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The thing is that 2 weeks after surgery, I kept having dreams in which i mistakenly advanced my meal plan. Then I developed ridiculous cravings and all.
I am quite glad I didn't ask a single question about them. Lest I face a barrage of eye rolling and cynical insults disguised as advice.
Perhaps the person is not familiar with "head hunger" . Funny enough I checked my plan and saw Breyers bariatric ice-cream in it..
What if the person was asking about said ice cream?
What if it is even. A troll post by someone trying to start something?
My point is that the post is too short to come to definite conclusions about. Perhaps we pry the OP for more responses before we arrive at better conclusions?
Just to add, I am a fan!! Your weightloss inspires me!!
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It's been my experience that people who begin with "I'm sorry, but -" or similar aren't sorry at all.
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What is a problem food for one may not be a problem food for others, so I choose to answer the question asked without making further assumptions as there are more reasons to consume various forms of frozen dairy than the presumed (condescending, insulting) desire to pig out on sweets, which I assume is not OP's intent, having just gone through a major operation to restrict caloric intakes in order to reclaim health.
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We don't know why OP asked the question. And we don't know if they're thinking of Haagen Daaz or low fat sugar free fro-yo (which is actually good for many of our meal plans) or even Eggface's high Protein ice cream which looks like a valid alternative to shakes. (A very attractive alternative if they, like me, are prone to sore throats in the spring due to allergies)

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But we can assume all of us here know that diving into a pint of Ben & Jerry's is both destructive and counter productive.

OP don't be shamed for asking this question. I have had ice-cream since my surgery. My one and only dumping episode was on sugar free ice cream.
Be careful not to slide back into bad habits. It's an incredibly difficult road ahead.
Good luck on your journey and keep asking

This is an open forum where we should be able to express our goals, accomplishments, and failures. Berating someone because of what they ate is extremely unhelpful. Instead we should try not to judge. Not one of you is perfect or you wouldn't be here in the first place.

For goodness sakes. Please ignore the overly righteous rude replies you're getting. It's a thing whenever someone mentions food that doesn't fit a strict plan.


My my doctor took the view that this is for life, and life requires some flexibility. He then encouraged me to enjoy my birthday cake that would be coming up after surgery.
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The OCCASIONAL treat, given how small it will necessarily be, is probably ok for many of us. Only you know what other issues you have (diabetes, for example, makes some foods highly inadvisable, for instance).
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That said, I have had, since surgery, about 50 calories worth of a truly delicious locally made sorbet without incident, a 20 calorie bite of my wife's ice cream sandwich (apparently it tastes like cheese to me now. Ew), a small scoop of lactaid ice cream when I was having trouble getting and keeping anything at all down, and have tried live active culture frozen yogurt (which comes sugar free, low fat, etc) with no complaints from my stomach. Does it sound like a lot? It's not. But then, I have no insulin-related disorders and each portion has been very small and fit within my own plan.
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My calories have been on the low end of the range where they need to be, and my nutrition looks good so far. So everyone on my team is fine with that.
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My main point is that you and your team know your nutritional and medical situation way better than strangers on the internet. My secondary point is that yes, yes, I have tried other iced things since surgery with no adverse effects on my sleeve or weight loss. My tertiary point is that you need to find a way to eat WITH your sleeve that you can stick to and maintain a healthy weight with for the rest of your life.

Having a hard time dealing with the weight gain after getting to my goal of 125...
I had Gastric Sleeve on 10/18/2012 Starting weight was 235 and being only 5' 3" it was hard on my body. I decided to have the procedure done after seeing the fantastic results of my father in laws surgery ( he also had the gastric sleeve). I saw results right away and was very happy with how things were progressing. My husband at the time was totally against the surgery and did not even stay with me in the hospital. It was a bummer to say the least that I was so exited to finally feel good about myself and no one to share my success with.
I finally reach my goal of 125 in just a few short months. By this time my husband and I had split up and of course he found someone else ( who of course was larger then myself). I was so sad and happy at the same time, I had the body I had been hoping for and my health was improved. A few months later my then ex- husband committed suicide and I fell into a very deep depression and my bad habits came back with a vengeance. I slept to much, didn't exercise and went right back to eating just like before surgery. As you would guess the weight started coming back and quite quickly.
It has now been a few years and I've been trying to get back on track. I have lost about 30 lbs of the 80 I gained back and I see no reason to stop now.

I think you're right, especially those who don't follow up on the bloodwork with their GPs. Blood work is what wasn't mentioned by my surgical team.

Also, a lot of people think that because VSG isn't malabsorptive, Vitamin deficiencies aren't an issue while forgetting that some vitamins need to spend time in the stomach to start breaking down with the stomach acids, which affects how much your body can actually extract (calcium is one of those, I think?)


