Hammer_Down

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You are not alone with the malnourished obese phenomenon. Since obesity is primarily a hormonal issue and not a gluttony issue, many (perhaps most) obese people also show deficiencies of Vitamins and minerals and signs of malnourishment.
While a calorie is a scientific measurement, it cannot be said that all foods affect us the same way. Calories from carbs increase blood sugar, insulin response, contribute to insulin and leptin resistance. Calories from meat do none of those things.
If I eat a single slice of bread, I will not lose weight for 1-2 days. A few years back I became basically carnivorous for 2 years and regularly ate 4000 calories a day of mostly red meat (poultry has too much Protein and too low fat content and causes me to stall) and I lost 100 lbs in 18 months and put on substantial muscle without really trying.

Your skin is an organ, and like every organ is requires certain nutrients to flourish and maintain health.
Dietary fat is an essential component to maintaining healthy skin. Saturated fats especially.
My mom has a cousin who has followed the low fat no saturated fat mantra for many years. My mom, a pharmacist, never bought into that craze and has always consumed red meats and real butter (she told us margarine has more chemicals than paint growing up).
They are almost the same age, and both quite slim in their 60s. The huge difference is that my mom has smooth skin, tans easily and almost no wrinkles. Her cousin is very pale and has tissue paper like skin, and is quite wrinkly. My mom looks 20 years younger.

That's how I feel exactly. I'm just praying that he will turn around afterwards when he can see that I will still be me n love him the same. But if he doesn't see it or continues to be a butt, I will have no other choice except to walk alone.
Well said, lol, very well said.

A liquid is basically anything you can suck through a straw. Caveat because, yes, one newer post op member here asked the question... MILKSHAKES DON'T COUNT.
As @@Hammer_Down said, Clear Liquids are generally low calorie or calorie free and you can read a label through them. Water, tea, broth, SF flavor enhanced drinks like Crystal Light or Gatorade would all count. No, you can't have fruit juices either. Too much sugar.
Full liquids would include Protein shakes (watch the carbs!), Soups like Tomato, bisque, creamed veggie, etc. But again, watch the calories and fat. You don't want to consume creamy potato and cheese because that would defeat the purpose.
Liquids is basically....liquids. Some diets will include yogurt, sf Jello or pudding, and Popsicle on the liquid side, but that's up to you.

At the risk of sounding like a sarcastic jerk, I will lay it all out for you:
It's only liquids. Many doctors prescribe a clear liquid diet, which is all Clear Liquids. If you're avoiding sweeteners, that's basically a tea, broth and Water diet. I was on that for 10 days, 3 preop and 7 post op. We were allowed sugar free Gatorade and popsicles, but artificial sweeteners tend to make me crave sweet foods so I avoid them all.

Your skin is an organ, and like every organ is requires certain nutrients to flourish and maintain health.
Dietary fat is an essential component to maintaining healthy skin. Saturated fats especially.
My mom has a cousin who has followed the low fat no saturated fat mantra for many years. My mom, a pharmacist, never bought into that craze and has always consumed red meats and real butter (she told us margarine has more chemicals than paint growing up).
They are almost the same age, and both quite slim in their 60s. The huge difference is that my mom has smooth skin, tans easily and almost no wrinkles. Her cousin is very pale and has tissue paper like skin, and is quite wrinkly. My mom looks 20 years younger.

I'm pretty much there at only 6 weeks post op, I'm back on solid foods, I have no pain or issues sleeping, etc. I have yet to regurgitate anything I've eaten. I'm eating very small portions (3 bites of salad or meat and I'm stuffed). I'm reminding myself to make every bite count.
I can't really tolerate Vitamins at this stage. The few times I've taken them, I feel kind of uneasy and nauseaous. So i'm giving myself some time before I start trying again.
In a few days I'll be clear for excercise. I DO notice that I fatigue pretty easily. Honestly, I haven't been active at all for the past few years (hence gaining 100lbs) so I can't be sure if I would be fatigued anyway, or it's the super low calories or both.
I don't think about the surgery often, enjoying the lack of hunger and mending up nicely.

food funerals are a very common topic on this website.
I struggle to understand it, but that's just my own experience. I paid out of pocket for the procedure and so I was committed with my mind and pocketbook to making sure I am successful, no matter what.
When I received my preop and post op plans, I started comparing all my food choices against my surgeon's directions. If it was something I shouldn't be eating to be successful after surgery, I tried to cut it out before starting the process. I ended up doing an extra few weeks of preop because I was anxious to get the ball rolling.
The kinds of foods I crave are my nemesis, not my friends. I wouldn't mourn the loss of someone that ruined my life and ditto for the foods that contributed to my weight gain. Good riddance, I say.

