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Shake recommendations please! (everything is tooooo sweet now)
Soon2bFit21 replied to GottaLearnToSlowDown's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I really like the Fairlife nutrition plan shakes as well: they were the only ones I could tolerate after surgery and I still drink them. The salted carmel one is great and so are chocolate and vanilla. I also bought plain whey isolate (from bulk nutrition) and added to soups, sauces, yogurt etc. -
I have three weeks of post-op liquid diet and am almost two weeks through it. I'm allowed to have unflavored Greek yogurt, skyr, and sugar-free fat-free puddings on my "liquid" diet and I find those help a lot. Also, warm savory things help—phở broth, miso soup, chicken broth. And the Fairlife nutrition shakes that taste exactly like chocolate milk seem to assuage my hunger. It is better now than it was immediately post-op, for what it's worth.
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FYI. I'm going to discuss poop! I'm a Registered Nurse x16yrs. It's possible this might be to much information for some but I'm not gonna sugar coat my info/experience. I hope some find this much detail helpful.
Post op gastric sleeve 8 days out. The first day/night was AWFUL. I believe the majority of discomfort was from all the gas placed in the abdomen during surgery. Day 3 I started have less pain from the gas yet the spasm/pulling/tightness in right lower quadrant of abd. continues to this day (maybe a 4 on the pain scale w/ 10 being worst). I recommend WALK, splint your abdomen w/ a small pillow to cough/sneeze/laugh/try to have a bowel movement!
Speaking of bowel movements, my Doctor did not have me do a liquid fast 2 wks prior to surgery, only 24 hrs prior to day of. I was unable to pass gas or have a bowel movement until day 6 and that was with the help of Miralax on day 5 ( note I did take the pain med's/Lortab the first 3 days). I have no problem taking in H2O as I'm a water snob so this wasn't the issue. FYI. Narcotics can increase constipation. I recommend the Miralax, I purchased individual dose pkg's which make it simple to take on the road/convenient. Bowel movements should return to pre surgery consistency if not discuss w/ your MD.
It was difficult to urinate ( minimal volume/stream) the 1st 3 days as well, I assume due to gas and swelling in the abd. cavity, 8 days out and the all things back to normal in that department.
No appetite, only thirst first 3 days. I started the Protein shakes my local health food store offered NutraBio 100% whey protein iso. 25 grams protein in one scoop and it tastes clean no after taste/grit. I started to notice a desire to eat on day 3. I found heating up Lipton soup mix or ckn soup from a can and straining out the solid bits extremely fulfilling. Now day 8 I want to have something of substance in my belly. I'm not sure if it's hunger or habit. I am still cooking meals for my family. I bought some ice cream last night and that made a huge difference in my attitude/energy/outlook. I've noticed many different diet recommendations throughout my research in regards to the liquid phase of the diet. My surgeon wants everything low carb, low fat, calories 700-900. That is a bit extreme for me I beleive. I've already gone back to work (day 5/modified w/ no lifting over 15 pds) and couldn't make it through the day on that limited amt of calories. I've been blending canned soups to liquid consistency the last few days, loads of yogurt, popsicles and yes protein shakes. Tonight I needed something with richer consistency so I made myself a small bowl of mashed potatoes maybe 2oz. I felt so Satisfied and afterward, the idea of another week on a Liquid diet didn't seem so disappointing/unattainable.
The most dramatic changes I've noticed to my body since having the surgery is the overall inflammation/bloating in my face/abdomen is 70% resolved, my skin is 90% clearer and I don't feel the need to take my bra off the second I put it on ( strange I know). I am thrilled with my choice to have this procedure thus far. I feel much better when I listen to my body and not just blindly follow the strict eating regimen ordered by my MD. I'm not encouraging anyone to go against your MD's recommendations but for me, listening to my body and making small adjustments is making this journey more positive/manageable.
To date I've lost 13 pds and it's only day 8 post op.
