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How slow or different is Revision weight loss?
DebraM04 replied to Christina.Rose's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hello. I did my revision on May 27 2016 my Pre Op diet weight was 229 day of my surgery was 219 I am now about 6 months out and I currently weigh 175 you do lose super slow sucks but it's coming off lol. Before my revision I gained about 30 pounds back. It was more than I weighed to began the initial surgery with the band I was weighing 205. I wish you luck and don't get discouraged regardless it's coming off. Still need a ways to go. Keep your head up Sent from my SM-G935T using the BariatricPal App -
Dr. says 40 is too young...help
01mojanet replied to mythreekids's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I think he probably don't feel comfortable doing revisions Sent from my SM-N920P using the BariatricPal App -
I gained back the weight after VSG
Aggiemae replied to runaroundsue's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Unless they are bought in by the original surgeon to consult surgeons seldom touch another surgeons work, the liability it too high. They would lose their malpractice insurance. When you see a surgeon for a second opinion you have to sign all sorts of agreements A few years ago our contractor was arrested ( ended up getting 30 years in prison for child abuse, his wife got 24 years) a theory for another time and another thread. He was a good carpenter who did excellent work but the day the police came for him the central chimney was halfway knocked out, all the siding was off one side of out house and five of the seven Windows where completely out and the only the studs and framing where done on the 2nd floor dormer. We had paid $35,000 of the $50,000 total and they probably spent close to $35,000 on salaries and building supplies. We had to hire other contractors to finish and everyone of then insisted on partially deconstructing the house to inspect it before they would work on it. We ended up suspending $85,000 for $40,000 in improvements. Doctors have a lot more invested in their careers they don't take risks. As for the OP, I am hoping that Runaround Sue will research her options and realize she has the tool and doesn't need a revision. -
I gained back the weight after VSG
Sai replied to runaroundsue's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When I was living in NY last year, I wanted my band adjusted when I got to Texas, and they wouldn't make an appointment for me or anything because I was out of state, let alone a revision. -
I gained back the weight after VSG
Adriane replied to runaroundsue's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm from Roswell. I'm about to have my sleeve done by Dr. Illan in Tijuana. He does revisions. Great team. Great hospital and great price. You might want to check it out. Sent from my LGLS775 using the BariatricPal App -
Just got revision from sleeve to bypass!
engineer86 replied to StartingOverAfterCancer2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had a revision from sleeve to DS. I am 2 weeks out and have so much pain in my abdomen. They said give it a couple more weeks. Hope it changes because am miserable. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
I gained back the weight after VSG
runaroundsue replied to runaroundsue's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
He will consult with me regarding nutrition but not regarding a revision. His representative said they will only do revisions if you live in Dallas. Sent from my SM-G935V using the BariatricPal App -
I gained back the weight after VSG
ppressey24 replied to runaroundsue's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Dang, im sorry to hear this. Have you talked to any drz in NM to see if anyone does the revision surgery? Sent from my SM-N920V using the BariatricPal App -
How slow or different is Revision weight loss?
Christina.Rose posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I keep seeing people say lapband to sleeve revision patients lose weight slower than just sleevers. Im getting revised in December. Some questions I have for those people are 1.) Did you gain most or all of your band weight back before sleeve surgery 2.) How long did you stay significantly overweight before you decided on the sleeve 3.) How much did you lose on your pre op for the sleeve 4.) How much have you lost now and what month are you post op? Thanks in advance for filling out my questionnaire, lol. Sent from my SM-J700P using the BariatricPal App -
Just got revision from sleeve to bypass!
runaroundsue replied to StartingOverAfterCancer2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hi there, how are you feeling? Can you tell me about your experience with the revision? Sent from my SM-G935V using the BariatricPal App -
I gained back the weight after VSG
runaroundsue posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had a vertical sleeve done in 2012 by Dr. Kim in Dallas, Texas. I traveled from Albuquerque, NM to have the surgery. I have always been an emotional eater and my starting weight was 255. I am currently 243. The sleeve only restricted my eating for about 8 months and then it was all up to me. I got down to 189 and it was fantastic! Then about a year and a half ago the weight started slowly creeping back on. I am very disappointed in myself and I contacted Dr. Kim to ask about my revision surgery options but his staff told me that he won't revise his work if you live in another state. Has anyone had a similar experience or have any advice? Sent from my SM-G935V using the BariatricPal App -
Are revisions REALLY necessary?
