Little Green

Really??? LOL I actually think it's pretty darn different. The standard advice is to eat your Protein (and the word "protein" in that context almost always means meat or dairy) first and then if you can fit in other healthy foods, do it. (As you mentioned in your post, fitting in 1-2 oz of broccoli around your protein, maybe, if you have room.)
In contrast to this Dr. Weiner strongly emphasizes eating vegetables first and fitting in protein around that. He also recommends plant foods - veggies and legumes and fruit and raw nuts - ahead of meat and dairy and has fairly low protein requirements - about 50g compared to many bariatric plans encouraging 80-100g.
(Of course he isn't vegan by any stretch and I've seen him recommend yogurt smoothies and small amounts of animal protein, etc. He even said in one video that he doesn't think that a fully plant-based diet is "necessary for the general population." So yeah, while we're claiming him he's not necessarily "ours," know what I mean? Just a good resource!)
While Dr. Weiner's diet is "low carb" compared to our pre-op sugary diets, it's certainly not low carb in the bariatric sense. You can't eat many fruits and certainly not any Beans and whole grains and still remain under 30-50g carbs. It's also low-fat. Difficult to be low-fat and low-carb at the same time!
He also promotes eating in abundance instead of focusing on calories, a huge difference from most bariatric plans. You just need to eat your abundance from healthy plant foods (Obviously you still end up eating fewer calories because you're eating high-volume, low-calorie foods but it's the mindset that helps make a difference!)
So on a spectrum with keto/Atkins on the left and veganism on the right I'd say he's definitely well across the center line to the right, while most bariatric plans are basically Keto except with low-fat dairy and some wiggle room for beans.
Sorry for the long post, Fluff - I am fully carbed again, having eaten an abundance of fruit, oats, and rice in the last couple of days that I've been free from my liquid diet. So I'm all peppy and ready to argue again!!! Heehee!

I've thought about it, but no. I need a solid date and solid plans and solid food and... solidarity and... solidness. No more waiting for phone calls.
I'm going to look at the bright side. (I'm sorry my thread has been full of mood whiplash, lol.) One nice thing is spring break at school is March 5-11 so I won't be missing classes that week and may even be able to go back on the 12th depending on how I'm feeling. I'm sure there are other nice things I'll think of. I'm having WLS and changing my life. Ultimately it won't matter when it was. Just need to get my husband's work stuff sorted out and then we'll be good.

Dang girl! I'm sorry to hear about the delay, but completely understand it. It feels logical to me--especially if having the insurance companies blessing will carry forward through then? I think for you--summer would be the ideal time to do this. Plus, you wouldn't have the stress of hub's job on your shoulders either. Just don't check out. Continue to do your diet, and continue posting here and improving!!! I would miss you like cray cray!!! ((hugs))

So I'm going to take the next few days and mull this over, but I'm considering postponing my surgery to May. (I have authorization from the insco through June.) The point of all the hurrying was to get it done in February before everything with my husband's job imploded... now that it's in March and whatever happens with the insurance will happen regardless, it's more of a PITA than anything else because it's in the middle of my school semester.
I'm feeling so amazed at how everything got so complicated, lol. I originally wanted to have surgery in December but I screwed it up when I missed an appointment and had to restart my 6-month diet. So then the plan was January, but waiting for all the testing to be completed pushed it back again. Now you guys know the story of February in painful detail so I won't repeat that... and now it's in March. So................ I just don't see the difference between March & May, practically speaking, and May is more convenient in many ways.
Again, I'm going to sleep on it for a bit. I don't want to be rash. I'll discuss with my support system and make a list of pros & cons before deciding.




(Is it super petty that one of the appeals of having surgery in May is that one of the pieces we're singing in the music program this semester has a high C and I'm the only one who can hit it-- and I was worried that I wouldn't get to sing it after surgery???? Lolololol okay don't answer that. *angel face*)

Awww. How sweet you are I'm going to regret it again when I restart liquids, I know!

You guys, Larry derailed the topic. Honestly I think @BigViffer had the right idea and to me it's more likely Larry was a scammer than an actual perv. He cast a very wide net trying to find a mark, but we all reported him right away so he went bye-bye. I thought it was funny - but I'm really sorry it made people uncomfortable and I hope none of my jokey comments added to that discomfort.

http://gamechangersmovie.com/
I haven't seen it yet-- I'm not sure it's out yet actually, but Dr. Greger mentioned it on his Facebook page and said this is the best and most evidence-based vegan documentary he's seen yet! James Cameron is the executive producer and it also features Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think this is going to be HUGE! And hopefully reach a ton of people to get them eating the healthiest diet! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

OMG I remember those days... I made it as easy as possible by using technology
Breadmachine, crockpot etc.
Now my children are in charge of some of the work! Yay for teenagers
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All? So if you are some quinoa you’d feel like eating another serving? I don’t get that way with complex carbs. For sure simple...like donuts and crap.

wow... are you for real?
if so - PM me, sexy, so we can get to know each other better.
i need you.
i want you.

Yes. It's tough because I'm the same guy I was before...people talk to me now that wouldn't give me the time of day before. I don't like that but need to get over it!

