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Every surgeon has a different post-op diet. Luckily, my current surgeon's diet philosophy is similar to my own. My post-op was and still is a balanced diet with tons of fruits and veggies. After 8 weeks, the basics of my diet is to get my adequate protein, 7 to 13 servings of fruit/veggies a day, 20 to 50g good fat, and good carbohydrates (about 50% of my calories are from carbs).
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If you are burning 1600 calories, you should be consuming around 1200. If you work out that hard and eat as little as you are, your body thinks it's starving and it holds on to everything. You still want to consume less than you burn off, but you have to consume enough so your body knows it's not starving and will let the weight come off. For protein, try to stay in the 70-90g per day range. What do your fats, sugar, and carbs look like? Are you drinking anything carbonated? That can stretch the pouch, as well. How often are you eating and what kinds of snacks are you having?
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Had my 6 month post op appt on Wednesday. Went FANTASTIC, but still in this stupid stall. Officially 3 weeks on Wednesday. So so annoying. Really ready to have it break so I can get on with it. Have to get bloodwork done, but all vitals and stats look excellent. Happy with my progress and my NSVs and my improved health. My dietician told me to keep my calories between 1100 - 1200 per day and add 2 days of weight training to my workout routine. I was doing light weights and cardio 5 days per week and she said to add the weight training to the 2 days I'm not working out. She said my diet and drinks and Snacks are all good, the amount and frequency I'm eating are good. So hopefully this will help. Today was my first day doing it. This stall is just driving me nuts. She also said if I get to 5 weeks, it's considered a plateau at that point and not a stall anymore. And then there's different things I would need to do if I'm in a plateau. Hope it doesn't get to that. I know stalls are normal, but I haven't even lost 100 pounds yet, and I'm nowhere near my goal, so slowing down this much at this point is really frustrating. Just gonna keep on keepin on until the stall breaks and the scale makes me happy again.
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There isn't one diet. My program is very much about balanced eating, from early on. They have never said no carb or even low carb at any point in this process. Of course, they prefer better quality carbs, but they don't villainize a slice of bread. In fact, I just saw my nutritionist and described my normal breakfast, which involves a light English muffin. She loved it (because English muffins haven't expanded in size over the years like bagels and other items have) , and was baffled when I told her my PCP was aghast I was having an English muffin at breakfast. Honestly if I didn't have carbs (and that darn English muffin) it would be really hard to hit my calorie goals, which are also not as low as others might stick to (we just upped me to 1750, because I've been at 1500 and am working out at a lot at fairly high intensity but losing very slowly). I think we sometimes need to experiment, within reason, to determine what works best for us - physically and mentally. I know going carb free would not work long term for me, so I'm working on building better carb habits. Other people love going low or no carb, and their bodies respond. I think we need to be smart about how we go about things but also realize there are a lot of paths to success. It's about what works for our bodies and minds.
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k. i did ultra low carb (<25 NET g per day), aimed to get 60g protein per day and just let the fat fall where it may that kept me under a certain calorie level. I have no idea what diet that would called. maybe calorie-restricted-modified-Atkins-2?? ...but im going to say this (and i know there will be opposing positions to it!): beyond the initial drop in weight when going low-carb, in MY experience, macro makeup has little influence on long-term weight loss than calorie deficit does. try different tactics, and find out what works for YOU. not everyone will respond the same way to a particular "diet". Good Luck! ❤️
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There's also such a thing as not eating enough calories. It's possible that you're burning too many calories for what you're taking in, so your body is just hanging onto everything it can get. Burning 1600 calories a day and only getting 70 grams of protein, might not be enough. If you add weights, yes, you might gain weight. But, you'll lose fat and you'll get smaller.
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Are you tracking every single thing that you eat or drink? Calories can easily sneak up on us - one yummy cup of coffee can blow the whole day. What types of foods are you eating? Are you eating mostly protein? Are you getting enough protein? Are you portioning your plate? Eating all of your protein first, then the veggies, then lastly the carbs? Are you hitting your hydration goals? What kind of exercise are you doing? You said you burn around 1600 calories a day. Are you lifting weights? If not, you might want to add some strength training to your routine. You have some hormonal issues that could definitely be an obstacle. But, I wouldn't give up. The hormones will get figured out, eventually. And all the work you're putting in now, will set you up for a healthier way of living when they do get figured out.
