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Stay away from most of the protein "bullets" and "shots" that you will see in stores and read about online. If you look closely at their ingredient list, you will see that they are made with "collagen" protein. These products are attractive to bypass patients because they contain very large amounts of protein in very small volumes - usually 3 to 4 ounces. The problem is that collagen protein is an incomplete protein (meaning that it is missing one or more of the nine essential amino acids that your body requires and cannot manufacture). In addition, collagen (aka "gelatin" protein) has a PDCAAS (Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score) digestibility score of 0.08. The PDCAAS has been adopted by the Institute of Medicine at the National Academy of Sciences, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and the World Health Organization as the standard for measuring all proteins. Proteins are ranked on a scale of 0 (least digestible) to 1 (most digestible). Whey, Soy, Milk, and Casein proteins all have a PDCAAS score of 1.0. All the protein in the world is useless if your body cannot digest it.
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How important is malabsorption in maintaining weight loss?
ready2B posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I've been researching the differences between the bypass and sleeve options and it gets really confusing! My understanding from most studies is that you can achieve comparable weight loss over the first couple of years with either. But, since I have such a long history of losing large amounts of weight and gaining it all back and more, I am really concerned about choosing the one which will give me the best chance of keeping the weight off for the rest of my life. So, from all I have read so far, the biggest difference between the way bypass works and the sleeve is, that although both restrict intake and hunger, the bypass also changes absorption. So - I assume this means that if I get to the point 3-4 years down the road where I can consume 1000 calories a day with either (which several sites suggested is typical), fewer of those calories will actually be absorbed with the bypass than with the sleeve. Is this correct? My biggest fear is that if I go for a long period of time eating less calories - which will happen with both - will there be a time when my body thinks it is in that starvation mode again and switches back to that horrible place of being able to gain weight at a much lower calorie level than normal. For example now, I might normally eat 1400 calories a day, but if I want to lose weight so I might eat 1000 calories/day for a few months. Then if I start eating 1200 calories/day, I gain all that weight back! Is there that same "diet rebound" with WLS in general or not? If not, why? And if so, is there less of that with bypass because your body just doesn't absorb as much ever again? -
How long till you can lay on your tummy?
Veronica_mm replied to FocusOnMeNow's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm 13 days out, still can't sleep on my sides : ( in had bypass not sleeve, but still can't sleep on my sides. Back only and it's sucks lol -
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Well, pain is very individual, and some people LOVE to talk about their pain way long after it is over. I have had bone fractures and other surgeries that were much more painful than gastric bypass. There is medication to help you. Childbirth is painful, too, but you soon forget the pain when you are holding a new life. Surgery gives you a new life and you soon put any pain/discomfort behind you. I was getting cold feet before surgery and told my PCP that maybe I should just try it on my own ....... again. She said the best words ever, "If you could have done it on your own, you would have by now." So true.
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I had my Laparoscopic RNY Gastric Bypass this morning at 7:30am and all I've been thinking since then is, how incredibly lucky and blessed that it all went so smoothly. I wish everyone's experience could be as great as mine has been. My insurance is great, had no issues getting approval. The surgery itself was straight forward. And, my recovery is going so well so far, even I am surprised. Pain is not bad. The worst pain has been in my back from lying down all day. So blessed. It should be so great for everyone. I went in for my consult weighing 229lbs, weight this morning was 217.5 thanks to 3 week pre-op diet (last week was liquids & veggies only). They only wanted me to lose 10lbs before surgery. Feeling no hunger whatsoever. Starting to feel a little gassy, but not horrible. I read on one of the threads someone recommended bringing a heating pad, which I did and it came in very handy. Chapstick is definitely a must. I've been sipping water and it's settling well. I never got hooked up to IV pain meds, but they did give me morphine at first. Went to liquid lortab at 1pm and did well with it. Not needing full dose, so that's a good sign. No nausea so far, which is a huge relief because I don't tolerate nausea well at all. I'm a big baby about it. But, I do wonder if that's a good thing long term. Fear of nausea will definitely keep me on track diet wise. So, we will see. Just wanted to share my experience to show how well it can go. Everyone is different, but there is reason to be optimistic. :-). Good luck to all you pre-opers! Can't wait to read about your experiences as well.
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ANY NOVEMBER SURGERYS FOR GASTRIC BYPASS!?
mrsmalivert replied to Missbeauty16's topic in Insurance & Financing
NOVEMBER 16! Sent from my SM-J320P using the BariatricPal App -
ANY NOVEMBER SURGERYS FOR GASTRIC BYPASS!?
