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Everything posted by Cocoabean
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Please help me settle this once and for all........
Just a word of caution about a tight band. I mean one that is causing trouble. It becomes easier to drink meals because it doesn't hurt. It can also lead to going for slider foods because they go down easier. Then boredom strikes and you think that a milkshake would be mightly tasty and you really need the calories because nothing else is going down. Just something to think about.. It can become a downward spiral.
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Mixed emotions
Jodi--curious, why are you not a bypass candidate? Ok, Heres to the future: Only you can make the decision of which is right for you. The reasons I chose the band for me: I was a "lower" BMI, I started the process at 38. I did not want my "innards" scrambled (the malabsorption and subsequent need for high amounts of supplements were a deterrent for me). I wanted to be able to still eat some sweets. I thought I would still be able to eat "all" foods, unlike bypass where I would have dumping. I have learned now that I cannot eat soft breads and dry meats like chicken breast. The surgery is less invasive and is reversible. I was not diabetic; my surgeon will not do a band on diabetics. He feels that bypass is the best treatment for them. Those were my reasons for my choice, you need to make your own list of pros and cons for each procedure. It can help you to see which is best for you. Best wishes in your decision.
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Who pays for any complications?
Before my insurance started covering bands, they specified they would not cover complications. Also, remember with the one year coverage mentioned, slips and erosions can happen much farther out than that. Although a year is better than nothing. Even now my coverage specifies it will not covere a second WLS. I get one shot at it. They will cover complications, but not a revision to RNY if I wanted it. Not sure if I were to need it because the band eroded or something. That is a fight to be had it if happens. (With a prayer that it does not!) There was a recent thread of a bandster who had a slip at 13 months, that would be a pooper with that one year coverage, eh?
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Mixed emotions
Hi Shari! I had gas pains in my shoulder from the gas they put in the abdomen to pump up the area to see what they are doing. I'd hardly call it severe. Walking really helps. DO listen to that one piece of advice if nothing else. Also, keep pain meds on board. Do not let your pain level go over 3 on the 1-10 scale. My worst time was the first night. I got out of the hospital around 5pm the evening of my surgery. I went to bed and woke in the middle of the night. I could not sit up or roll over. I had to wake my hubby to get me some meds and help me to sit up. After that, all was well. I used all my pain meds because I hate pain and the doc said I could :ohmy: Best wishes for a speedy recovery! Never having had childern, I can't make a comparison for you, but I don't think this would rate very high on that scale! :biggrin:
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getting the band!
Hi George, welcome to the board! If you could be more specific, I'd be happy to answer questions. Do you mean immediately after surgery or longer term? Pain levels, what to eat, follow-up? There is so much you could be asking about. I am two years post-op and am very pleased with my decision. Ask away!
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Sliming
Sometimes there is only slime, sometimes there is gunk (food) with the slime. Sometimes there is slime for a while and then the gunk comes up. I haven't projectiled yet...urgh! It is a rollercoaster, ain't it?
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Chest pain --is that the fullness cue?
For me, pain just below my chest means stuck, not full. It also means STOP EATING. If I stop eating when I feel the pain the food might move down. If I keep eating, I am usually in for trouble, pain, and slime. There is also a difference between full and satisifed. As obese people we often search for full, not finding it. As banded folk, we need to look for satisfied. If I eat until I am full, I am uncomfortable. If I stop when satisfied, I am happy. Big difference. Once you have good restriction, satisfied will hold you for 3 or 4 hours, maybe more. Don't starve yourself until your next fill. Eat healthful choices. Feel satisfied. You are doing great on the weightloss. Keep up the good work!
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Restriction/Fullness
It isn't a matter of being full, it is a matter of being satisfied. It takes practice to get used to that. Don't wait for the band to scream at you that you are full, which it WILL do as you gain restriction. Listen for the whisper of satiety and stop eating then. You will be thankful for it. Eat slowly, pay attention, and listen. Satisfied is comfortable, full hurts. At least for me. Best wishes!
