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@@bookpusher I would use supplementation but keep trying with the other options. Try pureeing even foods that already seem fairly loose (like cottage cheese). I've never heard of not supplementing for at least the beginning. My doctor wants me on stage 3 but I can't tolerate it so I eat something and see how it goes and sometimes I can keep it down. As soon as I hit something that makes me throw up again I dial back to stage 2 for at least a day and then continue. It's a journey.

Yeah, I think this question says more about the asker's feeling about themselves than anything else. I'm betting you don't hear it from people who haven't struggled yo-yo dieting. I mean, unless they are assholes.
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I think more people have those thoughts than don't!
But the thing is, the main point of the surgery isn't really losing weight. As someone who has lost 60+ pounds on 3 different occasions and 10 pounds countless times, I can tell you there are plenty of less drastic ways to lose weight.
The point of this surgery is maintaining weight loss. The chances of being able to do that without surgery are ridiculously low, but with surgery they are decent. The most recent and best study I saw for people with morbid obesity like myself showed that 1 in 677 can lose and maintain a healthy weight without surgery. My experience shows me I'm not that 1. Of course, YMMV...
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I think more people have those thoughts than don't!
But the thing is, the main point of the surgery isn't really losing weight. As someone who has lost 60+ pounds on 3 different occasions and 10 pounds countless times, I can tell you there are plenty of less drastic ways to lose weight.
The point of this surgery is maintaining weight loss. The chances of being able to do that without surgery are ridiculously low, but with surgery they are decent. The most recent and best study I saw for people with morbid obesity like myself showed that 1 in 677 can lose and maintain a healthy weight without surgery. My experience shows me I'm not that 1. Of course, YMMV...
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Oh wow! That's a huge percentage. I am very curious as to why that is when more men could technically benefit from the surgery.
Edit: Hmm... guess I was wrong. When you look at this page it shows that while a higher percentage of men are "overweight or obese", the numbers are the same for men and women who are obese and the percentage of women who have "extreme obesity" is higher than the percentage of men.

(Light blue is men, dark blue is women)

I think more people have those thoughts than don't!
But the thing is, the main point of the surgery isn't really losing weight. As someone who has lost 60+ pounds on 3 different occasions and 10 pounds countless times, I can tell you there are plenty of less drastic ways to lose weight.
The point of this surgery is maintaining weight loss. The chances of being able to do that without surgery are ridiculously low, but with surgery they are decent. The most recent and best study I saw for people with morbid obesity like myself showed that 1 in 677 can lose and maintain a healthy weight without surgery. My experience shows me I'm not that 1. Of course, YMMV...
VSG 1/20/17 HW: 325 SW:294 CW: 290

I think more people have those thoughts than don't!
But the thing is, the main point of the surgery isn't really losing weight. As someone who has lost 60+ pounds on 3 different occasions and 10 pounds countless times, I can tell you there are plenty of less drastic ways to lose weight.
The point of this surgery is maintaining weight loss. The chances of being able to do that without surgery are ridiculously low, but with surgery they are decent. The most recent and best study I saw for people with morbid obesity like myself showed that 1 in 677 can lose and maintain a healthy weight without surgery. My experience shows me I'm not that 1. Of course, YMMV...
VSG 1/20/17 HW: 325 SW:294 CW: 290

I think more people have those thoughts than don't!
But the thing is, the main point of the surgery isn't really losing weight. As someone who has lost 60+ pounds on 3 different occasions and 10 pounds countless times, I can tell you there are plenty of less drastic ways to lose weight.
The point of this surgery is maintaining weight loss. The chances of being able to do that without surgery are ridiculously low, but with surgery they are decent. The most recent and best study I saw for people with morbid obesity like myself showed that 1 in 677 can lose and maintain a healthy weight without surgery. My experience shows me I'm not that 1. Of course, YMMV...
VSG 1/20/17 HW: 325 SW:294 CW: 290

