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Recent Observations: Reverse Behavioral Conditioning
smc124 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I’m at about a month post sleeve and beginning my third week incorporating solids. I had recent observation that found so interesting I thought I would share. I’m someone who for as long as I can remember found the feeling of a full belly to be comforting both physically and emotionally especially during colder seasons or in the evenings. Not necessarily overfull, but that feeling associated with just eating a decent sized warm meal. Since my gastric sleeve surgery I’m sure it goes without saying that as I continue to incorporate foods into my diet the feeling of food in my stomach or occasional associated nausea is more often then not one of discomfort. Now in just three weeks time I’m realizing my prior draw to food consciously or subconsciously, to achieve that warm full belly comfort is quickly being reverse behaviorally engineered due the discomfort Ive felt with eating and a full belly post surgery. It’s quite interesting how this behavioral/emotional comfort that’s likely been a significant contributing obstacle in managing/maintaining my weight over my lifetime has been an unintended but welcomed casualty of my sleeve surgery. Has anyone else experienced similar?- 9 replies
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Classical/opera singing straight after surgery
Jeanniebug replied to Allycaterpillar's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I waited until about 4 weeks after my bypass, to begin lifting heavy things (85-pound bales of hay) and that was a mistake. I'm not a singer, so I don't know what kind of strain you will be putting on your abs. But, if it's anything like lifting heavy things, I wouldn't do it. -
Lapband removed, Sleeve don, still struggling
ChubbyChasersGirl64 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I've had lapband surgery in 2009, lost almost 100 pounds, band slipped, had it removed and had the sleeve in April 2021. Stalled at 40 pounds and now I'm trying Mounjaro. Its a miracle drug used for Type 2 Diabetes and is very expensive. Waiting for it to be approved for Weighltoss in order for it to be covered by insurance. I've got more to say, but I'm at work. Anyone have issues with sleeve and tried this medication? Anyone try Mounjaro or similar and whats their experience? -
Had an asthma attack, and they gave me a week's worth of prednisone. I think they gave me coated tablets that can be taken with it without food. No issues.
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I panicked when I didn’t lose weight the first week too. I had a hard time with any fluids the first few days and wasn’t really able to drink much of the protein until the 5th day. You can sip on it. Do try to get it down in 15 min. In the beginning the water was more important and with so so little hydration I mostly survived on rehydration, zero Gatorade. The 5th day post op I was able to get more of the protein in. The isoprene clear protein mix was a box help with that. Not nearly as thick and rich as the premier type shakes.
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Ditto with all the comments above. How many calories are you taking in daily? I, too, had no issues drinking, and I also had a lot of water weight gain due to the IV for a few weeks. It is normal.
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I agree with @SpartanMaker. It’s not uncommon for people to see no loss or even a gain after surgery because of the gas & fluids they pump into you. Some surgeons even say don’t weight yourself for a couple of weeks after surgery. I remember I weighed a good 2kgs more 48hrs after my gall was removed & I’d barely eaten. Was just bloated. For a lot of us who struggle with the shakes after surgery it’s because the taste & texture change to us & become unpalatable. Plus I wasn’t at all hungry or interested in food. PS - Congrats on your surgery.
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Yes, I have moderate to severe asthma and have needed to use oral steroids two times since my RNY. It can make you feel very awake at night. It does make water retention and hunger happen. I stay faithful to my plan and the extra weight comes off in a week. I hope you feel better and heal quickly!
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Spicy food after month and a half of gastric bypass
RossP18 replied to WallyAlvarez's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Honestly I'm 2 weeks in I have been trying small portions of salsa in my Broth and I been doing great so try little by little Sent from my SM-A516U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Cannot stand smell of majority of meat
pintsizedmallrat replied to Chopper1's topic in Mini Gastric Bypass Surgery Forum
This may be a stupid question but since this seems to be affecting your sense of smell...have you had COVID recently? Your sense of smell has a way of coming back in "phases" and I remember everything smelling weird for a few weeks after I had it. -
Post op day 1 vsg to bypass
catwoman7 replied to Dan1131's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
you'll be on a liquid diet for a couple of weeks, so you won't burst your pouch. And at some point you'll be able to drink water normally again - so no worries! Glad to hear everything went well! -
It could be either or. When I used the Depo shot a few years ago I was spotting for the 1st month, then no period until I went back to the pill. Before surgery in Nov I had not had a period for 9 months, one month post op got my period and less than 2 weeks later had it again, which the surgeon warned about. Sent from my SM-G960U1 using BariatricPal mobile app
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Stalls happen & they will break in their time. Think of them as your body being stressed (it’s going through a lot of change at the moment - surgery, weight loss, change of diet, etc.) & it just wants to shut the door & pull the covers over it’s head until it’s ready to deal with the changes & stress. You just need to ride it out. Don’t stress yourself or your body more. Follow your plan, meet your protein & fluid goals & your weight will start to drop again.
