moondoggie1983

Ahh the good old food funeral!!! It’s actually good that you feel a little shame. But don’t go overboard. Just be determined when you start the diet to not cheat.
You’ll be good! Just don’t have 20 huge meals right before you start the diet. You won’t screw this up by having one food funeral. :)

Unfortunately, I agree with the majority of the posts. Did you have to do any psych exams pre surgery? If not, you should start. Honestly, I would call your surgeon and tell them all of this. If you watch videos of WLS you’ll see how important it is to shrink a normal sized liver, and you stated you have a very fatty liver. It’s better to be honest and have it rescheduled to when you’re ready than have them go in and close up because they couldn’t do it.
I also think you might be looking for a reason to cancel. Whether intentional or not. What you described is not cheating, its binging. You don’t eat a half a pizza and then are legitimately hungry for donuts 2 hours later. That’s all in your head.
I had my VSG May 10 and I’m still only able to have some soft foods. How are you going to handle a possible month or more not being to eat anything you listed in your post? You can hurt yourself if you do.
It’s sad to say, but a whole bunch of people are unsuccessful after WLS. Now, I’m not a part of the “never have this ever again!” group, but there is the basic fact that there are foods with nutritional value, and those without. Will I have a burger later on? Maybe. Right now, red meat makes me sick and I’ve accepted that I might not ever be able to eat it again. Will I ever have a donut? Maybe I’ll have a small piece of my dad gets one, but not a whole one. If my family orders a pizza, I’ll probably have some cheese since it has Protein. Or if I want one, I’ll make one with cauliflower crust.
Just be aware, you can’t eat like this. You get full. And you do get jealous seeing people around you eating things you can’t have.
The good news is that if your insurance approved you, they’ll do it again. But if I were you, I’d start seeing a psychiatrist who specializes in WLS patients NOW. Personally I saw one 5 times before surgery even though I only had to go 3 times. And that’s on top of seeing my regular psychiatrist every 45 days.
Call you doctor, tell them about your binging, ask for a referral to a psychiatrist and start again. That’s the best advice I can give you.
Sorry if this sounds mean, but it’s just what I’d do if I were in your situation. You don’t want to do something life changing (you’ll never get your old stomach back, even if you do stretch it) and at this rate, you’ve already set yourself up for failure in the future (IMO).

Oh! And I lost 12 lbs. VSG on 5/10 and I’m down 32 lbs. 84lbs down since I started with NUT visits

I had to do the Optifast diet. It was 800 calories. 3 shakes a day plus 2 other items (shakes, Soups or bars.) And lots of water! I did mine for 13 days.

3 days after it was submitted to my insurance company.

All the pre-op requirements for my VSG took 18 months. BUT, once the paperwork was submitted, I got approved in 3 days.

Yes! I did the Optifast as well. It sucks for the first 3-5 days. Don’t cheat or it’ll be worse. If you’re on any meds for high blood sugar, check your bg levels all the time. I ended up stopping mine after 4 days cause I was bottoming out. Once I started drinking about 96oz of Water a day, I felt better as well.

On 06/05/2018 at 21:19, mav2126 said:

Thanks Moondoggie for responding so quickly! Can I ask what does ODT mean?

On 06/05/2018 at 23:19, lysdexic_girl said:

So can you not swallow regular pills after the surgery? My surgery is also the 27th and I also have bipolar disorder!! No one told me anything about swallowing pills would be a problem... now I’m concerned.

On 06/04/2018 at 13:44, MN_Meg770 said:

Awesome news! So happy the surgeon had your back!

Same here but I had my VSG on 5/10. My surgeon says to hydrate over Protein right now. I already had to be admitted to the ER once for dehydration. I try to get at least 40g of protein per day and sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn’t. I’m not too stressed about it. I had a rough patch where eating anything made me vomit so I’ve been back on liquids for 10 days. Just started soft foods again yesterday and now it’s going really well.
Like my NUT says, you can live 3 weeks without food, but only 3 days without Water.< /p>

I woke up about 10 minutes after my VSG. 😂 I kind of freaked the surgery staff out with how quickly I woke up. I was transferred to my room within an hour and 30 minutes after that I was up walking. The gas pain was AWFUL for me. I ended up walking the floor the entire day and night because laying down sucked. And I was also bored. I never slept. I just walked. By the time I was released at 11:00 the next morning I had zero gas pain.

Hi! I’m bipolar too! I’m also on quite a few medications for it. I made sure to get the liquid or ODT versions on those that were large. I also made sure none of mine were time release because you can’t crush those. I had VSG on 5/10 and I’m now taking my normal pills (other than the trazadone which now makes me vomit, and the lamictal which I still use the ODT form of because the crushed tastes disgusting and the tablets are too large to swallow.) I’ve only changed one medication dose since surgery and that was because crushing them made me absorb them much faster. Also, I feel so much better after losing some weight that I honestly didn’t need that 3rd daily dose anymore anyway.