I think more people have those thoughts than don't!
But the thing is, the main point of the surgery isn't really losing weight. As someone who has lost 60+ pounds on 3 different occasions and 10 pounds countless times, I can tell you there are plenty of less drastic ways to lose weight.
The point of this surgery is maintaining weight loss. The chances of being able to do that without surgery are ridiculously low, but with surgery they are decent. The most recent and best study I saw for people with morbid obesity like myself showed that 1 in 677 can lose and maintain a healthy weight without surgery. My experience shows me I'm not that 1. Of course, YMMV...
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I didn't use almost anything I brought. They really had everything.
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I would tell them that's what I used to think too, before I looked into it, and that sadly there is no such thing as an easy way out. WLS just evens the playing field, so that people with chronic obesity can have a reasonable chance at maintaining weight loss. It doesn't magically make it happen, as the 40% of people who don't maintain it can attest. However, compared to the more than 99% who fail with "traditional" methods alone, I'll take it!
People who talk about "the easy way out" may not even realize that they are equating a disease with a moral failing. Science doesn't bear that out, and you shouldn't buy into it either. If you had hyperthyroidism and needed your thyroid removed, would you feel guilty about taking the easy way out? Or would you try to use will power to even out your hormones?
Chronic obesity is a misunderstood disease that requires lifelong management. But, hell, if there was an easy way, I'd take it in a heartbeat. There is no prize in this life for people who beat their heads against a wall.
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When it comes to faces, it does seem like a lot of us go through phases where we look a little sunken and sickly, but it does seem to even out eventually. Age seems to have a lot to do with it. For younger people, the skin and plumpness seem to bounce back eventually in maintenance. For older people, they can end up with some sagging skin in their neck and jowls.
But I will say the same thing about this as I do to the people who fear hair loss and loose skin... no one ever died from it. People die every single day from obesity-related illnesses!

You really have to throw away the old diet mindset which equated low calories with accelerated weight loss. Getting in your Protein and Water is the most important - not fretting over calories. You will feel the restriction once you start eating Protein dense foods like chicken, turkey, shrimp, etc. Once I was cleared for all foods, about 31 days out, 3 bites of chicken filled me up. That's why "protein first" is the golden rule after WLS. You won't have room for anything else!
I would say that about a month out I was getting in about 400 - 600 calories. At 3 months, I'm now up to 800 - 1000 which my surgeon's nurse said is about right. My protein goal is 70 - 90.

Everyone is doing fine. It really doesn't matter how fast you lose as long as you are losing. Your rate of weight loss has absolutely nothing to do with whether you will hit goal or not and you seem to be in the normal range. It really annoys me that doctors sell the best case scenario to folks and set them up for disappointment. Here is an example of a longer term sleevers weight loss that was posted before I hope this put things into perspective.
Please readjust expectations and focus on what you are accomplishing and not what you haven't. The fast losers are a small percentage as are the ones who exceed goal. It is far from the norm.

Ok thank you for the helpful information i was a little down earlier but I'm getting back on track now. Sent from my LG-H901 using the BariatricPal App

The gas pain is the number one complaint of most WLS patients in the early days. As much as you don't want to, walking really will help get rid of it faster. So get up and walk around as much as you can stand to.

I HIGHLY recommend taking at least a week off. One of my incisions stings like a b**** and I am 5 days post op. I couldn't imagine being somewhat physical so soon. Not only are your incisions healing but a lot of people still experience nausea and vomiting even after 3-4 days post off. Don't do it to yourself!!! Your body needs to rest and heal.
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Most of us get Protein in the early days post-op from our Protein Shakes. Depending on what kind you are drinking, you should be trying to get in 2-3 of those a day. Yes, they are filling. Everything is at that stage. VERY surprised you are on Weetabix so soon post-op, but every plan is different. If you are doing okay with the eggs, those are also a very good source of protein. Another is Greek yogurt if you are allowed that at this point.

