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I keep seeing you can have sugar

Artificial sweeteners give me migraines so why can't you use sugars. I use Boost for a protein drink and it isn't sugar free.

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    What happens when you eat refined sugar? You gain weight and it causes health issues. Where are you are researching that refined sugar is ok after bariatrics for weight loss?. You may want to con

  • And for some people a little natural fruit sugar is okay, many others it sends them down the "slippery slope" towards total non- -compliance. O am 7.5 months out , have not dumped yet, that's a point

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    Some links about the sleeve that may help. Sleeve diet guide: https://www.obesitycoverage.com/the-big-gastric-sleeve-diet-guide/ Sleeve reference manual https://www.obesitycoverag

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I hate sf products. I drank fairlife milk and yogurt for protein.

It is very hard to find a non sf product. I also can't tolerate whey. It makes me gag.

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I found a vegetarian protein mix that I can tolerate but I mix it in strawberries and bananas to make my smoothies and that is sugar a fruit sugar. I love the new Protein Boost the only premade protein drink I really like. I used to drink the EAS protein but this is so much better. What happens when you eat sugar and not SF? Does it make you sick?

I had a sweet tooth and that is one of the reasons why I had to have the surgery. My sweet tooth led eventually over time to too much weight gain that then that lead to sugar diabetes. Diabetes is a terrible condition. I watched the effect of diabetes on my mother. She developed wounds on her feet. These were not heal because of diabetes. For 10 years before her death, she had to exercise great care to prevent her wounds from becoming infected. Many people with diabetes have their feet amputated. So sugar in a way is a journey down a deep dark death spiral.

After my RNY gastric bypass surgery, I lost the weight and I maintained the weight loss and part of the reason why I maintained that loss was because I avoid sugar (in all its many forms) like the plague. I rely on artificial sweeteners and no calorie natural sweeteners. So I guess my question to you is "Have you tried no or low calorie natural sweeteners such as Stevia?"

11 hours ago, Sandra Nuelken said:

I found a vegetarian Protein mix that I can tolerate but I mix it in strawberries and bananas to make my smoothies and that is sugar a fruit sugar. I love the new Protein Boost the only premade Protein Drink I really like. I used to drink the EAS protein but this is so much better. What happens when you eat sugar and not SF? Does it make you sick?

23 hours ago, Sandra Nuelken said:

Artificial sweeteners give me Migraines so why can't you use sugars. I use Boost for a Protein Drink and it isn't sugar free.

What happens when you eat refined sugar?

You gain weight and it causes health issues. Where are you are researching that refined sugar is ok after bariatrics for weight loss?. You may want to consult with your dietician and do more research on weight loss surgery.

Fruit as sugar – Is it on your plan? If its allowed in small amounts, great.

This is not about taste it’s about getting healthy. Tolerance, if you are vomiting try other products. consult your Dr to make sure it’s not Gerd or a post op medical issue.

Your success rate may be better with procedures that re routes your intestines. You will get dumping syndrome (sick) when you eat sugar. With the sleeve its less likely.

Is boost on your list as a bariatric protein drink? What does your plan from your surgeon’s office list?

Boost vs quest protein

Boost 240 calories, 33 carbohydrates 23 sugars 15 grams protein

Quest 110 calories, 2 grams carbohydrates, 1-gram sugar 23 grams protein.

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I don't tolerate that type of protein only vegetarian protein. I had a lap band hand lost over 100 pounds and maintained it until the band failed. I know what to eat, and don't do sugar very much. I'll save further questions for my doctor.

I get headaches from artificial sweeteners. I would rather use less table sugar than use sf products. Plus, I've never tasted an artificial sweetener that was good.

Is boost from whey? I haven't drank one protein shake, except before surgery, that I liked. I put banana and strawberry in it.

After surgery I couldnt even stand the smell of whey. I prepared one after surgery and took a swallow and it triggered my gag reflex.

15 hours ago, gabybab said:

I get headaches from artificial sweeteners. I would rather use less table sugar than use sf products. Plus, I've never tasted an artificial sweetener that was good.

Is boost from whey? I haven't drank one Protein Shake, except before surgery, that I liked. I put banana and strawberry in it.

After surgery I couldnt even stand the smell of whey. I prepared one after surgery and took a swallow and it triggered my gag reflex.

I can’t do whey any longer since surgery. I use plant based protein only otherwise I get very bad digestive issues. I also avoid sugar and chemical artificial sweeteners (since before surgery). Although I use Stevia, I prefer Truvia. I cannot tell the difference between Truvia and sugar.