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Hello, on Sept 14th I had a revision from the lap-band to the Gastric Sleeve. Pre-surgery liquid diet I went from 235 to 212 on the liquid diet for about 10 days. I have only lost a total of 2 pounds, and I am 7 weeks out. I am very frustrated at this point. I am doing everything I am supposed to be doing. I could walk a little more, but other than that I am only consuming around 800 calories a day. I am not comprehending the science of this. I burn around 1600 calories a day, so why am I not losing weight? I do need to mention that I am going through menopause and had to go off of my hormones for 4 weeks after surgery but have been back on them now for 3 weeks. I was also diagnosed with a under-active thyroid about 9 months ago and am on 25MG of thyroid medication. I am at the point where I just feel no matter what I do I am not going to lose. Has anyone else experienced no weight loss right after surgery and how long did it last? I am trying to stay positive, and everyone keeps telling me not to pay attention to the scale, but I am a numbers person. I absolutely dread going to my next dietician appointment in two and half weeks because my last one which was my first post op appointment, she told me I should be losing more than 2 pounds in one month. I guess I just need to know if others have experienced this. I am about ready to give up.
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Hello, on Sept 14th I had a revision from the lap-band to the Gastric Sleeve. Pre-surgery liquid diet I went from 235 to 212 on the liquid diet for about 10 days. I have only lost a total of 2 pounds, and I am 7 weeks out. I am very frustrated at this point. I am doing everything I am supposed to be doing. I could walk a little more, but other than that I am only consuming around 800 calories a day. I am not comprehending the science of this. I burn around 1600 calories a day, so why am I not losing weight? I do need to mention that I am going through menopause and had to go off of my hormones for 4 weeks after surgery but have been back on them now for 3 weeks. I was also diagnosed with a under-active thyroid about 9 months ago and am on 25MG of thyroid medication. I am at the point where I just feel no matter what I do I am not going to lose. Has anyone else experienced no weight loss right after surgery and how long did it last? I am trying to stay positive, and everyone keeps telling me not to pay attention to the scale, but I am a numbers person. I absolutely dread going to my next dietician appointment in two and half weeks because my last one which was my first post op appointment, she told me I should be losing more than 2 pounds in one month. I guess I just need to know if others have experienced this. I am about ready to give up.
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Going on 3 weeks in this stupid stall
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My dietician told me to keep my calories between 1100 - 1200 per day and add 2 days of weight training to my workout routine. I was doing light weights and cardio 5 days per week and she said to add the weight training to the 2 days I'm not working out. She said my diet and drinks and snacks are all good, the amount and frequency I'm eating are good. So hopefully this will help. This stall is driving me nuts. She also said if I get to 5 weeks, it's considered a plateau at that point and not a stall anymore. And then there's different things I would need to do if I'm at a plateau. Hope it doesn't get to that. I know stalls are normal, but I haven't even lost 100 pounds yet, and I'm nowhere near my goal, so slowing down this much at this point is really frustrating. -
November 2022 Surgery Buddies
KimA-GA replied to Crystal Leifheit's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
i bought the fruity pebble protein powder and one scoop in the morning that made me feel like i had a naughty bowl of fruity pebbles in the morning without the sugar or high calories… satisfied me greatly. -
This isn’t an easy question to answer because we have different needs & we are different people. I was at my goal at 6 months but kept losing as I struggled to eat enough at first to slow the loss. My surgeon told me to work up to about a cup of food by maintenance & I guess that was pretty true but it did depend on what I was eating as some things were more filling - still the same now. I was barely eating 900 calories at 6 months & then about 1300 when I stabilised at about 15 months. I eat about 1400 now & generally eat about or a bit less than what would be considered a recommended serving size. Someone taller, younger, more active than me, heavier than me & with a larger frame would need to eat more & vice versa. And of course the foods you eat also okay a part. I’m a low processed make it myself person, eating lower carbs, very little sugar, lowish fat. Have you spoken to your team about the foods you struggle with? What do you mean by struggle - make you feel sick, feel your restriction, sit heavily, taste, etc.? Is it a specific food/s, food group or any food randomly? Can you relate it too how much you eat, how fast or even when you eat? (Sounds odd to ask about time but for example I have difficulty eating breakfast before 8:30/9am.)
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You may not want to hear this but this may not be a stall. This may be your body’s set point (the weight your body is happiest at & is easiest to maintain) and/or you’ve reached a point where your food intake is equivalent to what your body needs (burns) to function. Not everyone gets to the goal they’ve chosen. The average weight loss after three years is about 60/65% of the weight you had to lose to put you in a healthy weight range. Have a chat with your dietician & review your eating plan & activity. Though if you decrease your calories & increase your activity to lose those last 10lbs you will have to maintain that to remain at the lower weight. Only you know if that is sustainable.