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I had surgery at 297 or something (I can’t remember) and I am now 232. my goal weight was 195. I JUST started losing again after a massive stall that lasted WEEKS. I get like I was stuck at 245 forever! food wise: I’m getting in 50- 60 grams of protein (my protein levels are lower than the average patient because of kidney issues) Caloric intake is 700-800 a day. I really can’t get in much sometimes but I make sure to hit my protein and water goals. sample meals for a day: breakfast: scrambled egg (I’ll eat maybe half snack: cheese stick lunch: P3 and a yogurt (sometimes I can’t finish the yogurt and only eat half) Dinner: 2 chicken wings and a bite or two of a side, but not much and I often pass on the side completely and just eat the chicken. I just had my call from the dr and they told me I was doing great…. So I guess they aren’t concerned with my stall 🤷🏼♀️ i honestly can’t even give them an accurate weight because the 232 was when I had jeans, shoes, etc… all my clothes. So I might be 220 something lol
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My pre op is protein shakes with sugar/fat/caffeine free snacks of oatmeal, pudding, jello, apple sauce and yogurt. 1200 cal, 100g protein, 125g carbs per day. Sounds yucky, but it should be pretty easy. Im going to try to find unflavored protein powder to mix with fat free chicken broth in case I get sick of the shakes.
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8 days till surgery
lizonaplane replied to Leslie F's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm just over a week out and I had all these fears a few weeks ago. (Except about the piercings!) I must have had the TAP block too, because I was in very little pain at the hospital, but I was in a lot of pain once I got home (mostly when I tried to get up from lying down or when I was walking). I did take 3 total opioid pills but I would probably have survived with just the Tylenol (although I'd have been quite uncomfortable). I don't take the tylenol around the clock anymore, but I still need it sometimes. I had a lot of trouble getting in my liquid and protein the first three days, but now I'm getting at least 80 oz a day of liquid and about 80g of protein. My plan doesn't allow pudding. I'm eating strained soup (hot and sour or tom yum or onion or tomato), light greek yogurt, protein drinks, and a tiny bit of sugar free jello, although that doesn't appeal to me much. I'm drinking iced decaf coffee mixed with protein drink, low sugar drink packets mixed with 24 oz of water (like crystal light but I don't like their flavors), and cold water. I need to eat every few hours and I'll sit on the couch with a water bottle on my lap until I've drunk at least 8 oz before doing anything else. I'm not a big TV watcher, so I'm doing this while listening to podcasts or talking on the phone. Best of luck to you all! -
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Puréed stage is horrific!
cellbell replied to han27's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My plan didn't even have a puree stage, just liquids then soft foods, so I feel for you there. Are you struggling with just the concept of eating mushed up food? I admit that the idea of eating fully pureed meatloaf etc seems pretty off-putting, but maybe you could start with things like yogurt that naturally belong to that texture? Have you found anything at all you can stand? -
I had my surgery one week ago today. Here's what I've noticed: 1) I'm down 7.2 lbs 2) The pain was not so bad in the hospital but pretty bad the first few days at home, especially when trying to get up from lying down or when sitting up. Only minimal pain when changing positions now. 3) I took 3 total narcotic pills once I came home 4) The constipation is real. I did not have a BM from two days before my surgery until 5 days after. This was despite two kinds of laxatives prescribed by the hospital. I ended up needing a laxative suppository and Miralax. The suppository helped me go in like 30 minutes. I'm now adding miralax and magnesium citrate on a daily basis. Drinking my 64 oz of water has been helpful, too 5) Drinking water or anything was really hard the first few days. No matter how small I made the sips, I still had pain in my chest, and then it felt and sounded like a demon was in there, growling, angry because he had been evicted from my stomach 6) By day 7 (today), I can drink a full mouthfull of water or protein shake. It's easier to take my pills at night than it was, but it's still harder than before surgery. 7) I do have hunger, but I'm eating less than 500 calories a day, so that's not surprising. I only need to eat a small amount like 2/3 of a yogurt or half a protein drink to feel full, although I need to eat every few hours 8. Walking is hard. It makes my incision hurt a lot. I have walked around the block a few times, but I'm tired by the time I get home, and it's a short block. I can walk up the ten steps to the front door, but hills are hard 9) I tried to do a bit of work today, just going through emails and responding to them, but after about a half hour, my head was swimming. I'm glad I took two weeks off! 10) My parents were here for a week helping me out. They stayed in a hotel nearby. I didn't need them that much, but it was really helpful for things like laundry and the dishwasher and trash. And for company. But it was hard seeing them eat tasty food when I was just eating yogurt or protein shakes. I am still glad them came, because now I am bored and lonely