Djmohr replied to Babbs's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
This is very interesting to me, since I also have RA/PsA. When we started discussing biologics, I asked my rheumy's opinion of WLS. She was enthusiastically behind it, citing WLS as many times reducing the inflammatory factors. However, she and my surgeon (and my research) all said that the bypass was NOT a good option for someone with auto-immune because of the complete contraindication for NSAIDs and steroids, where the sleeve only has a relative contraindication for those meds. Not criticising you or your docs, just find it interesting how there are so many differing opinions in the medical community. BTW, biologics are now off the table for me for the forseeable future. My inflammatory factors are down, and we still have dosing room on sulfasalazine and we haven't tried plaquenil yet. Mtx failed and I developed an allergic reaction to it, so at least I don't have to give myself chemo anymore! LOL. So the sleeve has worked amazingly well for me. Not remission, but meds are working better and we're able to avoid the real heavy hitters indefinitely. It is interesting how doctors differ in their opinions. I have autoimmune diseases as well. Medications really truly were the reason i packed on so much weight so quickly. I have Psoriatic Arthritis and hypothyroidism. At the same time, I had a very severe case of GERD causing me to cough every day all day for over a year with no solution. We had to heavily weigh the right choice of surgery for me. GERD is 100% resolved, issues with pain control for my joints are an everyday battle and I can not and will not risk taking any nsaids even with treatment. Because I have Psoriatic arthritis oral steroids are out as well as it kicks up the psoriasis so bad that it has caused serious infections that have caused me to be hospitalized over the years. I also never over ate. However, I ate crap all the time so i was actually malnourished while being morbidly obese. In fact my family and friends could not understand how i was so heavy because they saw how much i ate, they just did not realize that all the carbs were killing me. Anyway, since bypass I am still on biologics (Stelara) and Cyclosporine to keep my Psoriatic arthritis under control. It has been well controlled for the last 2 years so we have slowly be reducing the quantity of those medications. We tried lowering the dose of Stelara over a year ago and I went into a full on several month episode so we increased it back to where it was. We are discussing trying a reduction again in the spring as everything looks like it is going into remission. That being said, anytime i have surgery it seems to kick back up again so we are going to wait until after my plastics in January to try again. The biggest thing about having WLS is the head game. You have to change the way you live and learn to make better choices. I think for the most part i have done this well. Of course there are times when i indulge but 90% of the time, I do have to fight with my head. In the beginning, it was easier for me because even if i did indulge, the weight still came off. Now that I am two years post op, those decisions matter. I will gain or lose based solely on my behaviors. I believe this MUST be true of anyone going through or that has gone through WLS. Yes, some people will lose slower than others - I was one of them. It took me 18 months to lose my excess weight and alot of hard painful work to actually get there. Others have lost their weight of similar proportions within the first 12. I am sort of glad it took me longer, and took me understanding that I am now in the drivers seat, not my pouch. What i choose to put in my body and how often will dictate whether i lose, gain or maintain. If i choose to get no exercise at this point, it will and does have an impact on whether i lose, gain or maintain. I am in the drivers seat......not my surgery. The sooner some people realize this there will be less need for revisions in my opinion. Of course, I am NOT referring to those that have a equipment failure. I personally feel that a surgeon that is considering a revision for those persons who failed to lose the weight (not by malfunctioning equipment/surgery) really do need to see someone to assist with why they have not lost the weight. There is a nurse in my doctors office who had bypass surgery at the same time i did. I know this because she told me and seemed almost upset that I lost all of my weight and she has lost very little. She immediately blamed the surgery for not working. Then proceeded to tell me that her schedule simply did not allow for her to focus on herself so she is unable to get the right Protein and even fluids in her body. She skips meals and then eats whatever is handy in a few minutes in between patients. Ok, that is not the surgery failing, clearly she is still following the same behaviors she was before surgery. Dont get me wrong, I get it....she is taking care of patients. But, there comes a time when we have to be selfish and focus on ourselves if we want to be successful in the end. I literally started taking care of everyone else but me from the time I was 16 years old. I was a working married mother of 2 by the time i was 19 going through a horrible marriage. By 22 I was divorced and a single mother working 3 jobs just to make ends meet. By 25 i was remarried to my wonderful hubby of 29 years and working a high paying very stressful job. I did so well in my career and became the primary breadwinner. Well, then there was the stress of that so again, not taking care of me just working like a crazy person. By the time i was 51 i was in big trouble health wise and was literally told, i would end up in kidney failure soon if i did not lose weight. So, it was time for me to be very selfish and start taking care of myself. For the last two years, I have been focused on my health and well being and when you are morbidly obese, that is a necessary part of getting your health back. So, i say again......your head really has to change in order to be successful. It is why they send you for physch evals before this surgery. I honestly think they could do a better job of assessing patients and setting them up with the right people to help them through the mental part of WLS. Most of us need some sort of help. -
Dr MICHEL GAGNER, Montreal, anyone? need reassurance before i take the plunge!