I think most people go through something similar. It's human nature. Here are the things that helped me.
First, create a line for yourself. Once the pre-op diet starts, there is no such thing as cheating. Not following the diet is seriously endangering your health, not a naughty misbehavior. This will be true until you are fully healed, so you can't allow yourself to think of cheating as an option.
Second, remember the scarcity is not true. You'll be able to eat those things again for the most part, eventually. Not in the same quantities and not frequently, but it's not like this is your last chance to taste it ever.
Third, read The Diet Trap Solution or one of the other books by Judith Beck and actually do what it says. It's not a diet book, per se, but a cognitive behavioral therapy book focused on weight loss. If you faithfully practice the CBT principals, it will be much easier.
And finally, come to terms with the fact that this sucks but you are up to it. food can't be your entertainment or comfort anymore. It's just fuel now, at least for the next few months. But life goes on, and food is really only a small part of it.
Good luck!! You can do it!!
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I think most people go through something similar. It's human nature. Here are the things that helped me.
First, create a line for yourself. Once the pre-op diet starts, there is no such thing as cheating. Not following the diet is seriously endangering your health, not a naughty misbehavior. This will be true until you are fully healed, so you can't allow yourself to think of cheating as an option.
Second, remember the scarcity is not true. You'll be able to eat those things again for the most part, eventually. Not in the same quantities and not frequently, but it's not like this is your last chance to taste it ever.
Third, read The Diet Trap Solution or one of the other books by Judith Beck and actually do what it says. It's not a diet book, per se, but a cognitive behavioral therapy book focused on weight loss. If you faithfully practice the CBT principals, it will be much easier.
And finally, come to terms with the fact that this sucks but you are up to it. food can't be your entertainment or comfort anymore. It's just fuel now, at least for the next few months. But life goes on, and food is really only a small part of it.
Good luck!! You can do it!!
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Part of what's helped me get through this is the big realization of how much food controls us. I did the same thing worrying about how can I possibly do this, I can't have x, y, or z for months, and on and on. The only thing I can compare it to is when I quit smoking 5-6 years ago. I used to think I couldn't possibly go to this place or do this thing if I couldn't smoke. Looking back, yeah, it was stupid. Do I miss smoking at times? Sure. But it passes, I realize I don't stink like my coworkers, and I have a helluva lot of extra money.
Don't beat yourself up too bad. Most of us probably have a tendency to want to do a "last hoorah" before those two weeks kick in. It is much more mental than anything. I won't lie and say that it's been a walk in the park, but I'm on Day 13 of my pre-op and it's become a routine now. The past two weeks has been mental training for things on the other side of the surgery and not eating as much as I used to.

Hang in there. You'll get through it.

I think most people go through something similar. It's human nature. Here are the things that helped me.
First, create a line for yourself. Once the pre-op diet starts, there is no such thing as cheating. Not following the diet is seriously endangering your health, not a naughty misbehavior. This will be true until you are fully healed, so you can't allow yourself to think of cheating as an option.
Second, remember the scarcity is not true. You'll be able to eat those things again for the most part, eventually. Not in the same quantities and not frequently, but it's not like this is your last chance to taste it ever.
Third, read The Diet Trap Solution or one of the other books by Judith Beck and actually do what it says. It's not a diet book, per se, but a cognitive behavioral therapy book focused on weight loss. If you faithfully practice the CBT principals, it will be much easier.
And finally, come to terms with the fact that this sucks but you are up to it. food can't be your entertainment or comfort anymore. It's just fuel now, at least for the next few months. But life goes on, and food is really only a small part of it.
Good luck!! You can do it!!
VSG 1/20/17 HW: 325 SW:294 CW: 296

I think most people go through something similar. It's human nature. Here are the things that helped me.
First, create a line for yourself. Once the pre-op diet starts, there is no such thing as cheating. Not following the diet is seriously endangering your health, not a naughty misbehavior. This will be true until you are fully healed, so you can't allow yourself to think of cheating as an option.
Second, remember the scarcity is not true. You'll be able to eat those things again for the most part, eventually. Not in the same quantities and not frequently, but it's not like this is your last chance to taste it ever.
Third, read The Diet Trap Solution or one of the other books by Judith Beck and actually do what it says. It's not a diet book, per se, but a cognitive behavioral therapy book focused on weight loss. If you faithfully practice the CBT principals, it will be much easier.
And finally, come to terms with the fact that this sucks but you are up to it. food can't be your entertainment or comfort anymore. It's just fuel now, at least for the next few months. But life goes on, and food is really only a small part of it.
Good luck!! You can do it!!
VSG 1/20/17 HW: 325 SW:294 CW: 296

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I would tell them that's what I used to think too, before I looked into it, and that sadly there is no such thing as an easy way out. WLS just evens the playing field, so that people with chronic obesity can have a reasonable chance at maintaining weight loss. It doesn't magically make it happen, as the 40% of people who don't maintain it can attest. However, compared to the more than 99% who fail with "traditional" methods alone, I'll take it!
People who talk about "the easy way out" may not even realize that they are equating a disease with a moral failing. Science doesn't bear that out, and you shouldn't buy into it either. If you had hyperthyroidism and needed your thyroid removed, would you feel guilty about taking the easy way out? Or would you try to use will power to even out your hormones?
Chronic obesity is a misunderstood disease that requires lifelong management. But, hell, if there was an easy way, I'd take it in a heartbeat. There is no prize in this life for people who beat their heads against a wall.
VSG 1/20/17 HW: 325 SW:294 CW: 296