Its too easy to forget that less food = fewer nutrients. And lots of people going the ketogenic route are virtually eliminating whole categories of nutrient-bearing foods.

Given the numerous studies that have found a positive correlation between calorie restriction and increased longevity, I would not be surprised to see a bump in longevity for sleeved peeps once the post-op and comorbidity mortality have been neutralized.


On the other hand, we may also have a propensity to LOOK older than we would have otherwise due to sagging skin and lower fat intake. There could also be osteoporosis and dental repercussions for those of us who don't keep up with the Calcium supplements, especially if sleeved young.


I've been pondering on this, too, can you tell? But I'm hoping the surgery will let me age more like my relatively slender paternal relatives rather than my maternal relatives who are all struggling with the syndrome X spectrum of health and weight issues and who tend to become infirm much younger.

Yes, I think that's what I was thinking of, I am seeing many young people on this forum getting sleeved. With other WLS fading from popularitysuch as the band. Was wondering the long term implications.

By the way, I understand the sleeve was around since 1999. But has recently become popular.

There is plenty to be said that is bad about carbonated beverages, but I wanted to address this one in particular. Depending on the surgery, the stretchy part of of the stomach (the fundus) is removed (sleeve) or bypassed (bypass). Therefore it is not possible to stretch the stomach again.
However! Once the scar tissue has fully healed, the stomach that remains does regain some pliability. I would liken it to a garden hose in the winter versus the same hose in the summer. On a properly performed surgery, when people say that their stomach has stretched, most likely what has happened is that the pylorus (for sleeves) or the created opening to the intestine (bypass) has been weakened and/or stretched and food can move from the stomach or pouch into the intestine quicker allowing for more food to be consumed.
To make the myth worse is the fact that doctors/surgeons will put the above into "laymans terms" for their patients. Thus perpetuating the belief that you can stretch your sleeve by eating poorly or too much or drinking carbonated beverages.

Do you mean the nutritional impacts? The sleeve has only been around since 2011 so the data is not in.
My logical self says that it will not have much impact. Usually when we get old our appetite decreases and our diversity of food choices decrease as well. Consequently, I feel that nutritionally it will have the least impact of all WLS surgeries as malabsorption is not a factor in the equation.
I hope that kind of answer is what you are looking for.
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The resolve will be the rny. My original surgeon should have never recommended the sleeve with my acid reflux. It only made it worse. It is the base of all the problems

Going back on liquids is a good idea. However you need some sort of a time frame and next steps if you still can't eat solid food.

I am almost 5 years out from surgery. I lost around 155 pounds and kept it off for about 3.5 years. But in the past 1.5 years, I have suffered from depression and started drinking alcohol excessively ( I typically would have ate food excessively in the past). In the past I could have several drinks and be fine; however post surgery the side effects were much more severe (depression, a feeling of real dependency, blacking out suddenly with no recollection of where the cutoff point would be i.e. 2 drinks now was just as strong as drinking 5) The alcohol goes so quickly into your system that it is a real danger if not properly monitored. Although my eating habits didn't change, without daily exercise and with the added calories of excessive alcohol consumption, I regained around 60 pounds. In addition to the weight gain I have struggled with the affects of alcohol dependency, which I never had experienced before. As VSG patients we were all cautioned on drinking and how it affects us differently after surgery. I didn't really take heed to those warnings until it had become a problem for me. I am working on it daily now and also am struggling to lose the weight all over again, which feels pretty much like as difficult as it had been prior to surgery. I think this is not talked about enough and I'm sure I am not the only VSG patient who has experienced this. As a community being open with one another, and as individual seeking out help earlier, I probably wouldn't be struggling with these 60 pounds now. Anyone who's been through it should reach out sooner than later. Not only have I suffered from this issue, I have had to deal with the fact that I messed up my own progress and success and now have to deal with the ramifications of starting all over again so to speak. This I can say for certain, staying in a support group and dealing with your issues is imperative to continued success in this journey. I'm not sure if I'll loose all of the 60 I've regained again, but I am willing to fight the battle to do this all over again and to warn others of how dangerous alcohol consumption is for us post surgery!

I have just completed the first week of my 2-week pre-op diet.
The first and second day were hard. Then it got easy......
Protein Shake for Breakfast. Egg beaters and fat free cottage cheese omelet with grape tomatoes for lunch. Cup of fat free Greek yogurt and cup of fruit for snack. 3 ounces of tuna and 3 ounces of chicken with a can of green Beans for dinner. Protein shake for after dinner snack.
I'm full. I'm physically satisfied. I'm not physically hungry. I'm hovering around 1000 calories a day.
So why can't I eat like this all the time, every day and "do it myself?"
Why is it in the face of surgery that I'm so disciplined and careful and attentive?
Could I just cancel surgery and hope that I could continue being this disciplined?