Shell Renewed replied to shimmer's topic in Weight Loss Surgeons & Hospitals
@@Travelher I'm not certain about revisions as that is a special case. For the initial vsg, there are many great experienced doctor's but not only is Dr. Gagner experienced, he literally is the one who pioneered the current surgery we all get (keyhole/larcascopic vsg) and there are many medical periodicals and references that attest to it. If it's experience (in addition to competence) that someone wants, it doesn't get any better. Among many online references this is one: If you look up medical procedures you can see he's done a lot of pioneering in the field, though his website's own bio sums it up most succinctly https://cliniquemichelgagner.com/en/clinique-michel-gagner -
Band to Sleeve people, how was your recovery?
cjorndorf replied to Sai's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm entering day 5 of recovery of my revision. Banded 11-2008, sleeve 11-15-16. I feel amazing, almost like I never had surgery, my incisions are starting to itch a lot so that's my reminder, lol. I was off prescription pain meds on day three. I can drink 64oz of Water a day and get in 60g Protein. I don't feel hungry. I feelin like I it's going to be the best thing I ever did. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Just got revision from sleeve to bypass!
Missbeauty16 replied to StartingOverAfterCancer2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I will be having my revision on the 22nd of November from lapband to bypass! I'm so nervous! Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App -
Just got revision from sleeve to bypass!
sassyzette replied to StartingOverAfterCancer2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Yes I had my revision done Monday. I will be following to hear other people thoughts on it Sent from my SM-N920P using the BariatricPal App -
Im officially 5 months post op!! Down 70+ lbs with 40 to gooooooo. But i don't think I want to lose another 40 anymore Maybe another 15 or 20... Wanted to drop a few pics...Sorry they are sideways!!! I don't know how to fix SW 253.6 CW 182.4 GW 135-140 (40-45 MORE lbs to go more) Revised goal weight 160-165 (20-25 more lbs to go) Pic #1 is me last night before i went out #2 me last month 4 months post op. At the amusement park with my fam #3 is me and my puffy face on my bday last year. my aha moment that something had to change #4 me and another night out pre surgery #5 me again on my birthday full body
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Just got revision from sleeve to bypass!
StartingOverAfterCancer2 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hello all, I am 2 days post-op from a bypass and I just got home from the hospital today. Has anyone else had a revision from sleeve to bypass? Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App -
I almost have a surgery date but don't know which surgery is right
Travelher replied to Hollyhock's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I did a revision from a band to bypass. I chose bypass because it is tried and true and been around for decades and is successful. The sleeve was my backup plan because scarring might have prevented a bypass. I was worried about the sleeve for me because I developed reflux with the band and I've read it can be an issue with the sleeve and did not want a third surgery. Thrilled I got my bypass -
Everything I've heard and read says revisions don't lose as quickly. Our bodies have already figured this out. Remember it is a marathon not a sprint
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Surgery Length & Unable To Do Laproscopic?
shedo82773 replied to LaLa Weez's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sorry my RNY was on July 2, 2013. My hubby's failed revision was in Sept of 2013 -
Thanks for the encouragement. I had the sleeve done in 2013 and lost 130 lbs and had my revision on Oct 26 and only lost 11 lbs but I did lose 6 lbs of Water weight after the surgery. Not gonna give up still have another 100 lbs to lose. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Does anyone regret having surgery?
