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Actually....yes. I do wonder why she was removed. She is very passionate in her defense of Omar. However, she has a valid point. Seems so far like sour grapes more than some moral issue. And the word rape should make you cringe, but glossing over it or trying to be PC by saying "non-consensual" is silly. If someone is going to be accused of non consensual sex, pull on big girl panties and call it what it is.
Again, Omar is not in a position of power. They don't pay your way to go there, you are not a hostage and have to have sex to get what you need. It is a choice the adults make. In fact, we pay to go there. We are the ones in charge.

I had surgery with Dr. Illan and I am actually not a fan of Omar. When I went, I felt very much like a burden and couldn't wait to go home. That being said, I don't feel that this was the right way to do this. If Susan wanted to call out Omar for having sex with clients, then state it that way. Trying to ruin the reputation of Dr. Illan is irresponsible. There is no rape unless the woman TRULY said no and was forced. Getting your feelings hurt later doesn't make him a predator, it makes him an ass. And there are a lot of men like that. He isn't in a position of power. He can't do anything to you to make you have sex. If you consent to it, that may be a mistake you make and I feel for you (speaking to whoever "you" is) because it sucks to be dumped. I can't say if the accusations are true or not. However, blaming Dr. Illan is wrong since Susan admitted that she has not talked to him. If Omar blocks the emails and calls, how exactly would Dr. Illan know?
I actually agree that Omar hides stuff since I had a complication and wanted to ask Dr. Illan about it and told Omar to ask him. I never got a response and when I asked Dr. Illan personally when he came to the hotel, he knew nothing about it. Did Omar forget to ask? Maybe. But my question never got to Dr. Illan. Please don't be so quick to ruin the rep of a man that saved my life. I didn't got to MX for Omar, I went despite him.
PS....I have been on this site since 2005 but was forced to create a new ID because I had been off for awhile when it became bariatricpal. So I have seen posts for a long time.

Dr. Illan is wonderful. He is a very quiet, gentle man and I would trust my whole family with him.

Actually, the different scenarios you gave all have different answers. Teacher/student....the teacher has POWER over the student to give a bad grade.
Coach/player.....same as above
Therapist/patient.....therapy for what? Physical therapy? Its fine if they want to. Mental where the therapist can give them a bad recommendation, then no. Again, they have power over that person.
Omar has no power over anyone. The only thing he could do is??? What? Now if he requires sex before surgery, that is a problem.

Actually....yes. I do wonder why she was removed. She is very passionate in her defense of Omar. However, she has a valid point. Seems so far like sour grapes more than some moral issue. And the word rape should make you cringe, but glossing over it or trying to be PC by saying "non-consensual" is silly. If someone is going to be accused of non consensual sex, pull on big girl panties and call it what it is.
Again, Omar is not in a position of power. They don't pay your way to go there, you are not a hostage and have to have sex to get what you need. It is a choice the adults make. In fact, we pay to go there. We are the ones in charge.

Actually, the different scenarios you gave all have different answers. Teacher/student....the teacher has POWER over the student to give a bad grade.
Coach/player.....same as above
Therapist/patient.....therapy for what? Physical therapy? Its fine if they want to. Mental where the therapist can give them a bad recommendation, then no. Again, they have power over that person.
Omar has no power over anyone. The only thing he could do is??? What? Now if he requires sex before surgery, that is a problem.

Actually....yes. I do wonder why she was removed. She is very passionate in her defense of Omar. However, she has a valid point. Seems so far like sour grapes more than some moral issue. And the word rape should make you cringe, but glossing over it or trying to be PC by saying "non-consensual" is silly. If someone is going to be accused of non consensual sex, pull on big girl panties and call it what it is.
Again, Omar is not in a position of power. They don't pay your way to go there, you are not a hostage and have to have sex to get what you need. It is a choice the adults make. In fact, we pay to go there. We are the ones in charge.

I had surgery with Dr. Illan and I am actually not a fan of Omar. When I went, I felt very much like a burden and couldn't wait to go home. That being said, I don't feel that this was the right way to do this. If Susan wanted to call out Omar for having sex with clients, then state it that way. Trying to ruin the reputation of Dr. Illan is irresponsible. There is no rape unless the woman TRULY said no and was forced. Getting your feelings hurt later doesn't make him a predator, it makes him an ass. And there are a lot of men like that. He isn't in a position of power. He can't do anything to you to make you have sex. If you consent to it, that may be a mistake you make and I feel for you (speaking to whoever "you" is) because it sucks to be dumped. I can't say if the accusations are true or not. However, blaming Dr. Illan is wrong since Susan admitted that she has not talked to him. If Omar blocks the emails and calls, how exactly would Dr. Illan know?
I actually agree that Omar hides stuff since I had a complication and wanted to ask Dr. Illan about it and told Omar to ask him. I never got a response and when I asked Dr. Illan personally when he came to the hotel, he knew nothing about it. Did Omar forget to ask? Maybe. But my question never got to Dr. Illan. Please don't be so quick to ruin the rep of a man that saved my life. I didn't got to MX for Omar, I went despite him.
PS....I have been on this site since 2005 but was forced to create a new ID because I had been off for awhile when it became bariatricpal. So I have seen posts for a long time.

