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Everything posted by willowcat
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July 2009 Mile Challenge
I ride my exercise bike for 1/2 hour each day--it's usually 6 miles. 6X30=180 Can I join you with an altered goal--or should I try to find a different challenge?
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Weight gain! What The!!!
I named my scale, "Cruella"--like the mean lady in 101 Dalmations--because it can be so cruel. I used to be a scalaholic (multiple times a day!). I quit weighing and didn't weigh for years (I don't recommend that--it's too easy to delude yourself and not "notice" that you're gaining weight!). Now that I've been banded, I'm trying to weigh only once a week--though I don't like that either--it puts too much pressure on that one day. Maybe twice a week? I agree that as long as the general trend is downward, then daily fluctuations aren't worth my attention (yeah, that's what I'm thinking--now if I could only get my emotions to catch up).
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how long til normal activity?
I started riding my exercise bike after 2 weeks, but I still haven't gone back to water aerobics yet (too much bouncing of my stomach--it hurt my port), and I'm almost 4 weeks out. I'm still protective of my stomach muscles and still don't lift or try to move heavy things. If you can instruct while not moving a lot--tell, not show--then IMO expect two weeks out or three just to be on the safe side. You want to give your body time to heal all that internal stitching before stessing it too much. And of course, follow your surgeon's directives--give his office a call and see what he/she advises. Good luck.
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Fasting
I know you feel desperate. You want the weight to be gone--yesterday! I want that too. I don't know how many times I have wished that I could magically turn into the person/shape I wanted to be. But even though you're feeling desperate, I don't think you should fast. Your body's metabolism really will come to a halt--nature designed it that way to save you in the event of a famine. In my youth, I fasted for at least a week (I don't know if you know this, but it can be very dangerous to come off a long fast if you don't do it correctly). The only thing that fasting jump starts is your ravenous appetiite. On a fast, you may lose weight, but when you go back to eating you will eat like you'll never eat again--because that's what your body thinks--and to top it off you will have a slower metabolism trying to deal with all of those extra calories. Guess what happens then? Weight GAIN! :thumbdown: Trust the experience of those who have gone before you. Exercise even if you don't see results--exercise and muscle gain actually speed up your metabolism. Finally, let me suggest that you try therapy (or even OA--it's basically free--I went to Overeaters Anonymous for three years. I didn't lose weight, but I did learn a lot about how I used food for so many things other than nourishment). You'll want to learn and understand how it is that you use food. Every person has different ways/reasons that they use food (boredom, anxiety, control, protection, sadness, stress relief...). Do the work to find out what's unique to you and your relationship with food. Good luck to you.
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Anxiety
My therapist at my psych evaluation has had bypass surgery. She told me two things that I keep reminding myself of. She said, 1.There will come a time when you WILL think to yourself "What have I done?!" 2. You have to approach exercise like you do your job--you don't always "feel" like going but still you do. I had the "What have I done?!" and sobbing around my fourth day post-op. I didn't particularly like my therapist from the psych eval, but I am glad she warned me about those thoughts and feelings--because when they came (like post-partum depression?) I wasn't so surprised and they didn't last long.
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200 lb loss photos
Wow! I bet you feel so much better moving around in your day-to-day living! Awesome! :thumbup:
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lap band books???
The Success Habits of Weight-Loss Surgery Patients by Colleen M. Cook isn't specifically about lapband, but still very helpful in realizing what changes you'll need to make in your life after wls. Cook had bypass surgery, but still all of her "success habits" are applicable to lapband. Her 6 Habits are: personal accountability, portion control, nutrition, fluid intake, regular exercise, vitamins and supplements. She says that these principles "are the results of years of research of long-term wls patients." You can buy it on Amazon.
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HUNGRY at night!
For the past week or so (I was banded on the 4th) I've been waking up in the middle of the night with pain in my back between my shoulder blades and near my spine. It felt the same as the surgery gas pains so I thought it had something to do with gas. But Gas-ex didn't work. A bit of warm Water seemed to help a little. I thought maybe that I was eating too late at night so I changed that--still getting woken up. I thought it was acid reflux maybe so tried an acid reducer--no change. I got worried it was my gallbladder--but I don't have pain on my right side or under my right shoulder. Plus it ONLY happens in the middle of the night. Last night I thought it might be hunger pains radiating to my back. Sure enough--I had 8oz of milk right before bed and I slept all the way until 4:00am (longest stretch of sleep in about a week) until I was woken up with the same back pain. I got up and ate a low-fat cheese stick and SF Jello. The back pain left by the time I got back in bed and I slept through the rest of the night! Weird! I am going to mention the back pain to my surgeon this Wednesday just to be on the safe side. Anyone else experience unbearable (I guess when you can't sleep from the hunger pain then it's "unbearable") hunger at night?