shedo82773 replied to katragina's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Gosh that just doesn't sound good. Is it possible for you to go to another doctor or clinic to get a second opinion? It really does sound like something is amiss. Are you able to eat anything? I don't know who else to go to. This is supposedly a center of excellence and I know of no other places who do these surgeries in the area. I've thought of just going to the closest ER to me and see what they do. I only eat when I feel for sure hungry. That's no more than once a day usually. A teaspoon or two at a time. When I went into the doctor this week he told me to focus on hydration and not eating. I'm going back to work on Monday and don't see how I'm going to have energy with no food. I'm going to leave a message with the doctor today and see what they say. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Gosh that just doesn't sound good. Is it possible for you to go to another doctor or clinic to get a second opinion? It really does sound like something is amiss. Are you able to eat anything? I don't know who else to go to. This is supposedly a center of excellence and I know of no other places who do these surgeries in the area. I've thought of just going to the closest ER to me and see what they do. I only eat when I feel for sure hungry. That's no more than once a day usually. A teaspoon or two at a time. When I went into the doctor this week he told me to focus on hydration and not eating. I'm going back to work on Monday and don't see how I'm going to have energy with no food. I'm going to leave a message with the doctor today and see what they say. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Just a word here....I also had a Center of Excellence Dr and Hospital. He was a great Surgeon but he lacked something in the bedside manners. My hubby almost died after they tried to do a Revision from his Band to a RNY. I had Strictures and he acted like I was a huge bother. He dropped my hubby right smack down the middle told us to take him to our PCP or the ER. Neither could do anything!! He called us "PROBLEM CHILDREN"!!!! My hubby had to find another Dr to take him on to get a WOUND VAC put in. He was deathly sick for 9 months and 3 of them he doesn't even remember. I was told that it was hard to get another Dr to clean up after another. I finally fired him and went to another Center of Excellence and was accepted right away!! My point is just because they have those Credentials does NOT mean they are a good DR. I also found out that he got paid a certain blanket amount to pay from the 1st visit thru the surgery!! But I can tell you this he still billed both of our insurance for each time he saw us. He wanted to follow my journey for the first 5 years, they document everything that happens so it makes them look good and receive the CENTER OF EXCELLENCE!!! As soon as we started having problems he wanted to X us out. We made his program not perfect. So MAM you do have options, even if he has the Certificate your health is worth so very much more than his Certificate. -
Are revisions REALLY necessary?
shedo82773 replied to Babbs's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hummm, but if the revision was made because of GERD or complications and the revision fixed these issues - isn't that a success in itself? The OP wanted thoughts on someone elses post in another forum. She also added her own and they included special circumstances. I would imagine that they would be mechanical problems etc. As for my opinion, I hope everyone gets a good understanding of what they are about to do to their bodies and the requirement of their minds. The surgeon will help with the mechanics, but the mental part is totally up to each and everyone getting wls. If you're not able to change your relationship with food, any amount of surgery won't help in the long run. Well, with the exeption on having your mouth sewn shut... And again, if there is a mechanical problem (slippage, gerd...) with your first wls, I'm absolutely for revision, if it is a viable option. It's a touchy subject and I hope everyone gets surgery without complications and gather the emotional strength they need, before the surgery, to change their lives. Nilla Funny thing here...I had a freind that had her jaws wired shut because they broke it during the removal of her wisdom teeth. She had stuff like chicken and homemade noodles whisked up in the blender. She sucked it thru a straw between her teeth!! So I'm sure if someone wanted to eat with their jaw wired shut it CAN be done. LOL Funny stuff. I was afraid she uld choke to death.wo -
Are revisions REALLY necessary?
gpmed replied to Babbs's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
For me personally, I believe I received a tried and true WLS method when I had RNY. It's been proven to work. If I ending up gaining back so much weight that I'd quality for WLS again, I will feel that I messed up big time. I can't say for sure what I'd do if I reached that point cause I'm not there, but I think I'd be too embarrassed to ask for a revision. I will have failed cause of me, not the surgery. However, I disagree with the quote about the lap band. My hospital stopped performing that surgery more than a year ago because it just doesn't work well enough for enough people. So if someone had RNY or sleeve gastronomy after a band, I'd see them as getting the "right" surgery this time and not fault them so much for the first one not working. If they failed to change their habits so that RNY or sleeve didn't work, THEN I'd say it's on them. Just my $0.02.