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One week post-op — feeling hunger
lizonaplane replied to imhenryxvi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am now one week out and I feel hunger often, too. I am taking omeprazole. i find that I need to eat every few hours, but I am fine with a yogurt or half a protein shake or some sugar free jello (that's about all I'm allowed on my plan as I'm still only allowed liquids for another week). It also helps to drink a lot, in small sips (so it doesn't hurt). It's hard when you see other people eat "real" food too, but that' not what causes the hunger - to me, that's just wishing I could have what they're having. The hunger is just hunger, unrelated to cravings (i'm having cravings for cheese, but I'm also having true hunger). -
First food after bypass
Tony B - NJ replied to Arual85's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have done a lot of canned tuna and chicken which mixed with yogurt and mayo goes down pretty well. I also had some ground turkey with taco seasonings and some lite sour cream as a lubricant to help get it down. That went pretty well also. The key is small bites and time between bites and it will be fine. Gotta go sloooooow. I made that mistake and ate too quickly and it felt like a bullet in the middle of my chest and a blockage. -
Tiny spoonfuls of applesauce, Greek yogurt, and mashed sweet potatoes moistened with chicken broth.
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Food Before and After Photos
Starwarsandcupcakes replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Another work day another “packing all my meals” picture. -Green smoothie (almond milk, kale, spinach, blueberries and lemonade protein powder) -water bottle, protein shake, and beef bouillon packet -romaine and tomato salad with a spicy boca chik’n patty and “dang” red pepper hummus dressing - vegetable soup (like yesterday’s) and triscuit thins -oikos blended strawberry Greek yogurt and a mint chip fit crunch bar. -
I probably single-handedly supported the entire beef jerky industry during weight loss phase (and some months after that). Little to no sugar, lotsa protein and satisfied my never-ending salt cravings. I always had a little ziploc of it in my purse. I also ate alot of cottage cheese and yogurt. After weight loss phase, I went through a love-affair with chicharron (i.e., pork rinds/cracklins). But I wouldn't recommend this until you are past weight loss phase as they are VERY high in calories (but also very high in protein). In terms of substitutes and alternatives, here are some examples of items I ate (and still eat)...note that I was ultra-low carb during weight loss phase, and and try to be semi-low carb now (but don't always succeed, lol) Shiratake noodles instead of pasta (actually very low nutrtion-wise, but I had to eat my saucy foods with something!) Chicken pizza crusts instead of wheat based pizza crusts (I also did cauliflower crusts, but I personally prefer the chicken ones). Kale chips instead of chips-chips Berries instead of higher-sugar fruits cashew milk instead of regular milk almond flour instead of wheat flour (careful: almond flour is way higher in calories) Stevia or erythritol instead of sugar sparkling water with lemon instead of pop/soda
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Hi all, I got sleeved with a hiatal hernia repair on 9/9. I am having an OK time getting fluids down- water, tea, etc. I am having an impossible time stomaching protein shakes or even getting yogurt down. Is this normal? When does it get easier? I find myself thinking about food all the time.. when does all this get easier?
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What can I eat two weeks post op?
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to fatiima86's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Most surgery centers provide a detailed meal plan, I would suggest using that as your guide. Its always best to follow your surgeon's recommendations, if you can. If you still feel like you need more info, reach out to their dietician for help. But most puree stage diets include things like strained soups (tomato, butternut squash, etc.), yogurt, refried beans (probably need to be thinned out a bit), applesauce, very thin masked potatoes, etc. Things that you can easily swallow, do not have chunks of any kind, and do not require any chewing. -
I did reeeaaally runny scrambled eggs and cottage cheese. I dont think I even started with vegetables (cooked or otherwise) until about month 3…but only because of the lack of stomach real estate. According to my food logs, i also dabbled in smoked oysters (from the can), yogurt and creamed soups.