2 things:
Your thyroid is primarily in control of regulating body temperature. My mom has a hypothyroid and before she was diagnosed her hands were always freezing. We often move tables in a restaurant 2-3 times before she can find one that's warm enough to take her jacket off. Losing weight downregulates the thyroid, so perhaps this is what's causing all this chillyness among ye. Body fat actually increases your surface area, which increases your sensitivity to cold, so it wasn't the fat keeping you warm before.
Secondly, 8 layers of non suitable fabrics are not as good as a single layer of appropriate fabric. Yes, many layers will slow the heat loss but they will not retain and hold heat close to your body.
Your jacket doesn't keep you warm - you keep your jacket warm.
Real down filled bedding, real down jackets/pants and wool are the only truly appropriate fabrics for winter layers.
It's good enough for the Canadian military stationed in the arctic, so it ought to keep you warm enough south of the Mason Dixon line.

2 things:
Your thyroid is primarily in control of regulating body temperature. My mom has a hypothyroid and before she was diagnosed her hands were always freezing. We often move tables in a restaurant 2-3 times before she can find one that's warm enough to take her jacket off. Losing weight downregulates the thyroid, so perhaps this is what's causing all this chillyness among ye. Body fat actually increases your surface area, which increases your sensitivity to cold, so it wasn't the fat keeping you warm before.
Secondly, 8 layers of non suitable fabrics are not as good as a single layer of appropriate fabric. Yes, many layers will slow the heat loss but they will not retain and hold heat close to your body.
Your jacket doesn't keep you warm - you keep your jacket warm.
Real down filled bedding, real down jackets/pants and wool are the only truly appropriate fabrics for winter layers.
It's good enough for the Canadian military stationed in the arctic, so it ought to keep you warm enough south of the Mason Dixon line.

food funerals are a very common topic on this website.
I struggle to understand it, but that's just my own experience. I paid out of pocket for the procedure and so I was committed with my mind and pocketbook to making sure I am successful, no matter what.
When I received my preop and post op plans, I started comparing all my food choices against my surgeon's directions. If it was something I shouldn't be eating to be successful after surgery, I tried to cut it out before starting the process. I ended up doing an extra few weeks of preop because I was anxious to get the ball rolling.
The kinds of foods I crave are my nemesis, not my friends. I wouldn't mourn the loss of someone that ruined my life and ditto for the foods that contributed to my weight gain. Good riddance, I say.

Your skin is an organ, and like every organ is requires certain nutrients to flourish and maintain health.
Dietary fat is an essential component to maintaining healthy skin. Saturated fats especially.
My mom has a cousin who has followed the low fat no saturated fat mantra for many years. My mom, a pharmacist, never bought into that craze and has always consumed red meats and real butter (she told us margarine has more chemicals than paint growing up).
They are almost the same age, and both quite slim in their 60s. The huge difference is that my mom has smooth skin, tans easily and almost no wrinkles. Her cousin is very pale and has tissue paper like skin, and is quite wrinkly. My mom looks 20 years younger.

I'm pretty much there at only 6 weeks post op, I'm back on solid foods, I have no pain or issues sleeping, etc. I have yet to regurgitate anything I've eaten. I'm eating very small portions (3 bites of salad or meat and I'm stuffed). I'm reminding myself to make every bite count.
I can't really tolerate Vitamins at this stage. The few times I've taken them, I feel kind of uneasy and nauseaous. So i'm giving myself some time before I start trying again.
In a few days I'll be clear for excercise. I DO notice that I fatigue pretty easily. Honestly, I haven't been active at all for the past few years (hence gaining 100lbs) so I can't be sure if I would be fatigued anyway, or it's the super low calories or both.
I don't think about the surgery often, enjoying the lack of hunger and mending up nicely.

My wife and I both had surgery. We told her parents before travelling to Tijuana and it went ok. They knew we did our homework and were mostly just worried about us having surgery so far from home.
I Knew my parents (mom, really) would be worried sick and not especially supportive of having an elective surgery. I called them the night we got home and told them that it wasn't just an anniversary vacation in Tijuana, but that we'd had surgery. Lots of questions, which I did my best to answer. Mom confirmed that she happy I hadn't told her ahead of time as she wouldn't have slept for a week.
Other than 1 of my friends, no one else knows. The friend who knows was the person who first got me thinking about bariatric surgery, as she was planning to get it done. Now, I seldom hear from her and she's totally reversed her position on the surgery. The last few times we'be texted, anytime my weight loss comes up she ghosts me and disappears for a few weeks.