I had surgery with Dr. Illan and I am actually not a fan of Omar. When I went, I felt very much like a burden and couldn't wait to go home. That being said, I don't feel that this was the right way to do this. If Susan wanted to call out Omar for having sex with clients, then state it that way. Trying to ruin the reputation of Dr. Illan is irresponsible. There is no rape unless the woman TRULY said no and was forced. Getting your feelings hurt later doesn't make him a predator, it makes him an ass. And there are a lot of men like that. He isn't in a position of power. He can't do anything to you to make you have sex. If you consent to it, that may be a mistake you make and I feel for you (speaking to whoever "you" is) because it sucks to be dumped. I can't say if the accusations are true or not. However, blaming Dr. Illan is wrong since Susan admitted that she has not talked to him. If Omar blocks the emails and calls, how exactly would Dr. Illan know?
I actually agree that Omar hides stuff since I had a complication and wanted to ask Dr. Illan about it and told Omar to ask him. I never got a response and when I asked Dr. Illan personally when he came to the hotel, he knew nothing about it. Did Omar forget to ask? Maybe. But my question never got to Dr. Illan. Please don't be so quick to ruin the rep of a man that saved my life. I didn't got to MX for Omar, I went despite him.
PS....I have been on this site since 2005 but was forced to create a new ID because I had been off for awhile when it became bariatricpal. So I have seen posts for a long time.

Leslie, how did you get in touch with the ladies you spoke to for Dr. Illan? I spoke with Omar last night and he was very nice. I like the fact that he encouraged talking to patients as opposed to just taking his word for it. I am wanting to go at the end of February so I need to decide and get my plane tickets soon!

I admit that I am not diligent enough with the massive Vitamin regimen that is required with a malabsorptive procedure. I had to choose what I could live with vs. what I knew I would fail miserably at. Losing weight is one thing, believe me, I get that. Living with Vitamin counts of 20-30 pills a day is absurd in my little world, and there is no way I would do it for the rest of my life.
Those same DS'ers told me I would fail miserably with a VSG only revision from my band. I had a BMI of right at 50 starting my VSG journey, and after 10 months, 138lbs lost, a BMI of 22, I'd like to say that I am by all means a success with VSG as a stand alone procedure.
Plus, I wanted to have another child. Dealing with deficiencies or too high vitamin levels (which occurs with DS'ers as well) was something that I refused to deal with in pregnancy.
I refused to have RNY also. The long term complications and regain stats with RNY were not in my best interest.
I'm 2 years out, maintained my loss for a year before pregnancy weight started creeping in, and today myself and the baby are thriving. I do not have to take in any additional Vitamins or supplements, and have zero issues eating enough calories to support my body and another developing human.
Best wishes in your research. It is very difficult to decide. I had to look at what I was willing to live with 10, 15, 20 years and beyond, not just what could get the weight off the quickest.

It's fine if you want to be misinformed and appear ignorant here, that's your right I guess. But you obviously know nothing about the Medical Tourism in Mexico. I don't think you probably want to know about it either since I believe you're just here to stir the pot and troll, but surgeons in Mexico have been doing these procedures longer than most surgeons in the US, they have great outcomes, the hospitals are clean (as clean as in the US), some of the surgeons are even members of American surgical associations, so there you go.

Mickeymantle I'm not quite sure how you came to the conclusion from my minimal post that I am not ready for the sleeve. My band NEVER gave me restriction, had an Upper GI recently that validated the fact that there was no restriction even with a complete fill. There are health problems associated with my band, as I stated I have Lupus, which was diagnosed post-banding, Lupus is a contraindication for the band as there is a foreign substance in your body and Lupus is an auto-immune disease. So regardless of wether I'm sleeved or not, the band has to go.
I'm assuming that you have suggested therapy to everyone on this board, as everyone that requires bariatric surgery has some type of food issue, otherwise bariatric surgery would not be necessary and 35% of the population of the United States would not be considered obese.
I am ready for the revision, my husband is the one that has concerns. Not looking for judgement on my decision, looking for assistance in convincing a loved one.