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My last stall lasted 5 of the longest, most frustrating weeks ever. Now I am at a lower weight, losing it is so much more difficult. I am eating more calories, about 900 to 1200 a day and having limited exercise is making my weight loss tough going. I knew this would happen sooner or later but it's still damn annoying. We cannot tell what your weight is so we would find it difficult to help you, but many say that it's really hard to get to our ideal set point. Our bodies just don't want to give up the last bits of fat. Some on here have managed to get to 'gold medal' stage but many have had to admit defeat at silver. We are all winners in my eye if we can keep our lost weight off My team think I will lose slowly for another 6 or 7 months. Then I can consider plastic surgery on my old saggy bits. TBH, I have lost more than I ever dreamt I could. So, vary your diet as much as possible and keep going until you cannot do one damn day more !
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September surgery buddies!!
Leo segovia replied to Slwhurst's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hey I am also with low energy. I set up fitness tracker to help me view my nutrition and calories. It does help educate me and keep me on track. I m also on a higher amount of protein. I make a large shake with 4 scoops. It gives me 104 g of protein. And drink it as I need to during the day. Once I switched to this one I feel better energy and no guilt because no sugar. Hope this helps. It works for me. But double check with your nutritionist. Best wishes and keep healthy. -
I agree with @GreenTealael 100%. Your bariatric team is in the best position to help. We here on the forums really know nothing about you. To start with, your profile isn't filled out, so we don't even have basic info. Beyond the basics like starting weight, goals weight, current weight, age, gender, and height, I'd ideally need to see your food log, and would have your percentages of body fat and lean mass. Finally, I'd want to understand what you mean by "I work out 6 times a week for over 50 mins". Exercise type and intensity make a ton of difference here. Even those things might not be enough though and that's where your bariatric team can help. There is one universal truth if you're not losing weight: You are eating about the same number of calories as you're burning. Without some potential metabolic and endocrinological testing that your doctor can do, it would be hard to know if this is due to Eating more than you think Burning less that you think in exercise A slow metabolism due to the loss of lean body mass Maybe even a hormone imbalance As pointed out, the simplest place to start is making sure your are logging your food accurately. It's really easy to be off by several hundred calories and this can easily be enough to make a huge difference in how much you lose.
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Lucky you. It will be harder when you have no restriction. It's essential that you use this period to learn how to eat differently and continue to hold the line. I lost half of my weight-loss prior to surgery. Because of complications, after my RNY>RNY revision surgery I had three endoscopy procedures which stretched my pouch and anastomosis. After a few weeks I had very little physical restriction. I've had to work very hard to eat differently and continue to lose weight. My post surgical loss is now equal to what I lost prior to surgery, and I struggle every day with cravings. I need to keep my calorie count in the area of 1000-1200 per day. I eat almost no sugar, flour, white potatoes, rice, or processed foods. But--it's worked and I will continue to do this for life, recording every morsel in my (Baritastic). app I know that as soon as I start to return to old eating habits I will regain what I have lost. It's hard work, but so worth it. Hang in there!
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Current recommendations vary a bit, but most suggest that to lose weight and prevent re-gain, 250 to 300 minutes of moderate physical activity per week are needed. Of that, at least 150 to 180 should be aerobic activities such as brisk walking, running, swimming or bicycling. Moderate by the way, is defined as attaining a heart rate of 50-70% of your max heart rate. The easiest way to estimate you maximum heart rate is to subtract your age from 220. For example, if you are 50, your max heart rate would be 170, so 50% to 70% of that would be 85 to 119 BPM. In addition to the aerobic activities, strength training should be included. The recommendation would be to perform 2-3 sessions per week for 30-60 minutes. Detailed recommendations are beyond the scope of what I can add here. For beginners, bodyweight training would be my recommendation. Doing so you'll be at a much lower risk of injury and IMO, bodyweight training should be the foundation of all other strength training. Google "bodyweight training for beginners" and you should see some recommendations. Just make sure the website is from a reputable source. there are lots of "fads" out there and some of them could be harmful. The reason strength training is so critical is that muscle is significantly more metabolically active than fat. By gaining muscle, you'll actually increase your overall metabolic rate, meaning you'll burn more calories even when you're not exercising. This means you'll be better able to lose weight or maintain weight at a higher overall number of calories than you would otherwise. In addition, strength training can help you age gracefully by reducing the risk of osteoporosis, improving mental acuity, improving balance and physical functioning, and helping manage pain. Finally, in addition to the aerobic and strength training recommendation, I also think it's a good idea to participate in functional fitness that helps improve balance, coordination, and flexibility. There are lots of options here, but yoga and tai chi are good choices if you need recommendations.