On 05/30/2018 at 15:19, MIZ60 said:

This is beyond unacceptable.....you are literally starving and all that vomiting is bad for your electrolyte balance. If your surgeon is part of a group then SOMEONE is responsible for covering for his patients while he is unavailable and needs to figure out what is going on with you. When I was in a group practice, we always took calls and covered for whomever was out. It is just a basic standard of care.

I would recommend you stop the phone calls and just show up at the office and ask that someone help you. Try to be as calm and nice as possible but do not let them just blow you off.

I sure hope you get to feeling better soon.

On 06/02/2018 at 13:57, stacy@5 said:

I feel the same way!!!! Yesterday was my first day on soft/puréed foods!! Took one bite of eggs and they came right back up! Tried some sweet potato later one in the day and I had indigestion for 5 hours! Being on vacation, I am totally miserable, I want to cry my eyes out, I am missing the food I use to eat 😫😫😫!! They eating steak and I’m drinking a Protein shake!! I just want to stay in the room and pout!!!!

On 06/02/2018 at 09:33, bluebutterfly said:

I spent 6 days in the hospital after surgery due to nausea and vomiting. Was given the patch and several different anti nausea meds that did nothing for me. Was finally sent home and still having horrible nausea and vomiting 1-3 times a day. Had a follow up yesterday and was told I’m sensitive to being in ketosis and to have a little apple juice through out the day to keep my sugar up. Went all day yesterday without vomiting and thought I had the code cracked only to wake up in the middle of the night vomiting 🤕 I feel so defeated. I’ve followed everything the surgeon has told me and can’t seem to get this under control. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone and am so sorry to see others having issues.

On 06/03/2018 at 15:59, kimberlymi said:

You can get a nausea medication for under your tongue that dissolved quickly and gets into your system quickly. Ask for that.

On 06/03/2018 at 16:55, Frustr8 said:

So the office staff hates you? Well wah wah on them! Don't they realize they upset,my little Moondoggie🐶, why should they be allowed to eat when everything you do comes right back barreling,up? I am peeved with them on your behalf.

Now for an update on me. I went tomeet the 3 wise people at the OSU Bariatric center. First I met Valerie my nurse practitioner,a little difference in skin pigmentation but super smart, super efficient and very pleasant to talk to. Seemed like and/or accept everything on my medical history. Only jarri,g thing she asked. was " Am I Bipolar?" told her I was never diagnosed so I didn't think so, should have asked if Dr Kramer the staff psychologist thought I was. Then I met with the. dietician/nutritionist Roy, yeah a thin young handsome dude, he swiched me to prenatal Vitamins for the Iron , told me I basically was okay on my diet because he wanted me to,⬆my calorie count, didn't really give me a structuralized diet. Then I met with Kelly the exercise physiologist, she told me and gave me some sheets to follow. Well the next day I did 1 set of repetitions of the exercises and nearly lamed myself so I'm back to the gentle walking etc I was doing all along.

Friday I finally heard from Jessica my case manager/facilitator. She had been out of town for a conference the 24 and25, so I didn't meet her then face-to-face. Then she was out until Thursday for a prolonged Memorial Day holiday. Finally talked for a brief time Thursday, find out my clearances for pulmonary and cardiology had gotten lost so I had to request they be defaced. Then there is v the matter of the EGD, I am running into a little trouble getting it refaxed, you see my gastroenterologist closed his local practice v down and,left town. I suspect I know where he relocated to but I'm not certain. Promised I would fax all the paperwork he gave me but if that isn't enough I'll have to go through my third EGD in 3 years. I will receive a letter on official stationary welcoming me to this next step of this process. Heard from another portion that my presurgical blood labs which they already went and did show I have a deficiency in Vitamins A and D, so I have to pick them up at Wal-Mart Monday. My landlord and I are not getting along for several reasons and I realized it may be possible to go into a house of my own . He refuses to make repairs, wishes $39.000 because of the amount of land. The house has v deteriated to equal condition of one offered locally for $15,000,the only thing mine has better is I still have working ceiling fixtures instead of wires hanging down. He has taken the majority of my rental monies and repaired his own home at the expense of Mine. So his Mon u we are in escrow at this point. I have an insurance settlement that might find a down payment and monthly morgage paymentscless than what I pay now.