VSG 10/11/17 HW = 360 SW = 292 CW = 228.8 GW = 220 (6'5")

Definitely. And I was “only” on the low end of obese. Strangers meet my gaze more, smile more, and seem nicer. I am not skinny, not even quite down to normal weight but getting there.
it makes me sad to see first hand how fat people are not considered as worthy as lesser weight people. This is a truth, and I don’t like it. I don’t know what to do about it.

@Little Green I hope to high heaven you knew I was kidding in my other thread hon!!! Please please let me know you did!?

Dr. Voung is a Pescatarian who enjoys the occasional steak. :-)
I have a mostly vegetarian adult son who won't eat chicken because its "fowl" << haha
I'm reading up on various options for meeting Protein requirements after surgery. Thanks for the link to Dr. Greger.

Really??? LOL I actually think it's pretty darn different. The standard advice is to eat your Protein (and the word "protein" in that context almost always means meat or dairy) first and then if you can fit in other healthy foods, do it. (As you mentioned in your post, fitting in 1-2 oz of broccoli around your protein, maybe, if you have room.)
In contrast to this Dr. Weiner strongly emphasizes eating vegetables first and fitting in protein around that. He also recommends plant foods - veggies and legumes and fruit and raw nuts - ahead of meat and dairy and has fairly low protein requirements - about 50g compared to many bariatric plans encouraging 80-100g.
(Of course he isn't vegan by any stretch and I've seen him recommend yogurt smoothies and small amounts of animal protein, etc. He even said in one video that he doesn't think that a fully plant-based diet is "necessary for the general population." So yeah, while we're claiming him he's not necessarily "ours," know what I mean? Just a good resource!)
While Dr. Weiner's diet is "low carb" compared to our pre-op sugary diets, it's certainly not low carb in the bariatric sense. You can't eat many fruits and certainly not any Beans and whole grains and still remain under 30-50g carbs. It's also low-fat. Difficult to be low-fat and low-carb at the same time!
He also promotes eating in abundance instead of focusing on calories, a huge difference from most bariatric plans. You just need to eat your abundance from healthy plant foods (Obviously you still end up eating fewer calories because you're eating high-volume, low-calorie foods but it's the mindset that helps make a difference!)
So on a spectrum with keto/Atkins on the left and veganism on the right I'd say he's definitely well across the center line to the right, while most bariatric plans are basically Keto except with low-fat dairy and some wiggle room for beans.
Sorry for the long post, Fluff - I am fully carbed again, having eaten an abundance of fruit, oats, and rice in the last couple of days that I've been free from my liquid diet. So I'm all peppy and ready to argue again!!! Heehee!

Dude you would so dig Dr. Greger. You love research and that's literally what he does - comb through every article published in every English-language medical journal every year and break down research for laypeople. Come on Johnny... join the veggie train with us. There's a metric f-ckton of evidence for it!

Dude you would so dig Dr. Greger. You love research and that's literally what he does - comb through every article published in every English-language medical journal every year and break down research for laypeople. Come on Johnny... join the veggie train with us. There's a metric f-ckton of evidence for it!

Aww, Eddie. You just messaged ME and said you wanted to be the special person close to MY heart! How are you gonna mack on me & Crystal at the same time??? And all the other women you've been posting about in other threads, too?
Please stop. This is gross.

Oh...well, I avoid chicken. Lol. Chicken isn’t all that great for you either, but I don’t believe it could be the only source of getting someone fat, unless maybe tons of fried chicken and processed nuggets, again fried. In fact, I think a lot of meat is bad for you. So...I can’t really argue against his avoidance of chicken, maybe how he presented it though, but again, I don’t know if that’s how he truly presented it either. I guess I’ll do some more digging. If he’s certainly pro-veggie, fruit, and grains for diet, then I’ll probably like him. LOL.
BUT I do not like the Dr V challenge, that’s still just awful IMO. But it’s good food, at least. 😊

Aww, Eddie. You just messaged ME and said you wanted to be the special person close to MY heart! How are you gonna mack on me & Crystal at the same time??? And all the other women you've been posting about in other threads, too?
Please stop. This is gross.

i agree with and follow Dr Weiner’s approach 100%.
that shady-ass “Dr” Duc Vuong is a fraud and a quack. run, don’t walk, away from his videos.

We do have COBRA coverage... if it comes to that. It's $1500 a month *guts clench violently* but that's cheaper than self-paying for surgery. I'm just not sure how it works and if it's considered like a continuation of the previous policy where all the coverages and claims are still Kosher, or if it's a new policy that starts, or what. Right now my husband is pretty sure he can get back to work before then, although my blood pressure is still not ready to hear all the details of that situation yet maybe another day or so of solid food and then I'll be ready.

I don't expect anyone to believe me at this point but they moved my date again lol. March 8. So get ready, maybe, kinda sorta. Until the next update.

Aww, Eddie. You just messaged ME and said you wanted to be the special person close to MY heart! How are you gonna mack on me & Crystal at the same time??? And all the other women you've been posting about in other threads, too?
Please stop. This is gross.