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Sad news
My weight has been stable for a while now, but when I was actively losing I lost less than a pound a week on average. My surgeon told me to expect 1 to 2 lbs per week. So you are averaging 1.5 per week. That is fabulous! If you are not starving, that is even better! You don't say if you have had any fills yet. Maybe you are one of the few who needs very little fill to be sucsessful. I have been overfilled and that is no fun, so don't be in a huge hurry to get fills if you don't need them. Keep up the good work and when the weight loss slows or you are more hungry, then it is time to get a fill. Best wishes on the journey!
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Follow-up visit concerns
My surgeon told me to not be surprised if I gained during the post-op phase. He said it can happen. While the intent is not to eat to our hearts content, we also do not have restriction at this point, so the tool we had installed is not helping us. Willpower is the only thing working for you at this point. If we could live on one egg for breakfast a can of tuna for lunch and then waiting for dinner we would not have needed surgery. If that were all I ate in a day, I'd be starving by dinner time, and I have restriction. Also, what is your doctor's definition of snacking? My doctor does not want me snacking either. But for him that means I am not to brainlessly eat between meals. I can have planned foods between meals that fit into my program. When I heard no snacking, I thought it meant no eating between meals, but not so. I look at the liquid phase as a crash diet. When people go off of crash diets, they often gain weight when returning to "normal" foods. Keep practicing the portion control, but know that we are not perfect. Fills will go a long way to helping you manage the portions! This is a long haul journey. Best wishes.
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Did you name your band?
he he he! I thought about Pancho! Also Paco, but we have two Chihuahuas in the neighborhood named Paco, too confusing! I never thought about naming the port. Will have to ponder that one. I love the Ben & Jerry combo!!
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Sad news
How is your restriction level? 9 lbs is 6 weeks is fantastic! But if you are starving to do it... My surgeon and I always have a discussion about how much I can eat before we agree on a fill. I might want more fill than he is willing to give. But if your physical hunger is under control, or perhaps you are having stuck episodes from time to time, he may be reluctant to fill you at this time. When you lose more you might have less restriction and your rate of loss will slow. He might then be willing to give you a fill. There are many factors that go into getting a fill.
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loose skin
I think a lot of it has to do with your age, genetics, and how much you have to lose. If you have a lot of weight to lose, I seriously doubt supplements or creams (especially over the counter) will do much to help. I am down about 60 lbs. My stomach looks great. No tummy tuck needed. My arms on the other hand! Well, I have always carried extra weight in my upper arms (Thanks, Mom!) They could really use a nip/tuck. But it would be purely cosmetic, and I am unwilling to pay for that, so I won't be wearing tank tops any time soon. Just my thoughts...
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spelling error
Spelling and grammar errors make me crazy. I try to run words I am unsure of through spell check. Then I preview my posts and proof them. Then I post them. When I go back to them to read other responses--THAT is when I find my errors! DRAT! Then I start wondering how many people read it...and think I cannot spell or use proper grammar. Ugh! So, I fix the ones I notice and hope for the best, and try to overlook those of others. If I can't overlook them, then I skip the post. Accdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Olny 55% of plepoe can raed tihs. I can!!!
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Did you name your band?
I sooooo HATE it when I do that!! Part of the reason I started this thread was to see if anyone thought maybe naming their band could lead to over eating or something. By giving an alter ego to an inanimate object. In this instance you have accepted the blame and outcome for the action of not stopping when you feel things not moving. If I blame it on Bandit, might I continue to eat? At this point in the band game, I will not, because I KNOW I cannot eat when I feel it. Just curious and rambling.....
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Feeling my port freaks me out a little...
