c0nnie53

I just wrote this in another thread but it seems to fit here too
About your diet. I don't think you need to get extreme and do only liquids or a pouch test...
The fact of the matter you still have the sleeved stomach and you can put it to work again by eating right. This is the hardest part I know, because when I fall off the wagon it's so hard to get back on. But you need to detox from the carbs and just go back the basics dense Protein and veggies
Eat till you are satisfied and keep the carbs at bay. It will be tough for a few days to a week but with determination you can do it!

Curious... Why do you ask people to pm you for this miracle? Why not share it with all?
And why have the sleeve if it works so good?

I had G S on the 02-14-2013 I can eat bread but just not much I will be 60 years old this month I am losing weight so slow I have sugar and high BP so maybe that is why I am losing so slow" I really need help I seem not to have a bowel movement until I take a laxative and them only once or twice a week and that is only with a lax, I seem to stay in a stall one moment down 5 lb. and them up 4lb. I think it has to do with me not being able to go the bathroom that much. will my bowel movement ever get normal again? oh yea I am only down 37lb.

I know exactly what u mean by the carbs slowing weightloss. I eat EVERYTHING just in really small quantities and it's showing on the scale. I made a decision before Thanksgiving that I would maintain until after the holidays then I'll tackle the last 18 lbs I have left
Hubbys planning on going on Atkins Induction again in Jan (he lost 80 lbs with Atkins years ago). While I'm NOT going on Atkins, I will however be cutting back on my sweets, breads, and pastas. And stop the nighttime snacking. I hafta ban all food from my bedroom. Thats where I do all my nighttime snacking - while lying in bed watching tv. I've been known to save 1/2 my daily calories for after dinner so I can snack. That plan backfired!
Good luck to u. Thank God for my sleeve. Everyday I get on the scale I expect it to go up - it doesn't. Wow.

At 3 months out, I started having nausea after eating. And I hadn't had ANY nausea or vomiting at all after my surgery. At my 4 month checkup, I casually mentioned this annoying nausea to my surgeon, who jumped on it. Sent me in for gallbladder tests -- ultrasound first, but no gall stones discovered.
Then he sent me in for a HIDA scan. This measures the functionality of the gallbladder. So evidently my gallbladder was barely functional and full of sludge which is what was causing the nausea. Sludge can turn into gallstones, so it was time for the gallbladder to come out. I had the gallbladder removed last week, so I am now recovering from a second surgery in 6 months. This surgery was not nearly as difficult as the sleeve surgery -- no liquid diet before or after, no overnight in the hospital. No real pain, no problems, just a little tired.
If your nausea continues, say something to your surgeon. And don't settle for an ultrasound. Make sure you have the HIDA scan.

I am also T2, since 2008, and pre-op, I was on 3 different oral meds, and still could not keep my sugars down low enough, ranging between 130-150 and sometimes higher, even tho I pretty much stuck to a low carb diet. When doing the research to make this decision for myself, I learned that the stats for eliminating T2 was 80% chance with sleeve and 90% chance with RNY. But, with RNY comes so many more complications, and you are under anethesia for 4 hours, approximately, where as with the sleeve, as someone else mentioned, you have better absorption of nutrients (important to me) less complications because your intestines are not rerouted, and you are in surgery for anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour, depending on your surgeons skill set. I also learned from my own surgery that my doctor has major skills, as she did not cut into any muscle, but it was explained to me that she goes between the fibers of the muscles and my pain was nearly nonexistent! That was an amazing surprise! Less skilled surgeons will cut thru the muscles and increase your healing time and pain levels greatly.
OK, now let me speak to my personal results as to my T2. When I was released from the hospital, I still was on 2 of my oral meds, but one was dropped. About 3 weeks into recovery, another med was dropped. So, now I am still on one med, 2X per day, and for the past 3 weeks my sugars have been between 80 and 99 every single morning! I feel so much better, I can't tell you, and even if I have to remain on the one med, I am OK with that. But, I am told that as I lose weight, that slowly I can be weaned off the last med. That is so exciting to me! I also must mention that I am a hard core case, as in my situation it is genetic, passed on from generation to generation for several, and so the doctors have said it will be harder in the long run to keep me off meds, but if I am careful with my diet, I should be fine in the long term.
Sometimes I think to myself that perhaps I should have gone the RNY route, but really, the sleeve for me has been so easy, for the most part, and I am only 2 months out. I have been healing pretty well, and tho I do have my issues as so many of us do, I think the diabetic question will resolve itself as I give it more time.
In the end, you will have to make the decision that you feel most comfortable with. Whatever you decide, I wish you the very best in care and health!
Connie

I'm 14 months out and still take prescription meds for anti-sickness daily... too scared to stop taking them and the doc seems to think its fine too...