Just watch, settlement, threat of eviction , surgery and housing relocation will all fall in the same week or 10 days. What next? Oh I have a lump growing on the inner surface of my left arm right above the elbow. One doctor says it is a lipoma, a fatty tumor, maybe so but it is enlarging quickly. Almost the size of a wiggle or tennis ball cut in half. Hmmmm?

And now. the only further problem is I need a 30 day stretch of C Pap usage electronically validated so no surgery until July 1st.😲

Hey guys. Sorry for the long gap. I ended up just going to the surgeons office and hour before they all go to lunch. I made a point of not leaving (and thus letting them get their food!) until I was seen. And seen I was! The surgeon was pissed because no one had sent along my messages of how poorly I was doing. The office staff was pissed because I called them out on their crap treatment of a patient.
So the end result was that he put me back on liquids only until tonight or tomorrow, at which point I can start trying applesauce again. I’m also to drink regular Gatorade right now to make sure I’m getting calories. I’m getting in a small Optifast shake a day to get some Protein, but if I overdo the powders I’ll throw up. So I’m basically getting about 20-30g of protein and then my Gatorade, some Water and some teas.
I didn’t get any nausea meds because the patch gives me hives. The protonix seems to finally be working and I’ve ditched the carafate because it was causing me to foam and slime.
Long story short, I’ve switched everything around, gone back to liquids, am drinking some full sugar drinks to get calories (and they also give me little hunger spikes which is good!) and now have my surgeons personal email. And his office staff hates me but they can suck it. 😂
Have only thrown up 3-4 times in the last few days, and those were from drinking Soup too fast (you get really hungry after starving for weeks and it’s a little hard to control when you can finally eat anything again). Or the surprise of a PB.
And I’m taking 3 flintstones Vitamins a day instead of my Bariatric chewies. Until I can get some serious food in, I’m avoiding them. Trying to keep things easy to process.
My surgeon said to think of it like a twisted ankle. If it hurts to move or walk on it, would you keep aggravating it or give it rest and a break? Same idea with new little tummies.
Thanks for all the advice and concern guys! You’re all wonderful people and hopefully good friends soon. You all touched me at a very low point in my life. Thank you for making a bad time so much better.

On 05/30/2018 at 00:05, Little Green said:

That's honestly ridiculous and I'm so upset for you. I have a nausea med that I don't have to swallow, it just dissolves on my tongue. I don't have any advice and I'm sorry about that, but I really hope you can find some relief soon.

On 05/30/2018 at 00:11, Frustr8 said:

Shame you can't take them into the Great Smokies and lose them. If they holler. just tell them you'll mention it to the State Police on June 5th.

What a miserable nasty way to lose weight. I get very unhappy when my,Moondoggie gets mistreated like this.!

On 05/29/2018 at 23:36, MN_Meg770 said:

This sounds terrible! What did your surgeon say about this?? I assume he’s concerned.?

On 05/29/2018 at 23:14, TxAlpha06 said:

Nausea meds made me toss it up the first time I took it....never took a second dose....might be those...

On 05/29/2018 at 23:03, Gundy said:

Hi Moondoggie!



My heart goes out to you!



Are you prescribed Omeprozal DR or anti-nausea medication? My surgeon has his patients take the Omeprozal twice a day and the nausea medication as needed.

So I’m 19 days post VSG, and I am soooo tired of vomiting! I’m supposed to be in the soft food stage, but pretty much everything that goes in comes right back. So far I’ve been able to keep down 2-3 tablespoons of mashed potatoes, applesauce and one time refried Beans. It’s to the point where even when I’m hungry I don’t want to eat because I dread throwing it up AGAIN. I get my fluids in but Protein is an issue. And I can’t take my Bariatric chewies because they come right back up too.
Basically I’m living on 64oz of wasted, 200 calories and on a good day 13-14g of protein if I can get a shake to stay down. I’m constantly tired and could probably sleep all day if that was an option.
I’m on protonix in the morning, carafate every 6 hours and nexium and Prilosec at night along with my regular medications.
I’m just so angry and depressed at this point. I wish I had never done this. It’s like I worked so hard and jumped through so many hoops for 18 months just to wish I’d die. Let me clarify that I’m not suicidal, but if something happened tomorrow and I didn’t wake up, I honestly don’t feel like I’d care. I get no pleasure from life. It’s not missing food. It’s that I literally don’t care about anything at this point. Everyone says I worked really hard for this and it will get better and blah blah blah. But I don’t see it.
I’m sorry this is depressing. But I had to let it out somewhere and since everyone just keeps saying you’re fine you’re doing great whatever when I’m NOT, I thought I’d post it here.
This has been a terrible experience since day 6 post op. I’m just hating I had this done.
Am I alone in feeling like this? Everyone else just seems so damn happy.