Niko*Oreo replied to Missbeauty16's topic in Insurance & Financing
Insurance approved and surgery is set for November 30th. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Overeating since im gonna have surgery
oldoneyoungagain replied to Smilejoelle1's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Pretty much gave up all the good things that you all have mentioned. Diet Pepsi was my go to drink, but think I replaced it with more coffee, which has since turned out not to have been a good choice. But all this was three years ago when I was banded. Now I'm basically in the same boat. No band, nothing stopping me from eating what I want, when I want, etc. until I have bypass in about three months. I don't have will power, never have that is why I needed a tool to control my weight, but I'm pretty darn stubborn. So since I did lose weight with the band, I'll be darn if I put on any weight just to have to take it off again, so I still have to look and smell but don't dare touch. So please eat for me too, I miss Chunky Monkey, Java Chip my two favorite ice creams, any donuts, cream puffs, peach cobbler, German Chocolate cake, pizza, and yes the cheddar biscuits, and my list goes on, and on. Lol -
I researched the band in 2006, but never followed through with it after my first consult, which I'm glad. I then wanted the sleeve. My younger sister was in the process of doing pre-op testing for the sleeve, so we researched it together. I wanted the sleeve because It seemed less serious than the bypass and I liked the fact that there was less malabsorption issues. My friend in college also got the sleeve and lost over 100 and told me it was the greatest thing she ever did. My sister is two weeks post-op from the sleeve and loves it BUT.... 1) Found out my insurance won't cover any weight loss procedure except gastric bypass 2) Found out most people who get the sleeve end up NOT losing as much weight as they hoped for 3) I figured if I'm going to have a weight loss surgery, I want the BEST one out there with the best long term results, etc. Now After much research, I wouldn't have any other procedure done besides bypass
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:rolleyes:I hope she can get herself healed so that she can get treated for her weight--that would nip diabetes in the bud!! If you take the protein and vitamin supplement as the doctor directs, you won't have any trouble with malnutrition after surgery. Dr. Simon is really the best! My sister is not quite ready to pursue WLS. She had part of one foot amputated in April (diabetes) so she is still recuperating. She had a bypass about 30 years ago that had to be reversed. I think it was practically experimental. She ended up with such severe malabsorption issues she had to have it reversed and she gained back all the weight and more Not sure she would be candidate, but if she can get this wound healed she may be giving your doctor a call.
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I had a revision from Lapband to gastric bypass on Nov 11. I’m on liquids for two weeks but I’m so hungry and advice?
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I wonder, has anyone thought of a wig. They have the most beautiful wigs (not sure how to get one though) these days. I have to go to a wedding 9 months after Bypass. I HAVE to look amazing, no ifs or buts.
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Rockwood Weight Loss Center (Spokane, WA) Price List
Bethany Copley posted a topic in Insurance & Financing
Rockwood Weight Loss Surgery Center This is the total cost (minus two night stay in Deaconess Medical Center) for sleeve/bypass/lapband. They also require a bariatric psych eval (around $300), an EKG and labs. Some people might need more testing. These are not listed in cost, as you get them through PCP. Cost for sleeve is just under $7000. -
How much have you lost?
miss_smiles replied to sasa_maria's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am your exact metrics, female, 5’4 and 240. I just had surgery May 30th, I haven’t weighed myself yet cause hospital liquids and water weight, etc. but I’ll keep ya updated! My surgery was the bypass, -
How much have you lost?
jh94832 replied to sasa_maria's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Im 5ft 6 had the bypass 3 weeks ago and im down 33lbs x -
3 days post op and I feel worse...
gehibbs replied to ZeeWP's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
AGREED. I had revision to bypass on 9.04. You have to get the protein into your body. Shakes, scoops in water....whatever it takes. When you do that you will feel better..... -
I all the stars align and BCBS approves me for the sleeve, i'm praying for a November surgery date. Prayers please. I'm jumping through all the necessary hoops for someone with a 36 bmi and not an automatic approval. I'm halfway through my dietitian visits and waiting for all my test to get cardiac clearance. I hope one day soon, i can come back to this thread and share in the excitement with ya'll!
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Sorry about not being able to get your surgery done until August, but it’s great to see another November member, welcome!
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I'm hoping to be able to get my sleeve in November. My last check-in with my surgeon will be at the end of October, so it'll all depend on how soon insurance will get back to me.
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I may fall here - depends on insurance approval. Shooting for late November/early December. Feel like I’m in the very beginnjng. On week 2 of my supervised diet. It’s been hard. Next week will be much harder as I “flip” to protein drinks only for a week then “flip” back again for 2 weeks for protein, low-fat, low-carb.
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I know of someone who might be joining your November group and might be looking for some friends.
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I had previous surgery scars from years gone by. I had open surgery for my bypass. Seriously it is nothing to be worried about. In some ways it was easier - none of the post-laparoscopic surgery gas pain for example! And my recovery was real quick. I had gallstones last month - oddly enough after saying that too would have to be open - they did it laparoscopically!! In terms of recovery for the two - not much difference. Longer in hospital for the open bypass, a couple of nights sleeping in a recliner before I lay flat, but all up pretty ok...
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Hello post-ops!! Congrats to everyone!! Keep up the great job!! I'm a November 24, 2013 WLS. Seeking advise on what worked for you, did you get weak/fatigue and hair loss, Any suggestions!? My progress: WLS 11/14/13 5'7 Female 47yrs old. HW 268 size tight 20 SW 266 size 18 CW 233 size 14 GW 165 I'm averaging 2 lbs per week, no exercise due to knee injury/pain. Doctor is happy with my progress. I am too, my battle is to have enough energy to function upon getting up to get ready to drive to work and get through the day. Issues I've been experiencing feeling tired, fatigue and exhausted. I eat all my water/ meals/proteins/vitamins/biotin/omega fish oil and average 600 to 900 calories daily, try to eat more to get energy levels up, helps some days. I'm 3 months as of Friday 2/14/14 and I've started losing globs of hair especially after I shampoo. So I'm washing every other day. I was expecting this may happen, but so emotionally distressing and nerve wrecking to see it come out so much so quickly. I'm totally freaked out. Praying it slows down soon. Anyone else feeling exhausted and losing your hair?? When goes the hair loss stop?? Is it growing back??!
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How did you like Dr U? I am scheduled for gastric bypass with him.