I am also T2, since 2008, and pre-op, I was on 3 different oral meds, and still could not keep my sugars down low enough, ranging between 130-150 and sometimes higher, even tho I pretty much stuck to a low carb diet. When doing the research to make this decision for myself, I learned that the stats for eliminating T2 was 80% chance with sleeve and 90% chance with RNY. But, with RNY comes so many more complications, and you are under anethesia for 4 hours, approximately, where as with the sleeve, as someone else mentioned, you have better absorption of nutrients (important to me) less complications because your intestines are not rerouted, and you are in surgery for anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour, depending on your surgeons skill set. I also learned from my own surgery that my doctor has major skills, as she did not cut into any muscle, but it was explained to me that she goes between the fibers of the muscles and my pain was nearly nonexistent! That was an amazing surprise! Less skilled surgeons will cut thru the muscles and increase your healing time and pain levels greatly.
OK, now let me speak to my personal results as to my T2. When I was released from the hospital, I still was on 2 of my oral meds, but one was dropped. About 3 weeks into recovery, another med was dropped. So, now I am still on one med, 2X per day, and for the past 3 weeks my sugars have been between 80 and 99 every single morning! I feel so much better, I can't tell you, and even if I have to remain on the one med, I am OK with that. But, I am told that as I lose weight, that slowly I can be weaned off the last med. That is so exciting to me! I also must mention that I am a hard core case, as in my situation it is genetic, passed on from generation to generation for several, and so the doctors have said it will be harder in the long run to keep me off meds, but if I am careful with my diet, I should be fine in the long term.
Sometimes I think to myself that perhaps I should have gone the RNY route, but really, the sleeve for me has been so easy, for the most part, and I am only 2 months out. I have been healing pretty well, and tho I do have my issues as so many of us do, I think the diabetic question will resolve itself as I give it more time.
In the end, you will have to make the decision that you feel most comfortable with. Whatever you decide, I wish you the very best in care and health!
Connie

Laura, I also just wanted to say that it's possible your burnout is from caring too much here. You have been a great supporter of so many newbies and I am grateful. But I also know that in the month I have been active there have already been a number of times I see the "same" questions/justifications/issues raised over and over. You have generally been very patient as these things come up again and again. And it is probably frustrating at best to be earnestly making peace with your past and then hearing different people continually come to the forum and not understand what they're undertaking.
I may be overstepping here, but I do hope if you take a break that you come back quickly. You would be greatly missed.

It will pass. This is all part of the healing process. Around that time in my recovery I was seriously pondering if I had done the right thing getting the surgery because I was so uncomfortable and experiencing horrible reflux. But it slowly gets better until it's no longer a problem at all.
Just hang in there.

Thank you, Laura, for your very swift response! You have given me a glimmer of hope! I so appreciate your taking the time to answer my question! I did a lot of research before I got the sleeve, but going thru the experience is completely different than just reading about it. I have been wrong about so many things so far, but I am trying to learn and get thru the healing part of this journey! I guess that I am still very much in the healing stage, and just need to give myself more time. Thanks for the hope you have extended to me! It means a lot!
Connie

Thank you, Laura, for your very swift response! You have given me a glimmer of hope! I so appreciate your taking the time to answer my question! I did a lot of research before I got the sleeve, but going thru the experience is completely different than just reading about it. I have been wrong about so many things so far, but I am trying to learn and get thru the healing part of this journey! I guess that I am still very much in the healing stage, and just need to give myself more time. Thanks for the hope you have extended to me! It means a lot!
Connie

I think my friends are kinda jealous... Its hard to watch someone loose Wt when they still struggle everyday...if anyone of them try to throw my train off the tracks, they will get runover,lol. Its just food, like air, Water, required for life, eat to live, not live to eat, or even worse, eat to have friends....your friend is loosing control of you and they don't like it.manipulation is an awful thing....