The ports are achored to abdominal muscles. So how close they are under the skin depends a lot on how much fat we have there. My surgeon gives more cc's in early fills and goes down in amount as we progress. He prefers to sneak up on the sweet spot rather than shooting through it and chasing it. Of course, I ended up overfilled anyway. Which was no fun. But had he put even more fill in, it would have been more painful than it was!
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tell me everything you consumed on your preop diet
Pickles? Why pickles? I'd have eaten every pickle in San Diego County if that were the only solid allowed!
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What if this doesn't work either?
I think your fears are normal. If we hadn't dieted and failed numerous times, we'd not have turned to surgery. Your success on South Beach tells me that the band can help you! It will give you control of the physical hunger allowing you to battle head hunger. For me it has been the tool I needed to gain success at portion control. For the first time, I am able to put a small portion on my plate and not want to go back for seconds. Today, I went out for lunch with my hubby. Before I ordered my meal I had a plan to get a box and take half of it for my lunch at work tomorrow. This is something the band has given me. I knew things like that could happen before I was banded. But I could never follow through with it, because I always wanted more food! As to the Cookies? Well, the band will NOT take away the desire for them. Nope, and they go down easily. That is something you will have to deal with if you get a band. Some people choose gastric bypass for the dumping sydrome that foods like cookies can cause. So they get a negative impact when eating foods like that. For me, I LOVE junk food. But don't keep it around, so I am doing ok with it. I have it as a treat from time to time, but don't have it in my life all the time. Best wishes in your journey!
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Lost a lot weight but belly fat....
There is nothing you can do short of plastic surgery to spot lose. Sad, but true. Crunches and the like will firm up the muscles underneath, but won't do anything for the fat layer above.
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Acid reflux & hard to swallow
Could be a sign of a slip, you should call your doctor to check in.
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Another NSV
Yaahooo!! Gotta love it!! The crossed legs are wonderful!!
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Surgery 1.20.10 and scared!!
A 35 lb loss is great! My question would be, how long would you be able to keep the weight off without surgery? Surely you have dieted before, and lost weight. Are you confident you can lose the remaining weight and keep it off by yourself? My guess is you have lost it only to gain it back. You would not have considered something as drastic as surgery if you had successfully lost weight and maintained that loss! None of your friends have walked in your shoes. Surgery has risks, and only you can weigh those risks. But constant yo-yoing is not good. Don't you deserve to be healthy? Don't you deserve a tool to help you achieve that goal? Best wishes!
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What do you eat?
I am curious what the doctor based the statement on. If JHYLER reports not being able to eat without getting stuck or having pain, or perhaps the doc did a barium swallow, he might say that he won't go any tighter based on medical findings. If it is purely based on the amount of fill in the band, then I'd argue the point as well. I also like the statement that we need a band on our brains. That would go a long way to help me to get the last bit of weight off!
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Did you name your band?
Hi Everyone! I am curious. After two years, I have decided to name my band. His name is Bandit. He is male because he acts as my "Food Police" the way my DH once did. He is Bandit because he sometimes steals my meal from me! My DH and I like it, he can ask how Bandit is doing and no one knows what we are talking about. Sort of like our little code. A bit of silliness. So, did you name yours? Why or why not? I am curious if you think giving a band a name gives credit to something other than yourself for your losses, when it is really YOU to whom the credit belongs. You make the proper food choices. You do the exercise. What do you think?
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Weighing Yourself?
I weigh in every night before bed and in my jammies. This gives me the "oh, these jammies weight 10 lbs and I had too much salt today, so I can subtract 11 lbs" excuse! In actuality though, I just look at the number and say, "oh, ok." Realizing that it can vary so much from day to day. Also, the scale is in the master bath and I get ready for work at 5:30 a.m. so I use the guest bath so as not to wake the retired DH. So I cannot get to the scale in the morning. See how considerate I am? So I do my strip and go naked weigh in on Saturdays. As to tricks? My scale is right next to a towel rack. If I put my hand on that, (for balance, of course) I can take off 30 lbs! That is a wonderful sight!