20 hours ago, Sandra Nuelken said:

I don't tolerate that type of Protein only vegetarian protein. I had a lap band hand lost over 100 pounds and maintained it until the band failed. I know what to eat, and don't do sugar very much. I'll save further questions for my doctor.

I think you’ll find that when you ask questions here you will get informed answers from folks who have your best interest at heart. They are not trying to hurt your feelings or pass judgement. They are trying to answer the question you asked with supporting info that will help you succeed.

And for some people a little natural fruit sugar is okay, many others it sends them down the "slippery slope" towards total non- -compliance. O am 7.5 months out , have not dumped yet, that's a point in my favot, but I am far behind you guys when it comes to diet advancement. Snuck 5 cheezit crackers from Tomkittens bowl, chewed them to a mush, so far so good but they didn't tast3 as thrilling as I was planning for. He can heve the rest of the box÷ 8n the Bad Old Days I would have arm wrestled him for,them÷ And now what some else said "NOTHING TASTES AS GOOD AS THINNER FEELS!!

I think it has more to do with it leading to bad habits - sugar is an extremely addictive substance, and the more it is added into diet, the worse one's diet tends to get. A little every now and then is fine, I'm sure - I personally indulge from time to time. BUT. I know if I have it regularly I will end up right back where I started.

I also think some tend to not tolerate it well after surgery. My husband (who also had surgery) is more sensitive to foods than I am, so he has to more closely watch what he eats.

Just be smart about it. Listen to yourself, and keep in mind what is best for yourself. (:

On 4/20/2019 at 2:24 AM, Sandra Nuelken said:

Artificial sweeteners give me Migraines so why can't you use sugars.

You can use real sugar, of course (if you don't dump on it). Most users on here don't want to use it though.

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I was concerned about the "dumping" syndrome. Does that happen with the sleeve? I usually buy a one pound of sugar and it lasts me about a year unless I'm making hummingbird food. I make my "faux" sweet tea, I make it with caffeine free tea and a 1/3 cup of sugar in a gallon of tea. Then I pour a Tervis mug of it and add ice all day. It makes me happy. Also makes me feel like I'm drinking sweet tea, the drink of the south. Sugar is not high on my list, now I can fall into a room of warm bread and disappear. I've been successful with the lap band until it was removed. Do I follow the same diet? I lost 100 pounds with the band.

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AFTER GASTRIC SLEEVE SURGERY DIET

You’ve made it past surgery and you’re on your way to a healthier life. You may think it’s clear sailing from here. Unfortunately, the hard part is just beginning.

Now is not the time to cheat. While the two week diet was important reduce your risk of surgical (intraoperative) complication, the week 1 to 4 post-op diet will help prevent post-op complications.

The first few weeks after surgery, you will experience frequent irritability and it’s not uncommon to second guess your decision to have surgery.

The very extreme diet after your sleeve gastrectomy may seem like your surgeon is being overly cautious. It is utterly important that you follow his or her instructions to the ‘T.’

Cheating on your post-op diet can cause diarrhea, dehydration, constipation, bowel obstruction, or a very serious gastric leak. If you need more motivation to follow your post-op diet, this article will help.

Below is a typical diet after gastric sleeve surgery for weeks 1 to 4.

WEEK 1 – CLEAR LIQUIDS ONLY

Glass of water.In week one you are limited to clear liquids only. This sounds tough. And it is tough. However, most patients have very little desire to eat. The hunger hormone ghrelin is almost non-existent after surgery.

The part of the stomach that produces the majority of ghrelin is removed during surgery.

Make sure all items listed below are sugar free.

  • Water
  • Broth
  • Jell-O
  • Decaf tea
  • Decaf coffee
  • Sugar free Popsicles
  • Sugar free drinks that are not carbonated

You should avoid:

  • Carbonated beverages
  • Very sweet beverages
  • Sugar
  • Caffeine

WEEK 2 – FULL LIQUID DIET WITH PROTEIN

Protein shake and shaker bottle.During week two you may start to feel some hunger pains. Continue to stick to your surgeon’s recommended diet. Your diet may include all items from week 1 plus:

  • Protein powder mixed with a sugar free non-carbonated clear liquid.
  • Sugar free pudding.
  • Soup with soft noodles.
  • Non fat yogurt.
  • Carnation instant breakfast. Look for the sugar free option.
  • Very thin creamed soups. No chunks.
  • Sugar free sorbet.
  • Very watery hot oatmeal. Check the sugar content.
  • Diluted no-sugar added juice.
  • Sugar free, nonfat ice cream
  • Thinned applesauce. Check sugar content.

WEEK 3 – SOFT PUREED FOODS

Week three after gastric sleeve surgery is tough. But the good news is that you can start adding some real food into your diet, albeit pureed.

