curiousone

I had my sleeve done nine months ago, aged 62. I walked with a stick, had severe shortage of breath, high blood pressure and was told 11 months before surgery that I was diabetic. I am a carer for my husband and there were times when he was having to care for me. Things had to change.
I never realised that loosing weight would have made such a huge difference. I gallop through chores, walk miles and have endless energy. The diabetes and blood pressure went within a few months. The only pills I take now are for Fibromyalgia.
The only downside to being overweight and being my age is the loose skin. I will need more surgery .

May I suggest the sleeve? Unless you're extremely heavy (like 600 or so) or looking for a quick diabetes reversal, I think the sleeve is able to help you drop some lbs, while being simpler/lower complication than the bypass and also not being malabsorptive--you can still keep the Vitamins from food you ingest.

I think there are some that see the positive spirit in the post, while other want to take everything as an attack.

I do think this information is important to anyone who is researching each procedure. I do NOT believe it was anyone's intention to disparage the band at all - in fact, one of the articles was PRO lap-band.

We all chose our surgeries for a purpose - and I think we all have a bit of a bias toward our own surgeries.

This was good information - don't turn something like this into something it wasn't.
ALL surgeries have their benefits, and ALL surgeries have their downfalls.

I don't want it to die. There is some good info on this slide. I am a bander. I did 85% of everything I was suppose to, and I still didn't loose the weight. I have tried not to be discouraged. I've given up many times, but now I am trying again. I hate that I have to pay out of love for maintenance, but it is what it is at this point. Im very open to having the sleeve, but at this point I want to wait until after I have children. So until then I am going to try to stay positive.
I know I didn't do the detailed reservation that I should have pre surgery, and that wasn't smart at all. But I'm happy to say that I haven't had all the issues that most people have had, but it still hasn't worked as well. I have had a lot of Fluid taken out because I couldn't keep the food down. But things aren't was bad this go round with the fills. I guess time has taught me how to better handle my band.
I wouldn't recommend the band, but that's just me.

Curiousone, good post! TMF seems to be very happy with his choice of WLS. Unfortunately, many who haven't suffered complications of banding are very enthusiastic in voicing their pro band position and in calling anyone of a different persuasion a brasher, denier, negative, etc.
This "least invasive", no rerouting, reversible device, is in fact none of the aforementioned. After 3 years of being banded, a year of undergoing some pretty invasive tests and having my GI anatomy permanently change by the device, I can speak to that. It's removable, but the damage it leaves behind is permanent.
Many who have trouble free bands just can't deal with the reality that at some point, they will most likely lose their precious tool! It's a devastating reality for many of us.
I ignore such people except when they cross the line of name calling or bullying.
Thanks for your post.

If you read my post, and not let TMF get you off track, you will see that I did not--not in any way--bash any procedure. I didn't assert any bias, and I also didn't craft the first link's slides. It was simply info from Bariatric surgeons, the actual link to their slides.
In fact, Dr. Ponce--the doctor who presented why lapband is still an option--HIS SLIDES graphically indicate that the band (Adjustable Gastric Band: AGB) is declining in use around the world. See his slides 37-41, again at Ponce.pdf" rel="external nofollow">http://asmbs.planion.com/EvalCenter/ASMBS/images/106296_6_106296_6_LAGB_still_valid_operation-Ponce.pdf . Uh, 2MF, follow the 'AGB' golden-colored line, if that helps you. So again, my post wasn't an 'opinion' piece; I didn't tout one surgery over another. I simply shared info. It's sad that folks would let 2MF misconstrue the post, assign ill intent, etc., then get others in a fuss. He obviously has anger issues and is ready to rant about anything he construes as anti-band, or if he doesn't like the data. My original post was not my opinion, or my telling anyone to do this or that. It is what I said it was: info presented at an obesity conference, provided as an fyi to do with what you will. Anyway, have a good one!

So only pro-band members can post biased opinions??? We all post based on our own experience...who says one person's experience is more valid, accurate or reflective of the efficacy of a particular procedure?
Posting a contrary opinion isn't "bashing". The newbies of which you speak, are able to read posts on both sides of the argument and, as you noted, are able to make up their minds.
By all means speak up! But understand, you also can expect a response.