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Starting the process
Creekimp13 replied to Tysheena84's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For me, eliminating all processed sugars and white flour...had an immediate impact on my weight loss. I lost like crazy just doing these two things. I still ate a ton of carbs, but I ate good whole carbs with dietary fiber...beans, potatos, chickpeas, nuts, whole grains, whole fruits and veggies....and stayed away from white bread, processed foods, stuff with added sugar and no fiber like juices and jellies. I also eliminated processed products with fats, fried stuff, and fatty meats. Learned to put low fat plain yogurt and salt and pepper on my baked potatoes....replaced butter and animal fat in cooking with extra virgin olive oil. Everyone has a different diet they prefer...I tend to follow Mediterannian or Mayo Clinic diet. Getting your steps is brilliant and will get your metabolism going like crazy. I started at 5000 steps a day and gradually increased in little baby steps to 12,000 a day. I get 20,000 some days now because I really enjoy walking and being active...but most days are 10 to 12,000 now. Being active will help you so much. Best wishes! You got this! -
2 Week Post Op- Eating too much?
catwoman7 replied to UTGal2006's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
you're not going to feel much (if any) restriction until you move to solid foods - also, you've had some nerves cut in your stomach, and it takes awhile for them to regenerate - so your stomach isn't really talking to your brain at this point. So you really have to just follow the guidelines your clinic gave you since you can't rely on hunger/full cues at this point. soup and yogurt go right through you - so you won't feel "full" on those even after your nerves are back again. also, for some of us, full cues aren't the same as they were before surgery. I really never feel full now, the way I did before surgery. Now I start feeling what can best be described as an uncomfortable pressure in my chest. I know when I get to that point I need to stop, or I'm going to be sorry. Other people have had kind of weird things like runny noses or sneezing as their new "full" cue. You may feel a normal "full" feeling at some point (some people do), but probably not for a few weeks yet when you're eating solids, your stomach is fully healed, and your nerves have started to grow back. -
Hi everyone! I had surgery 8/30 so I’m almost two weeks post-op. I am currently in PMSing, but for lunch I was able to get down 3 oz of soup and a 4 oz Two Good yogurt before I decided to stop eating. Is this normal? I’ve been so hungry lately but am trying to stick to my soft foods phase and make good choices, but I don’t feel “full” very fast on soup/yogurt. Am I eating too much?
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Awful smelling stool and gas
laurenantics replied to Pamela Raab Campbell's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
I'm curious if you're eating a lot of sugar alcohols...? Maltitol, Sorbitol, Erythritol ... ETC. Prior to my DS surgery I realized that these sugar substitutes gave me horrendous foul gas. The worst I've ever experienced. So, I'd cut them out way before surgery. These sweeteners are in a lot of protein shakes, protein bars and other food stuffs popular with WLS patients. This would include the very popular Oikos Triple Zero yogurt everyone loves because it's so high in protein, because even chicory root sweetener does it to me. I'm nine weeks post op and I'm not free of gas by any means, but I don't consider the gas or stool I have to be any different than it was pre-op. This is with the exception of the first day I tried romaine lettuce. I was a toxic mess of gas that day. -
I'm 4 months out too and hit stalls a few times. In the beginning I believe it was due to not enough protein an possibly not enough calories. But once I corrected that and made an effort to increase both, my weight started moving again. However, I hit my lowest weight of 253.4 lbs on Aug 28th and since then I have stalled and not lost anything more. In fact I have been seeing 255, 256, 257 on the scale since then. Nothing has changed diet wise so I'm not sure why (but I'm also due my period in 8-12 days so maybe that's why?). But like others say, it's normal to stall along the way. Anywho, my normal diet usually consists of...... Breakfast: 1 egg scrambled with some shredded cheddar cheese. Sometimes with some salsa, spicy guacamole, or mushrooms and/or onions, etc. I also usually have 1 or two turkey sausage patties but not always. Once in a while I will even make a sausage, egg and cheese on a whole wheat English Muffin