You still need to be careful to limit sugars and fats. The goals for week 3 include:

  • Get your 60 grams of protein per day
  • Eat slowly
  • Introduce new foods one by one.

Scrambled eggs.Food may taste differently and will be tolerated differently than they were before surgery. You may find that dairy is harder to digest. It’s recommended that you introduce new foods slowly.

Give your body some time to react to each new food. By doing this you’ll be able to identify foods that are causing gas, stomach upset, and/or diarrhea.

The foods listed below are typically acceptable for week three after surgery.

  • 1 protein shake per day. You can now blend them with yogurt or non-fat milk.
  • Almond milk or coconut milk makes a great protein shake.
  • Hummus
  • Cottage cheese (low fat)
  • Soft cereals – Let your cereal sit in the non-fat milk until it’s soft.
  • Soft vegetables – steam or boil them until they are soft.
  • Soft cheeses – limit these, they are typically high in fat.
  • Ground chicken or beef. Add some beef or chicken stock to keep the meat soft.
  • Soups
  • Scrambled eggs – these are a great source of protein.
  • Soft (steamed) fish. Remember to chew well.
  • Canned tuna and salmon (you can add low fat mayo). Great source of protein.
  • Mashed fruit. Bananas, avocados, and canned fruit (watch sugar content).

You should avoid the following foods:

  • While smoothies are ok, limit their sugar content.
  • Sugar
  • Starchy foods like pasta, rice and bread.
  • Fibrous vegetables like celery, broccoli, asparagus, raw leafy greens.

WEEK 4 – INTRODUCING FOODS!

You’ve followed your diet up to week four. Now it’s time to start introducing real foods.

Your sleeve and stomach are still sensitive, so go slow and remember to chew each bite thoroughly. You’re done with pureed foods, but you should continue to look for softer versions of food during this week.

  • Tuna fish.Continue your daily protein shakes
  • Introduce chicken and beef very slowly. Ensure you chew thoroughly.
  • Any type of fish.
  • Fruits
  • Vegetables (it’s still recommended that you cook these to soften them a bit).
  • Sweet Potatoes
  • Mashed and baked potatoes.
  • Cereal
  • Caffeine can be introduced. It’s recommended that you limit this.

You should avoid the following foods in week four:

  • Sodas
  • Fried foods
  • Fibrous vegetables (i.e. celery and asparagus)
  • Sugary drinks
  • Candy
  • Dessert
  • Pastas and other high carbohydrate, low nutrient foods (pizza).
  • Whole milk and other whole milk dairy foods.
  • Nuts

WEEK 4 HEALTHY SNACKS

While it is recommended that you only eat 3 small meals each day and hydrate in-between meals, you may need a small healthy snack. If your surgeon approves this, the items below make healthy snacks.

  • Hummus with rice crackers or softened (boiled and cooled) baby carrots.
  • Hard boiled egg.
  • Quarter cup of oatmeal.
  • Quarter of a baked sweet potato (or microwaved)
  • Banana
  • Strawberries or fresh fruit.

WEEK 5 AND BEYOND

Gastric sleeve food pyramid.Continue to introduce foods one by one to see how well they are tolerated. Watch out for constipation, diarrhea, and upset stomach.

  • Eat three small meals every day.
  • Hydrate throughout the day.
  • Stop drinking fluids 30 minutes before each meal.
  • Avoid snacking. If you do, choose a nutrient-dense food (fruit, vegetable, nuts).
  • Take your recommended daily vitamins.
  • Ensure you get 60 grams of protein.
  • Supplement daily with a protein shake.
  • Incorporate exercise into your daily routine. Make it a habit.
  • Avoid sodas.
  • Prepare for bad days. How will you cope when you are in a difficult situation?
  • Find an accountability partner. Go to a support group and make friends that you can call.

6 TIPS – HEALTHY EATING AFTER GASTRIC SLEEVE SURGERY

  1. Choose foods that are nutrient dense. Bread is not nutrient dense. An apple, banana, fish, etc. are nutrient dense foods.
  2. Do not drink your calories. It won’t fill you up and most caloric drinks are filled with sugar.
  3. Expect an emotional roller-coaster. Don’t let food be your comfort. Create a plan.
  4. Chew your food thoroughly and take your time eating.
  5. Plan what you will eat if you’re going out. Ask for half the portion size at restaurants. You may get a discount and you won’t be tempted to overeat.
  6. Make water your new best friend. Drink it regularly throughout the day. Buy a reusable 64 oz bottle that you can carry to work with you. Make sure you finish the entire bottle each day. But remember not to drink with meals (this helps prevent stretching your pouch).

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