Uh...to '2much fun"...anger issuers, perhaps? I said NOTHING about anyone being "stupid," etc. I was simply trying to pull from the 57-slide presentation what that presenting doctor said.
FYI here's that link. As you will see, I didn't put MY extrapolation into either report, so...you know not of which you speak. Ponce.pdf" rel="external nofollow">http://asmbs.planion.com/EvalCenter/ASMBS/images/106296_6_106296_6_LAGB_still_valid_operation-Ponce.pdf
I don't get into conversations with what I call online 'rhetorical agitators' who bark about this or that. I simply shared info from, yes, an "Obesity Week" conference, not a "so-called" conference. Google it.
Your nastiness, anger and aggression is unnecessary. Maybe you need to live up to your username--get out and have some fun.
Have a nice day.

I am a newbie here as I consider which procedure I'm going to have. I want to THANK the OP--original poster "Dr-Patient" for that info!!! I found the links interesting and helpful.



Whoever this 'toomuchfun' person is, sounds like he changed his first post since I last saw it the other day. Is he is bitter about the procedure he had done? Why even bother reading about anything else if you're post-op? Maybe he has toomuchfun causing chaos with others.



Dr-P said "if interested." The link she posted first included slides that had medical reference sources, so (as someone else said, it wasn't "unsubstantiated". She wasn't giving her opinion, as she later posted.



Dr-P also gave the words for what the source was--ASMBS...that IS the official bariatric surgeons group. DUH. I Googled it and there was an Obesity Week conference in November last year. So for the doubter to say "so called" conference...?



The other link Dr-P provided WAS quite 'technical', and for sure, over my head for many slides so I understand why she didn't first include it, she was doing us a favor, but she DID pull from that link the important data for us all to see "IF INTERESTED".



From what I see and according to my doctor, the lapband IS going out of favor, around the world. That's not the OPs doing; that's the data presented and well known by many people who do these procedures and talk to us, though it is still being done, just not as much because of complications. I wanted the band at first, but I now know three people who have had it removed, so I'm unsure what to have done. Given my BMI I might do the bypass.



I have to do a lot of analytical reading for my work so I found TMFs rants so misguided. DP wasn't a "band denier". DP wasn't promoting one procedure or another. Dr-P had no agenda, if so she would have said the "bypass" was the way to go since the data showed a continued acceptance of that. It is TMF who has an obvious (vile) agenda and, imho, a not-too-well-reasoned way of reading data. Take a chill pill. DP didn't give any person opinions. She didn't recommend any procedure over another.



if you regret what you had done, oh well. but don't lash out, aggress, rant and rage for no valid reason.



Personally I appreciate the links to medical information. Maybe with the OP's username, she is a doctor (don't know, but we can ask), too and is simply providing to the community here some inside info and she gave links for us to see if we wanted to check it out. Or, simply...we could probably just ask for her to expound if necessary ("please post the additional link"), or we take whatever any of us share here and discuss it with our doctors.



It's likely some of our doctors was at that "Obesity Week" conference, so I'm glad for the info!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say thank you and feel free to share more inside info for my consideration, as I try to decide on what I want to have done because knowledge is a good thing, especially when it's from the group of doctors who do this type surgery. I thank the OP--original poster I think TMF should say he's sorry for his misplaced rant. It's posts like that that make folks not wish to visit boards.



I will determine what I will have done, but info is good...especially if it's "inside info", as the links obviously are. All the facts add up. She had no reason to attempt to deceive us. It seems that many here are aiming to be helpful, though some might seek to have 'fun' stirring up trouble.

I am a newbie here as I consider which procedure I'm going to have. I want to THANK the OP--original poster "Dr-Patient" for that info!!! I found the links interesting and helpful.



Whoever this 'toomuchfun' person is, sounds like he changed his first post since I last saw it the other day. Is he is bitter about the procedure he had done? Why even bother reading about anything else if you're post-op? Maybe he has toomuchfun causing chaos with others.



Dr-P said "if interested." The link she posted first included slides that had medical reference sources, so (as someone else said, it wasn't "unsubstantiated". She wasn't giving her opinion, as she later posted.



Dr-P also gave the words for what the source was--ASMBS...that IS the official bariatric surgeons group. DUH. I Googled it and there was an Obesity Week conference in November last year. So for the doubter to say "so called" conference...?



The other link Dr-P provided WAS quite 'technical', and for sure, over my head for many slides so I understand why she didn't first include it, she was doing us a favor, but she DID pull from that link the important data for us all to see "IF INTERESTED".