Same here- sleeved on 10/23- getting required fluids/protein but seem to never be full. Though I'm not hungry either. I was just sitting here thinking the same thing- am I going to feel full with regular food? Sounds like it from the other posts so that's a relief!

If you're genuinely stalled - three weeks or more at one weight - yes, hitting the basics is a good option, as is resuming tracking if you stopped for some reason. It's SO easy for people with a history of disordered eating to resume bad habits but slip into denial about their actual intake.
But quite frankly, stalls are just part of the process for almost everyone. And really - almost everyone - I can count on one hand the people I've seen here over four years that never stalled!
So the best thing to do during a stall is...wait it out. Once you know you're eating right and you're not in denial about your intake the very best thing to do is keep pushing forward, putting the scale away for a while if it's defeating you or causing negative feelings. I had two nine week stalls and took a whopping seventeen months to lose 107 pounds. We all lose differently - I saw a post just today where someone lost more than that in nine months!
So if you do find yourself in a stall (and you probably will) make sure you're on the right track and keep doing what you're doing. Minimal fiddling with your diet like increasing or decreasing calories for a week to see if it shakes things up is also a simple but not drastic move to make. I see people that absolutely panic at their first stall and cut things way down to 400 calories a day and practically starve themselves just so they can see the scale move. But that just damages our already screwed up metabolisms! We need consistency - we need to let our bodies adjust to the rapid loss and the big changes and to let it know food is still going to come and that this isn't a famine.
Good luck! Stalls happen. Find my friend coops on here. I think she stalled for more than a year one time, and without changing anything the scale finally started moving again and she's closing in on goal. There's no prize for finishing faster here, so just focus on good, solid habits that you can maintain for life.
~Cheri

I up my calories by taking in more good fats (nuts, avacado, etc). Sounds strange but if I hit a stall, I up my calories and bam, stall broken.

I got my sleeve on Oct 7th and was feeling the same way! I was so surprised that I felt hunger, because I had heard so many say they were never hungry! I felt like I was starving to death! Then, when I was moved into the blended stage, I began to feel like I was being fed! My husband made pots of homemade chicken Soup, with all good veggies in it and lots of chicken. He then put a portion in the blender and pureed it, and it tasted like heaven to me! Also, I finally, finally felt like I was actually eating! Those first weeks are so tough to get thru, at least for me! I was getting depressed because I thought the days would never pass! But, see if you can make some good homemade soup, and blend it till smooth, and have a cup of it! You will start to feel better! Wishing you well on your journey; Connie

I'm just 4 months and 3 weeks out and 60 pounds down since surgery. So, I'm not losing super fast but I am happy with my pace. I am not perfect, never have been and never will be. I do try to keep junk out of my house but sometimes other people bring it in. I have found that it helps me to say that no food is a never food. It is just a last food. I have to have my dense Protein first, then a little fruit or veggie, and then I can have whatever it was that I wanted. This keeps me from eating a lot of the stuff I would otherwise eat because I am just too full or by then the craving is gone. Don't beat yourself up over small slips just don't let it become a habit.

Chin up, Buttercup.
You've identified a problem - you're working on accountability. I admire you for putting your struggle out there.
Keep working hard and love yourself. How would you treat a good friend that did the same thing - you would probably offer words of encouragement, not beat them up. Treat yourself that same way.
Sending positive vibes and ((hugs)) your way today.

Not only would I do it again, I would do it every year for the rest of my life if I had to.
Recovery from surgery was not bad, just some abdominal pain and fatigue. I've not had any nausea or vomiting or even Constipation. I've lost a good amount of weight (I'm four months out) and have discovered that someone who loves to exercise and strength train was buried inside me. I'm not spending every evening gorging on Cookies and chips and then hating myself for it. My life is getting more and more normal all the time and as a result I'm feeling much more positive and confident. As far as I am concerned, for me there has been no bad or ugly. I love my sleeve.

This thread is hilarious. I am not sleeved yet so its good to know that cheating may happen and not to beat myself up too much. Today was hard. I am on the pre-op diet and only eating 2-3 Protein Shakes and one salad/protein meal and all I have been thinking about is food! Stupid lady at work is planning the food for some work function they are catering and she was literally on the phone with some food place for 30 min talking about all the food-REALLY loud too. It was driving me crazy!!! I made it though, Whew!!