but can ever only eat about half or a little more that half. Lunch: A scoop of tuna (made with light mayo) with 6 whole wheat Saltines and a few cubes of cheese. Or sometimes a sandwich (on Aldi Keto Bread: zero net carbs and 50 cal) with turkey lunchmeat and cheese (again, I can never eat a whole sandwich). Or sometimes just the meat and cheese by itself. Dinner: Usually chicken (baked in some way or another) and I always try and add a scoop of veggies but once I eat my protein I'm usually not able to fit the veggies. I also try and add brown rice once in a while or black/kidney/northern/etc. beans but usually never eat more than a few forks full. Other proteins I eat for dinner are salmon, shrimp, tilapia, flounder, etc. I also use the various tortilla's from https://mrtortilla.com/ and make all sorts of tacos or quesadillas. Each tortilla is 1 carb and 15 calories!! We LOVE them!! Oh and I also make chicken wings with various seasonings in my air fryer. Homemade chicken nuggets too. I don't usually snack during the day or evening but once in a while I will have an extra thing during the day like some light Greek yogurt, or cottage cheese alone or with something like cut up cantaloupe. I do TRY and have fruit most days too, like an apple or Halo, etc.
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I love green smoothies. I drink about 16oz 4-5 a week. I drink half before and after my workout. Mine usually consists of items like spinach, kale, pineapple, peach, celery, banana, apple, cucumber, ginger, beet powder, hemp hearts, ground up flax seed, lime or lemon juice, spirulina, vital protein powder, protein Greek yogurt, ice, fairlife protein milk, and a tasteless protein powder. I don’t put all of that in, but it’s basically whatever fruit and veggies I have on hand. I do mostly veggies and add a few pieces of fruit to sweeten it up. Lime or lemon cuts the “grass” taste for me. If I want peanut butter, I use PB fit. Have you tried it? It’s good! Btw, I used fresh raspberries the other day and it was delicious. However, there were so many little seeds, I had to strain the shake.
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Keep in mind, that isn’t a real gain - your body just went through a major trauma. I “gained” 10 lbs 3 days post-op. It came off, and then some. They pump you full of fluids when you are hospitalized and your body is trying to adjust. I was on liquids for a week, then purée for 2 weeks. I would stick with strained soups and protein drinks and Greek yogurt. I would suggest starting with a quarter cup and see how it goes. Eat that very slowly and stay off the scale for a few weeks. Also, be sure to drink your water.
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You're in a miserable situation for sure. I hope you and your family and friends came through the storm OK. I was on liquids for a week, then moved to puree stage. Some docs like their patients to stay longer on liquids. During the liquid phase, you can have protein drinks, thin cream of wheat, Greek yogurt, strained/blended soups, things like that. I would eat/drink slowly and stick to half a cup or so. It will take a while to learn what "full" feels like, but pay attention to the slightest feeling of fullness, and don't eat even a couple bites more, or you will regret it. During the puree phase, you can eat things that are blended to the consistency of applesauce. At that stage, I was grinding up dishes like chicken marsala or chicken curry and thinning them with a little chicken broth to get the right consistency. I would also grind soup and add chicken to get the right consistency and also add some protein. My doc said I could have soft fish and scrambled eggs during the puree phase if I chewed them well. One of my first mistakes, though, was trying to eat one egg and one egg white scrambled. It was too much and I didn't know to stop. If you have protein drinks, you can probably exist on those for a while. It will also help if you have power to run a blender. We could probably offer suggestions if you tell us what you have on hand and whether you have power or not. In Houston, Ike was a bad storm for us. I can't imagine how it would have been if I'd been recovering from bariatric surgery at the same time.
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It's so funny that years later this is still a staple! In the bariatric program here in Columbus through OhioHealth, they actually include the recipe as an example of food to eat during Stage 2 Puree, and I've modified throughout my progress to be a little thicker at stage 3 and now normal food stage. I use a bit of ricotta or cottage cheese and LF Sour Cream in place of the Greek yogurt. Great post!