From what I see and according to my doctor, the lapband IS going out of favor, around the world. That's not the OPs doing; that's the data presented and well known by many people who do these procedures and talk to us, though it is still being done, just not as much because of complications. I wanted the band at first, but I now know three people who have had it removed, so I'm unsure what to have done. Given my BMI I might do the bypass.



I have to do a lot of analytical reading for my work so I found TMFs rants so misguided. DP wasn't a "band denier". DP wasn't promoting one procedure or another. Dr-P had no agenda, if so she would have said the "bypass" was the way to go since the data showed a continued acceptance of that. It is TMF who has an obvious (vile) agenda and, imho, a not-too-well-reasoned way of reading data. Take a chill pill. DP didn't give any person opinions. She didn't recommend any procedure over another.



if you regret what you had done, oh well. but don't lash out, aggress, rant and rage for no valid reason.



Personally I appreciate the links to medical information. Maybe with the OP's username, she is a doctor (don't know, but we can ask), too and is simply providing to the community here some inside info and she gave links for us to see if we wanted to check it out. Or, simply...we could probably just ask for her to expound if necessary ("please post the additional link"), or we take whatever any of us share here and discuss it with our doctors.



It's likely some of our doctors was at that "Obesity Week" conference, so I'm glad for the info!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say thank you and feel free to share more inside info for my consideration, as I try to decide on what I want to have done because knowledge is a good thing, especially when it's from the group of doctors who do this type surgery. I thank the OP--original poster I think TMF should say he's sorry for his misplaced rant. It's posts like that that make folks not wish to visit boards.



I will determine what I will have done, but info is good...especially if it's "inside info", as the links obviously are. All the facts add up. She had no reason to attempt to deceive us. It seems that many here are aiming to be helpful, though some might seek to have 'fun' stirring up trouble.

I am a newbie here as I consider which procedure I'm going to have. I want to THANK the OP--original poster "Dr-Patient" for that info!!! I found the links interesting and helpful.



Whoever this 'toomuchfun' person is, sounds like he changed his first post since I last saw it the other day. Is he is bitter about the procedure he had done? Why even bother reading about anything else if you're post-op? Maybe he has toomuchfun causing chaos with others.



Dr-P said "if interested." The link she posted first included slides that had medical reference sources, so (as someone else said, it wasn't "unsubstantiated". She wasn't giving her opinion, as she later posted.



Dr-P also gave the words for what the source was--ASMBS...that IS the official bariatric surgeons group. DUH. I Googled it and there was an Obesity Week conference in November last year. So for the doubter to say "so called" conference...?



The other link Dr-P provided WAS quite 'technical', and for sure, over my head for many slides so I understand why she didn't first include it, she was doing us a favor, but she DID pull from that link the important data for us all to see "IF INTERESTED".



From what I see and according to my doctor, the lapband IS going out of favor, around the world. That's not the OPs doing; that's the data presented and well known by many people who do these procedures and talk to us, though it is still being done, just not as much because of complications. I wanted the band at first, but I now know three people who have had it removed, so I'm unsure what to have done. Given my BMI I might do the bypass.



I have to do a lot of analytical reading for my work so I found TMFs rants so misguided. DP wasn't a "band denier". DP wasn't promoting one procedure or another. Dr-P had no agenda, if so she would have said the "bypass" was the way to go since the data showed a continued acceptance of that. It is TMF who has an obvious (vile) agenda and, imho, a not-too-well-reasoned way of reading data. Take a chill pill. DP didn't give any person opinions. She didn't recommend any procedure over another.



if you regret what you had done, oh well. but don't lash out, aggress, rant and rage for no valid reason.



Personally I appreciate the links to medical information. Maybe with the OP's username, she is a doctor (don't know, but we can ask), too and is simply providing to the community here some inside info and she gave links for us to see if we wanted to check it out. Or, simply...we could probably just ask for her to expound if necessary ("please post the additional link"), or we take whatever any of us share here and discuss it with our doctors.



It's likely some of our doctors was at that "Obesity Week" conference, so I'm glad for the info!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say thank you and feel free to share more inside info for my consideration, as I try to decide on what I want to have done because knowledge is a good thing, especially when it's from the group of doctors who do this type surgery. I thank the OP--original poster I think TMF should say he's sorry for his misplaced rant. It's posts like that that make folks not wish to visit boards.



I will determine what I will have done, but info is good...especially if it's "inside info", as the links obviously are. All the facts add up. She had no reason to attempt to deceive us. It seems that many here are aiming to be helpful, though some might seek to have 'fun' stirring up trouble.