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I would go right back to my surgeon and ask what’s next. It could be a combination of seeing nutritionist and therapist, therapist and drug intervention, drug intervention and diagnostic tests, etc. If you haven’t asked your team for help yet, that’s where you may want to start. Until you get some professional guidance you can try to *meticulously* track your food and drinks. It’s amazing how problematic guessing calories can be to progress. Don’t give up and good luck ❤️
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Able to eat without a probably 2 weeks post op
Tomo replied to victoria0322's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I was the same way with both the vsg and after my revision to rny. Usually people post if they have problems. When things go so smooth, we just talk calories... Etc. You're doing great. -
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Tomo replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Tofu Shirataki tonkotsu noodle soup (150 cal), 2 Chinese sausages (45 cal each, air fried first) and napa cabbage and Korean pepper to make it spicy. Soup helps me with hydration, and it's delicious and low calorie & filling. Here the kit, it comes with two servings. I always add things to it like an eggs, proteins, veggies... Etc. https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.960528886.html -
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Starwarsandcupcakes replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
How this salad came out to 500 calories is insane! I’m blaming the quorn meatless nuggets (vegetarian not vegan as they have egg whites in them). Even so, I’m at 1300 calories for the day even with “ice cream” for dessert. -
Well I actually did a lot of research and it turns out it doesn’t matter when the dr checks your levels, if it’s over 200 you are diabetic whether you have eaten anything or not. It’s a random test and it’s listed on that CDC link you sent me spartanmaker. (And Thank you for that by the way it was very helpful). I did the test today and they said he was looking to see if it was over 140 though which would point to the possibility of pre diabetes but it wasn’t even close. It was 114 after eating worse than I have since my surgery so I’m definitely not diabetic. I also did my labs this morning which included three thyroid tests so maybe something will come of that. If not, I did ask him for a referral to an endocrinologist to make absolutely sure nothing has been missed. He said if my thyroid labs are good he would be inclined to agree with the surgeons that is my bipolar meds making me eat more but seeing an endocrinologist couldn’t hurt for my peace of mind. I have to admit when she gave me the very positive results that I am not diabetic I felt a little let down just for a second. Of course I don’t want a diabetes diagnosis but I AM very much desperate for an answer. Some answer. It’s just so darn frustrating. I just feel like such a failure that I went through with this huge invasive surgery and I am gaining it back. I think I am most annoyed with myself for not asking more questions and pursuing more tests BEFORE I did surgery. I guess what’s done is done though and I just gotta keep trying. I did lose two pounds before my big high calorie meal today. That’s something I guess. Lol
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Fitbit or MyFitnessPal questions
SpartanMaker replied to Tomo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So I think the answer is... It depends. If you take the MFP recommended calorie counts, it should ask you if you wish to adjust your calories down for every 10 pounds you lose. If you miss changing it when it asks, you can always change it later yourself. (Though see below, as you may now be in "manual mode".) If you don't take the recommended calorie numbers and use your own numbers, then this "manual mode" won't ever ask if you you wish to change it. It says the same until you change it yourself. As far as Fitbit, if you have MFP and Fitbit linked, calories burned should be adjusted down as you lose weight. When they're linked, Fitbit should pick up your weight from MFP and will use that as part of their calculations. FYI, it bases the calories burned on heart rate, as well as height, weight, sex, and age. It might be a good idea to double check your fitbit app to make sure it's showing your latest weight. I have seen them get out of sync for some reason? Keep in mind that it's up to you if you want to add in those exercise adjustments from Fitbit to your MPF calories or not. You can change a setting to add them, or ignore them. I normally don't add them in since I think it overestimates calories burned, but the counter argument is that by adding them in, you give yourself permission to eat more on days when you really need to. For example, if you had a hard workout, or really active day. -
This is hard. I also realize now how much I was eating and am sort of disgusted by it, but I really try NOT to project that on other people. First off, I don't know where I will be in another year or two or four. I hope I will continue to use my tool properly, but I may not, and then I am just being judgmental and a hypocrite. Second, to the point @ms.sss made, I didn't like when people commented on my food intake before surgery, so why should I do that to others unless they ask for advice? All those comments do is make people defensive or sad or angry, and often leads to people doubling down on what they are doing, perhaps getting depressed and eating even worse, and often being afraid (when they are ready) to ask for help. Lastly, it's not like I have been the paragon of weight virtue for 40+ years of my life, so I am not exactly well positioned to tell other people what to do just because I've had some success now. I try to be very honest about my surgery (personally I think it is important to combat the stigma around surgery and obesity) and what it has helped me with, but I try to make it about me, and what changes it made for me, without commenting or directly connecting to their actions. There are ways to support people positively without saying things outright: making lower calorie/healthier options for family gatherings, engaging them in fun active activities, etc. A bit of leading by example, without saying something directly. I know this is hard - my Greek extended family is obsessed with food! I try to steer them toward not needing to have so much for the holidays (2 desserts instead of 5, for example) or making one of the options something healthier, but you have to be careful to not make people completely tune you out. It's counterproductive.
