dreamingofasleeve

Had anyone who had the sleeve had dumping syndrome?
If so do you know what caused it?
This is a fear of mine post surgery.

Now I feel old [emoji23]
I'm excited to be post op. This process is taking forever but it will be worth it.

My dietician suggests that I have a glass a milk or yogurt 3 times a day instead of taking calcium

I had my WL surgery on 10/12/17. I just had surgery for kidney stones on 3/30/18. The kidney stone surgery was way worse than the sleeve surgery. I had ureterscopy surgery where they go in an laser the stones thru your urethra. I did pass one stone which was about 5mm and my doctor removed 2 other stones during surgery those were about 9mm each. I had to wear a stent after the surgery and on top of that I had an infection. My doctor wasn’t able to get all the stones because they were inside of my kidneys and she didn’t have access to them.

After all of this I did meet with my dietician for some advice. And she was able to give me some tips.

It’s really hard to manage your diet between the sleeve restrictions and kidney stone restrictions, but I am trying and I’m drinking all the Water I can.

This is what my stones were made up of:

40% Calcium oxalate monohydrate
30% calcium oxalate dihydrate
20% calcium phosphate
20% ammonium Acid urate

I did have kidney stones before my surgery but never stones this size or this many.

My Urologist told me to drink at least 100 oz of water and stay away from animal Protein. Although my dietician says I can have 6 oz or less a day of animal protein. So I guess I’ll see how it goes. I take another x-ray in June to see if I have any additional stones.

BTW most stones are Calcium. The others don’t happen frequently.

If you have high blood Calcium PLEASE see an endocrinologist and get your parathyroid hormone checked! That was the cause of my high blood calcium and stones.

I needed parathyroid gland surgery to correct it (NOT related to the thyroid, just nearby). It was left untreated way too long and I needed major surgery instead of minor and wound up with osteopenia from it.

I also have dealt with kidney stones prior to surgery. Not very far out from surgery. My urologist told me to only take calcium citrate as the Calcium carbonate increases kidney stones. You even have to watch if you take Tums as they are carbonate based.

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You guys really need to double check with your doctors about this Calcium thing.
Most people get calcium oxalate stones....and it's easy to think....if I have too much calcium, I'll get stones! Must not take too much calcium!
Except, typically...this is a VERY bad idea....because dietary calcium BINDS with dietary oxalate so it can be safety passed and NOT turn into stones. Stopping calcium might actually INCREASE your risk of stones if you eat oxalate rich foods.
I know this all sounds bizarre......but please check with your doctor to be sure you're following the best protocol for you and your specific situation.
To avoid stones.....Drink lots of Water. Avoid salt. Limit animal Protein.
Study a list of oxalate rich foods and eat them sparingly.

Thank you! I'll be 20 in May. I recovered pretty quickly and I think you will too! You can do this [emoji123]

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We do have similar stats! I still have mine too haha I just ask because I know some people have issues with it after surgery. Hoping I'm not one of them!
I am 5' 3" and I am 27, I'll be 28 in August [emoji4]
I am sure you look great I know it can be hard to see a change in yourself! You've lost a lot of weight! That is something to be proud of

I have had them on and off sense I was in my 20’s. I have an elevated level of Calcium in both my blood and urine. I had all the tests and nothing medical going on, just one of those **** happens kind of things. I was taking something but I could not tell you what it was. After my surgery, we retested and I was almost normal.
BTW
When I got my list of Vitamins to take…The calcium supplement was X’ed out in red

Oh girl I hate the gym too! lol I am 5 ft even and still have my gallbladder. I feel like it's a little harder to look like I've lost weight since I'm short but there is definitely a difference between pre op and post op. How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? We seem to have a lot of the same stats.. we def could help each other!

I have the same problem as you. My wife had the bypass and that’s what I was going to get. My kidney doctor recommended that I get the sleeve as the bypass would put me at a higher risk of stones. I am 5 months out and no signs of them. Here’s the thing though…As the weight is coming off my Calcium level is going down. Not normal and might never be but it was low enough to stop the meds for it

I hate the gym haha I am uncomfortable there... But I need to go. I have 2 boxers that get me out and walking everyday so that is good.
I definitely need this tool I am so tired of being the fat one 🤷[emoji23]
130 is only 40 pounds away your so close! How tall are you?
I am sure you will get there! You are doing really well! Do you still have your gallbladder?

I'm hoping to get to 130 too, so we pretty much have the same starting weight and goal weight! I know exactly how you feel. I'm hoping the keto diet works for me too. The sleeve is such a great tool! Especially if you are good at going to the gym (which I'm not LOL)

Wow, that's awesome! How long were you on it?
It's very hard to stay on track. Even now with surgery, I catch myself trying to eat how I used to. Fortunately, my body doesn't let me anymore lol I haven't gained any weight, but have stayed around 170 lbs. My highest weight was around 230. What is good about surgery (at least in my case) is that although you can hit a weight loss stall, it's a whole lot harder to gain more back.

I did I lost about 30 pounds. I haven't had surgery yet but it was the one diet that did actually work for me.
I unfortunately let myself fall back into old habits and have gained about 15 back ☹️

I'm actually trying the keto diet now. How did it work for you? Did you lose any weight?

I think I've also experienced it pre op. There has been times where I was in Keto and I'd cheat and get a cookie and drink from a local place and it always made me feel soooo sick. I didn't eat Cookies from there for about 6 months because I felt so crappy. Lots of nausea.

I think I have experienced it pre-surgery too. back in the day, if I drank a sugary drink, i'd get all of the dumping symptoms. I just never knew what it was. anything like a wine cooler, glass of OJ or syrupy sweet drink would almost always do it. and I was like 120#.

from my understanding, there are 2 types of dumping. the more immediate early type, and late dumping syndrome. late dumping has many of the same symptoms, but cam include hypoglycemia.
I know there are better sources than wikipedia, but according to wikipedia, about 75% of people have early dumping and 25% get late dumping. I get mostly early dumping, but have had late dumping a handful of times. for me, it's much worse, as my blood sugar goes haywire.

I have had the sleeve and have had dumping syndrome once. I can eat most types of ice creams okay, but this particular time I was treating myself to Blue Bell ice cream. BIG MISTAKE. It was way too sugary and rich. I didn't feel it right away, but a few hours later when I was grocery shopping, it kicked in. My fiancé had to do all the shopping as I was stuck in the restroom. It was very painful and lasted a few hours. Lesson learned lol but as long as you are not eating anything that is too heavy and sugary, I think you will be fine

It's fun here in the upside down (Australia). Not the stranger things one though. I'm getting sleeve in a few days and glad dumping is mostly a bypass problem, though I don't plan to be eating sugary or fatty foods anyway.

I know of 2 people in my support group here in Vermont that are Sleevers and are 3 years post op and they dump. But they say it's like a bypass person's dumping but not as severe, and it's all about the sugar and fat content. So it's not typical for sleeves but it does happen. I hope it doesn't happen to me, BUT if it kept me away from the food that was really tempting. But I have tools, I have willpower, and I (barely post op) still have pain and bright red incision marks to remind me of good choices.

I wonder if I'm having a form of reactive hypoglycemia. From what I read, it's all lumped together but reactive hypoglycemia has a drop in blood sugar too. I'm still in the pre-diabetic range but my Dr isn't concerned nor has advised me to test sugar. Just one of those things I wonder about. But the bottom line is always 'don't eat that'. I wish it was that easy!

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