Honestly, after reading all of this I don't feel bad or guilty or dirty anymore. The fear is that one "mess-up" will lead to more and more, and it is important to stay on top of emotionally unhealthy eating behaviors don't get me wrong. But it can also be pretty unhealthy to beat oneself up over things. It's that kind of thinking which can lead to binging in me. I would have felt much better if I'd just had the slices of pizza that I wanted and not worried so much over having to eat it all since I'd already begun or to prevent eating only pizza every day for the rest of my life omg. I could have had three slices or whatever and not felt bad about it, just enjoyed it.
So I made pound cake today. I made it a couple of weeks ago and had a slice or two every day and felt guilty and like I was ruining my weight loss. Well today I planned for it and I made it and it's delicious. I've even decided to give half of it away and I've just packed it up, but not because I'm afraid I'll ruin myself but because it's good and I want to share. I don't have to feel bad at all about those slices I've already eaten. They feel darn good in my belly right now.

Some of the things mentioned here as cheats are part of what I eat sometimes...Salsa and chips...Tortellini, pizza, I use these as part of my day to day life.....I got this sleeve to help me deal with my food addiction and teach me how to eat to live....
I made a choice not to follow a failed program before and do without things that I like to eat....That to me is becoming another addiction ...we can't be afraid of food anymore but work through the issues of why we are where we are...Balance is so important in this area....
I feel I need a little bit of everything so I guess I cheat all the time....160lb. gone in 10 months! Seems to work for me so far!!!!

As this day as gone along, I am actually getting more comfortable! I have not had to resort to any pain medication today at all! That amazes me! Water is also now going down easy, as opposed to the razor blade feelings. I've actually consumed more water today than any other day so far, and I am relieved, because I thought if I didn't get my act together, I would wind up back in the hospital with dehydration! I was able to have a 1/2 cup of Greek yogurt today, and I am looking forward to my next meal. It did fill me up and I was satisfied for about an hour and a half, when I began to feel hungry again. But, that is when I began drinking water, and discovered it didn't hurt to drink it anymore, and have been adding that, and the hunger feelings have subsided! As to Protein drinks, I have been not doing so well with those. I have them on hand, but I had so many in my pre-op liquid diet, I can't seem to look at them anymore. I plan to have one today at some point, because I know how seriously important they are for my healing and health, even if I feel like gagging on them. I have my doc appointment on Wednesday and I'm excited to see her and let her know these weird things and find out from her how far from "normal" I am or if I am right on target. My wounds are now itching, so that must mean healing is going on there as well! I'm already down 8 pounds, so that is also exciting!!! My clothes, which were already getting too big due to the pre-op diet and then the liquid phase before surgery, but now they are seriously getting ridiculous! When your undies start to want to fall off, you know exciting things are going on! LOL!

As this day as gone along, I am actually getting more comfortable! I have not had to resort to any pain medication today at all! That amazes me! Water is also now going down easy, as opposed to the razor blade feelings. I've actually consumed more water today than any other day so far, and I am relieved, because I thought if I didn't get my act together, I would wind up back in the hospital with dehydration! I was able to have a 1/2 cup of Greek yogurt today, and I am looking forward to my next meal. It did fill me up and I was satisfied for about an hour and a half, when I began to feel hungry again. But, that is when I began drinking water, and discovered it didn't hurt to drink it anymore, and have been adding that, and the hunger feelings have subsided! As to Protein drinks, I have been not doing so well with those. I have them on hand, but I had so many in my pre-op liquid diet, I can't seem to look at them anymore. I plan to have one today at some point, because I know how seriously important they are for my healing and health, even if I feel like gagging on them. I have my doc appointment on Wednesday and I'm excited to see her and let her know these weird things and find out from her how far from "normal" I am or if I am right on target. My wounds are now itching, so that must mean healing is going on there as well! I'm already down 8 pounds, so that is also exciting!!! My clothes, which were already getting too big due to the pre-op diet and then the liquid phase before surgery, but now they are seriously getting ridiculous! When your undies start to want to fall off, you know exciting things are going on! LOL!