worth it! I'm sure when you are well enough, the fighter in you will rise up and say "Oh Heck no! My life is just beginning!!!"

Ladies, I've only had my sleeve a little over 3 months, but I can't help but notice how much more painful and uncomfortable my period is and that the hormones seem to go that much more out of wack causing a very notable increase in the severity and duration of PMS symptoms. My doctors office says fat stores hormones and that loosing weight releases said hormones into the blood causing this. I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing similar and if you had any other insights into this less desirable side effect of the Gastric Sleeve... : \