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NYU Langone or Advent Health?
catwoman7 replied to Z1018's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
another thing to consider is follow-up. At my clinic (and I'm sure most others), I had to go back after 2 weeks, 3 months, 6 months, and 12 months for follow-up appts. And then we're encouraged to go yearly after that (I do, but i don't think most patients do after the first year). Since it would be impractical to fly to NY for all of those, you'd have to make sure your PCP was willing to do that. And of course they don't know as much about the surgeries as a bariatric surgeon would. complications can happen, but they're pretty uncommon. I'm guessing the person you know who had issues was one of a handful of patients out of the hundreds they've had. I'm sure NYU Langone has probably had some that haven't turned out well, either. With some cases, it may not have even been due to anything the surgeon did. You can always check the reviews on each of the surgeons and see what people said about him/her. -
Has anyone experienced thyroid issues after your surgery? My surgery was on 12/2. For the past two weeks it feels like my thyroid is about to jump out my neck. I didn’t realize what it was until first thinking it was my heart rate. But after getting that checked it was on. However, I was sleep the other night and I kept feeling like something was beating quickly then noticed it was my thyroid. I didn’t take my thyroid medicine today. I was thinking it may need to be adjusted. I will also call my doctor to schedule an appt and I have a blood test that he ordered when I went to see him last week and the thyroid function test is a part of that. Anybody experience this? I’m on Armour thyroid 120mg for hypothyroidism.
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very common. Many women experience mood swings and/or screwed up menstrual cycles for the first few months after surgery. It's supposedly because estrogen is stored in fat cells, and it gets released during rapid weight loss. It'll stabilize once your weight loss slows down. It can take a few weeks or months.
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Thank you for your response, it does make a lot of sense that it can be water weight. I had a tonsillectomy 12 days prior to my revision so I've had LOTS and LOTS of IV and fluids in the past month. As far as tracking my intake, I am terrible at it and not "tracking my calories". My surgeon more so suggested tracking protein rather than calories. I am still very early on (4 weeks today), so I am not eating a ton. Every meal I try to make it protein (eggs, ground chicken, etc).
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I had a revision due to gerd back in August. I didn't really have any stalls but the first couple of weeks, I had Water weight (over 10 lbs) gain due to the IV fluids so that always appears to be a stall. It took over 3 weeks to get rid of all that water. I am guessing that is what you are experiencing right now or something similar. They told me that I won't lose as fast as the VSG but that was not the case for me. I was content at 160 lbs (post vsg weight) but I got down to 108 lbs after revision. I learned a lot of tools while I had my vsg, and they continue to work through the revision.If you gained weight with vsg, to continue losing after revision, your eating habits must change from when you had your vsg. Unfortunately, the surgery itself will not make you lose weight as faster than vsg. Statistically, it is more effective than vsg but not by much. Like the sleeve, it is an effective tool if used correctly. Are you logging your intake? What are your calories per day? If it is below what you daily expend, the weight will continue to come off and you can shrug those pesky stalls off.
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Sleeve to Bypass for Reflux
CeciliaInPNW replied to hayyouljkb's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had an upper endoscopy which showed esophagitis resulting from the GERD/reflux. I had been waking up with acid in my throat at night and was basically eating a very high fiber diet since fiber didn’t elevate my reflux. I had regained weight. I had to appeal my insurance three times to get them to approve my hiatal hernia repair and revision to bypass. My insurance spelled out the 6 or so reasons they would approve the bypass and I qualified for 1 of them (esophagitis). I had already been under the care of my doctors dietician since my sleeve (I continued to see her under my insurance after the first year that was included in my surgery package) so I did not have to do any further diet monitoring, and the process went pretty quickly. Just the few months it’s took for the insurance appeals. -
I had a 4 month long period when I started depo (13 week cycle). I spotted all through the first shot, and for a few weeks after the second, before it finally stopped. Have not had a period of any kind since (5+ years!). I've read that it is VERY common, and cycle changes after surgery probably don't help. Give it some time, keep in touch with your doctor, but it will likely resolve after your next shot.
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Hi there! I have been anemic all my life. I recently saw a hematologist at the suggestion of my dietician. My ferritin was at 3, and he immediately had me do iron infusions. He also discovered that I was severely B12 deficient. Has your doctor checked your other vitamins? I've been able to maintain (although its been 6 months) But what worked for me was the 5 infusions along with b12 shots. For the first 4 weeks the shots were weekly and now I am maintaining at 1 a month. Also, post surgery I am doing the iron melts with Vitamin C. I have more bloodwork in March to see if its sustained the levels. Lastly, I HIGHLY recommend a hematologist rather than a PCP/OBGYN. My PCP and GYN just kind of brushed it off and told me to take vitamins. The one that got to the bottom of the cause of my anemia was a Hemo.
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I had my bypass revision on 12/13/2022, my period came down a few days after. It has now been close to 4 weeks of it non stop. Some days it's bright, other days its brown but the one thing is that its been constant. Previous to my surgery I had a Mirena for 1 year, I had not had a period for over 10 months. The Mirena was removed in November, a few days later I got the depo shot. So my depo was fairly recent to my bypass. I called my gyno and she is not concerned at this point since there is no odor, pain or fever. Has anyone experienced this? Do you guys think its the shock of surgery? A mix of all the BC hormones recently?
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Thank you for your words of encouragement! Sorry about your reflux, I can definitely say that the revision has completely corrected that issue for me, I wish you luck and hope all goes well. As far as my protein intake, I think I have been managing fairly well especially last week. Since I knew I was going to overexert myself I upped my protein and even reached 100g a couple of the days. I am still early on so I am limited on what I can/cant eat and I am terrified of dumping so I have stayed away from carbs and sugar altogether.
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Balloon procedure 3 weeks ago and still feel sick
Tch replied to Monica1962's topic in Gastric Balloon Forum
I am 3 and half weeks in and am being sick every day. I particularly can't keep water down Anyone out there had the same.problem and got through it?? -
It's normal. Your body is adjusting, we all have gone through the stalls. Your body was probably in shock from the low calories and then walking Disney too.