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Banded June 4th - Questions
I was banded June 4th too. Thanks for this posting 3LAURIE8! Isn't it kind of funny how easy it is to feel as if you're the only one experiencing something?! I've also noticed that the amount of food I can eat has been slowly creeping up and up. I've still been eating good food (no pasta or icecream or cereal--my faves!) just more of it. I'm glad that my stomach's swelling has gone down and that now I'm feeling pretty normal, but with "normal" comes Hunger. I have nothing in my band, but am getting my first fill next Wednesday. I hope that helps. Like lbndoc said, "it's by sheer willpower" that I'm eating small amounts--but only because I'm back to measuring food. I feel like I'm hanging on by my fingernails. At least now, though, there is an end in sight. Nice to hear from other early June bandsters.
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melasma (brown patches on face)
I got melasma (brown patches on my face--also called the "mask of pregnancy" because some pregnant women get them) about two years ago. I'm a faithful sunscreen user (spf 85) because the brown patches are sun-sensitive, and I've tried bleaching cream from the dermatologist, but all to no avail. I hate those brown patches. My doctor said that they are related to PCOS (which I haven't been officially diagnosed with--I just have the symptoms--my doctor says that I "probably" have PCOS). Next to wanting to be thin/normal weight, I really want to get rid of the melasma. I've been banded since June 4th and am full of hope. Has anyone had melasma improve or go away after losing weight? It's good to read on other threads here that the facial hair improves in color and texture. Now, if only the brown patches go away, things will definitely be looking up! :biggrin:
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Bandster Hell AND Surgeon Hell
Take your band away?! And how does he propose to do that?! You'd have to go through everything for surgery to remove the band just like you did in order to get the band--not to mention pre-approval from your insurance company (like that would happen just because you gained 2 lbs.)--AND it's YOUR body--he can't make you go through surgery! What a bully (and an A**Hole)! Bad man, very bad man. Christy, I'm glad to hear you're getting another doctor. Give him hell at that "exit interview!"
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emotional tsunami
Kristine, What a nice, gentle, supportive, and upbeat response--thanks for your post! Have you been to the June Journeys social group yet? Hope to see you there.
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Help!! I need a colorado springs fill doctor!!
I live in Colorado Springs and was banded by Dr. Scott Fisher with the Colorado Springs Surgical Associates. Colorado Springs Surgical Associates is part of the Penrose-St. Frances Hospital system. They have two locations: Colorado Springs Surgical Associates 2222 North Nevada Ave Suite 5017 Colorado Springs, CO 80907 719-635 -2501 St. Francis Medical Center Office Location 6011 E. Woodmen Road Suite 345 Colorado Springs, CO 80923 Located in the Sisters Grove Pavilion Medical Office Building (719) 635-2501 I really, really like Dr. Fisher!
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emotional tsunami
Yesterday was my 8th day post-op. I was finally not feeling much pain, and I was able to feel very satisfied on the "mushies" food. So last night with my mind free from thinking about pain and/or hunger, I think I was finally able to pause and look my new life in the face--and I got scared! All my past diet failures came rushing at me. I was overwhelmed with fear that this would just be the next link in what is already a very long chain of high hopes and determination followed by eventual failure--and to top it off, look what I did to my body this time! I've gone as far as having surgery and having something placed inside my body! I've gone through all this and what a fool I've been to think that somehow this time would be any different than all the other times. The psychatrist at my psych eval had told me that eventually everyone has thoughts along those lines--I just didn't realize that it would be so soon for me. I cried and cried as I felt the cumulative pain of my lifetime of diet failures. It was so overwhelming. I think, though, that I needed to feel the pain of all of those disappointments--and not just the self-disgust I always felt when a diet failed--but the real saddness at the loss of each of those dreams. My husband helped remind me of all the people on here who have taken the weight off and kept the weight off--there really is hope and a chance for a real recovery. Still, I'm feeling cautiously optomistic right now...like I'm afraid to really, really hope for success.
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Is it self doubt?
My psychiatrist at my psych eval told me that I was going to have to treat exercise like I treat my job (where honestly I'm a bit of a workaholic)--I would never wait to "feel" like going to work--I may not feel like it, but I go because I have to. Work gets all of my energy. Now, having said that, I'm with you--I saved exercising for last and never had the energy for it--I really was truly exhausted from work. Now, what I'm trying to do is "pay myself first"--get up, get on the exercise bike in my pjs, do my exercise, and then start my day. That was pretty much working for me before surgery--I'm waiting for the inscissions to heal to start back up again. The real test will come in the fall when I go back to teaching--my goal this summer is to get the habit in place so it's not such a god-awful effort. Good luck.
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Losing weight, still hate my body.
oops! Lucky you--I'd kill to have an hourglass shape! Still, sorry you're not liking what you're seeing the mirror. Hang in there--you're half-way to your goal!
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Losing weight, still hate my body.
