O.T.R. sleever

Most of my problem with American providers is with the attitude of the surgeon & the staff
In Mexico, any little discomfort is taken seriously, examined, and addressed. Quite the opposite in American hospitals.
In Mexico they want to identify any possible issue before it becomes a problem, whereas whereas American facilities have repeatedly written off complaints as patients just being whiners.
And when there is a problem, American doctors first response seems to be to avoid litigation, whereas in Mexico the first response is to serve the patient.
I don't really blame the surgeons for this as much as I do society. They are practicing medicine in an environment that is continually seeking an opportunity to rake them over the coals. Whereas in Mexico a patients recourse is to ruin the surgeons future career, but it won't be to the financial benefit of the patient.

Most of my problem with American providers is with the attitude of the surgeon & the staff
In Mexico, any little discomfort is taken seriously, examined, and addressed. Quite the opposite in American hospitals.
In Mexico they want to identify any possible issue before it becomes a problem, whereas whereas American facilities have repeatedly written off complaints as patients just being whiners.
And when there is a problem, American doctors first response seems to be to avoid litigation, whereas in Mexico the first response is to serve the patient.
I don't really blame the surgeons for this as much as I do society. They are practicing medicine in an environment that is continually seeking an opportunity to rake them over the coals. Whereas in Mexico a patients recourse is to ruin the surgeons future career, but it won't be to the financial benefit of the patient.

Yes, Brazillian is great. I only go downtown if the streets are clean. But when it's clean, I'll take my time & enjoy the scenery

VICTORY!!!!! Pre sleeve you wouldn't have even thought about it till after it was already eaten. Then if you were anything like me, you'd get depressed that you screwed up again and rationalized that since you already screwed up you might as well eat another one. Congratulations!!

I'd just like to clear a couple things up from this thread.
1. All WLS have an amount of risk. Anybody that believes that the risks involved in the sleeve are greater than that of the Lap Band I invite you to visit the forum Vertical Sleeve Talk, sub forum band to sleeve revisions. I assure there is no lack of horror stories & near death experiences involving the LB. I'm very glad that the LB has worked for most people on this forum, & I truly hope it continues to work for you
2. The sleeve has actualy been around since the 1950's. It was originally performed on patients twhos BMI was too high to safely perform RNY on, with the intent of converting it to RNY once the patient reached a safe weight. There are recorded events as far back as the 1970's of RNY patients receiving the first step of the procedure(the sleeve) and then opting to not follow through with the intestinal rerouting, making them a defacto sleever. Furthermore the sleeve has been performed as a stand alone procedure since the mid 90's, the reason most people weren't familiar with it is because it wasn't approved as a stand alone procedure in the United States till about 5-6 years ago.

Hey Frank,
Thanks for sharing, glad to hear your surgery was so uneventful. Unfortunately those of us that had no problems just don't say it enough. But honestly most surguries go quite well. It might be time to revive the "good recovery" thread.

Someone should do a study on this. I'm thinking we would need a pre-op test & 3-6-9-12month post op tests.
I feel we could really do a service for our fellow man. Poeple want answers.

It's going to be hard to find someone on this forum that fills that criteria.
To gain "all" the weight back one would have to completely given up. Well, someone who has given up is not going to hang out here. We specialize in supporting all those who share our common goal & burning all quitters at the stake. This just wouldn't be a comfortable place for someone who has given up.

Before, and currently. Still 40lbs to go.
Think I need to go buy a belt. Haven't been comfortable wearing one in years.

I am of German descent, and in my opinion, we here in America are doing a huge disservice to our children by "protecting" them from alcohol. I was given small amounts of beer in my bottle as a baby. And as I grew I was never refused alcoholic beverages, they were limited, just as any responsible parent would with sodas.
Now the argument can be made on both sides about health advantages/disadvantages. But where I saw the biggest difference was in my late teens & early twenties when all my friends were out getting sloshed, alcohol really wasn't that big of a deal to me, because I had access to it and was taught moderation with it my entire life.

If you are not still in the healing stages, you might try one of these.

I love them. It is flavored sparkling Water. The carbonation is very light. They are a bit expensive IMO at $5/six pack or $1 each at Walmart. But a couple a week shouldn't break the bank.

RED. Go RED. Actually more if a strawberry Blonde. Or a really bright RED. Pink works too

'Nuff said.

The difference is that in Mexico you are most likely going to get a surgeon who has multiple times the experience, also you won't be dealing with a medical industry that has a God complex. From my experience on this forum, you will likely have less chance of complications, and if you do have any you will have a much more attentive medical staff.
I really do not fault the surgeons themselves for this, I see it primarily as a condition caused by a litigious society and an insurance system that forces doctors into an attitude of self preservation before anything else.

http://theworldaccordingtoeggface.blogspot.com/2008/08/protein-ice-cream.html
There are several "proteined ice cream" recipes there

Ok, as you might have read in my confession, I had a slip and got back up to 196lbs(201 with cloths on). I'm back on track as of a couple weeks ago & I'm happy to report that as of this week I'm down to 190lbs.

Hey Frank,
Thanks for sharing, glad to hear your surgery was so uneventful. Unfortunately those of us that had no problems just don't say it enough. But honestly most surguries go quite well. It might be time to revive the "good recovery" thread.

A bit of insight.
The vast majority of us guys have a built in need to protect. If you are ever in a situation where you feel threatened, simply pick a guy and tell him that you are uncomfortable. He will do whatever is needed to ensure your safety. Our natural instinct is to provide & protect, and we will walk away feeling better about ourselves. There is a reason that Boy Scouts walked little old ladies across the streets in days gone by. It wasn't because she really needed it, it's because it gave the young man a sense of pride & service.
The unfortunate reality is men aren't allowed to be men anymore. Give us permission to be men, and you will be pleasantly surprised.
Yes, there are a few exceptions out there. But for every one self important jack ass out there there are at least 10 men just begging for a chance to destroy that ones whole world. Reality is, you really do not have to learn how to deal with us, you simply need to give us permission to be who we really are.
This in no way is intended to steer you away from learning to defend yourself, I actually believe that is a great idea. I think all women should do what they can to make themselves less of a target.

I told you so!!!!

You might consider only using 1scoop of your Isopure powder. Your body cannot absorb more than 30 grams of Protein in a sitting.