Blackcherry2002, You're "pear shaped"--you have narrow shoulders, smallish breasts, a small waist, and a large bum and thighs--right? One thing I've learned is that every body shape (except for maybe the "hour-glass" body) has it's own dressing challenges. You're quite young and who knows, after you've finished losing weight, you might find that your next step is liposuction and a lower-body resculpturing surgery. If surgery isn't an option, then you'll eventually have to make peace with the body shape you were given. Good luck and hang in there--you're half-way to goal!
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Feeling Weak...
Just another thought: are you getting enough water/liquids? Being dehydrated can make you feel very weak. My dr. says 64 oz. of fluid every day. I don't usually make it to 64 oz. but if I keep trying to, I at least get closer than if I didn't try. I was told to cut fruit juice (like white grape juice) in half with water--so it's not so sweet--lots of carbs and empty calories in juice! Also, when they say "clear liquids" right after surgey, I don't think it literally means "clear"--protien drinks are hardly "clear." It just means to stick to liquids until your stomach gets over the shock of banding. It's time to call your doctor if you don't start feeling better soon!
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Losing weight, still hate my body.
"Cellulite is caused by irregular patterns of connective tissue beneath the skin, and as the adipose (fatty) tissue, which forms in compartments of little honeycombs, pushes into the skin, it causes the dimpling of cellulite. It has been shown that people who have cellulite have different patterns of connective tissue than people who don't, and men tend to have this pattern much less than women. Cellulite is not directly a function of excess weight, but a genetic difference in the way adipose tissue and connective tissue form. In fact, cellulite affects people whether they are overweight or not. " Cellulite (like sh**) happens! Thank your great-great-great grandmother for her genes, and like the Serenity prayer says: Grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change; the courage to change the things that I can; and the wisdom to know the difference. Cellulite happens.
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130 pounds!
ColoradoChick, Thanks for adding to this thread as you went along. What a change you've made in 13 months! I'm 5'2" and was banded just three days ago on June 4th. My highest weight was 285, and I am looking to lose 150 lbs. I'm a few years older than you (46). I know you're not me and I'm not you, but with so many variables being similar, your story gives me a tremendous amount of hope (even your post in November when things weren't going so well--I will remember you when I go through my own version of November). I haven't been 135 lbs in 19 years! Good god but I hope my skin mostly snaps back.
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I Will Not Go Quietly Into Bandster Hell
Funny, I was thinking almost exactly the same thing just yesterday--thanks for saying it so well.
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Dr. Scott Fisher - banded 6-4 by dr. fisher
I really like Dr. Fisher and trusted him 100%. His bedside manner was warm and friendly. He came to see me before the surgery and also a few hours later. He's very easy-going and easy to talk to. I look forward to working with him for my fills. His office staff is also friendly and professional.
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"sensitive" stomach?
Thank you Jachut and Cleo's Mom--I will make sure that I talk to me surgeon about my concerns over my sensitive stomach, and if he's not concerned, then I won't be either. Thank you for your replies.
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sensitive stomach? and still ok?
I posted this on the complications board but thought I'd also appreciate feedback from people who haven't had lapband complications: For the past several years now, I've had what I call a sensitive stomach--if something doesn't set quite right and if it makes me feel sick, up it comes. I'm not "scarf and barf"-ing. It's just that sometimes when I get anxious or nervous or I'm in a big hurry (like right before running off to work), I'll feel yucky and I throw up. It's quick, painless, and I always feel better right away. Also, certain foods seem to calm my stomach while others agitate it and just don't seem to agree with me (for example, every protien drink with whey in it has had to come back up). Since lapband changes the configuration of the stomach, I've been worrying lately about my prognosis for success. Frankly, to ease my mind, I'd love to hear from anyone who's doing just fine--sensitive stomach and all! Thanks for your reply.
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Could I Need Counseling
Years ago, when I was at my thinnest (after nearly starving myself and losing 30 lbs in 6 weeks), I bought a denim mini skirt. That mini skirt attracted male attention--attention that I was not comfortable with! I unconsciously put on 5lbs--just enough that the mini skirt no longer fit--and then I felt a wierd sense of relief that I didn't have to wear that skirt again! Fat has some benefits that we often don't want to admit we're ok with: fat lets us be in the background; fat says I don't have to compete fashion-wise, sex-wise, friends-wise, work-wise; fat says I'm off the market sexually and will be a faithful wife; fat says I can get by with just being the funny one; fat says I'm motherly and nurturing; fat says I'll be the one that survives a famine; fat can make me feel larger that life; fat can make me feel protected and shielded...! Fat can bury so many emotions and protect us from ourselves and/or our pasts. As the weight comes off, we begin the excavation of our past selves, and that can be very uncomfortable. Yes, if you have access to affordable therapy, by all means do so! If you get help from reading, I would recommend anything by Geneen Roth (I might not have spelled her first name exactly right), The Dance of Anger (don't remember the author), and a book that I think is called, The Fat is in Your Head. We are all so much more than just our bodies. Good luck!