Your skin is an organ, and like every organ is requires certain nutrients to flourish and maintain health.
Dietary fat is an essential component to maintaining healthy skin. Saturated fats especially.
My mom has a cousin who has followed the low fat no saturated fat mantra for many years. My mom, a pharmacist, never bought into that craze and has always consumed red meats and real butter (she told us margarine has more chemicals than paint growing up).
They are almost the same age, and both quite slim in their 60s. The huge difference is that my mom has smooth skin, tans easily and almost no wrinkles. Her cousin is very pale and has tissue paper like skin, and is quite wrinkly. My mom looks 20 years younger.

I'm pretty much there at only 6 weeks post op, I'm back on solid foods, I have no pain or issues sleeping, etc. I have yet to regurgitate anything I've eaten. I'm eating very small portions (3 bites of salad or meat and I'm stuffed). I'm reminding myself to make every bite count.
I can't really tolerate Vitamins at this stage. The few times I've taken them, I feel kind of uneasy and nauseaous. So i'm giving myself some time before I start trying again.
In a few days I'll be clear for excercise. I DO notice that I fatigue pretty easily. Honestly, I haven't been active at all for the past few years (hence gaining 100lbs) so I can't be sure if I would be fatigued anyway, or it's the super low calories or both.
I don't think about the surgery often, enjoying the lack of hunger and mending up nicely.

food funerals are a very common topic on this website.
I struggle to understand it, but that's just my own experience. I paid out of pocket for the procedure and so I was committed with my mind and pocketbook to making sure I am successful, no matter what.
When I received my preop and post op plans, I started comparing all my food choices against my surgeon's directions. If it was something I shouldn't be eating to be successful after surgery, I tried to cut it out before starting the process. I ended up doing an extra few weeks of preop because I was anxious to get the ball rolling.
The kinds of foods I crave are my nemesis, not my friends. I wouldn't mourn the loss of someone that ruined my life and ditto for the foods that contributed to my weight gain. Good riddance, I say.

food funerals are a very common topic on this website.
I struggle to understand it, but that's just my own experience. I paid out of pocket for the procedure and so I was committed with my mind and pocketbook to making sure I am successful, no matter what.
When I received my preop and post op plans, I started comparing all my food choices against my surgeon's directions. If it was something I shouldn't be eating to be successful after surgery, I tried to cut it out before starting the process. I ended up doing an extra few weeks of preop because I was anxious to get the ball rolling.
The kinds of foods I crave are my nemesis, not my friends. I wouldn't mourn the loss of someone that ruined my life and ditto for the foods that contributed to my weight gain. Good riddance, I say.

Your skin is an organ, and like every organ is requires certain nutrients to flourish and maintain health.
Dietary fat is an essential component to maintaining healthy skin. Saturated fats especially.
My mom has a cousin who has followed the low fat no saturated fat mantra for many years. My mom, a pharmacist, never bought into that craze and has always consumed red meats and real butter (she told us margarine has more chemicals than paint growing up).
They are almost the same age, and both quite slim in their 60s. The huge difference is that my mom has smooth skin, tans easily and almost no wrinkles. Her cousin is very pale and has tissue paper like skin, and is quite wrinkly. My mom looks 20 years younger.

The scale becomes an addiction for many people. They discount the positive things that are happening with their weight loss if the scalar doesn't reflect the number they want. They build up expectations and are disappointed when it's "only" xx lbs lost.
The scale is a snapshot, not scientific. Someone might weigh, eat a cupcake, then weigh again and show a loss of .5 lbs. The natural conclusion? Eat cupcakes to lose weight! Our weight is dynamic and changing all the time. Getting upset over a 1-2lb gain is going to release cortisol which is a stress hormone that promotes weight gain.
Getting worried over nothing can literally give you something to worry about.
I weigh once a week when I am home. More because I am curious. I'm expecting a stall any week now (haven't had one yet) and I'm not hung up on the numbers. I feel good, my clothes are getting looser, I see it in my face and hands, my rings are loose - so I know I'm going the right way.

I'm pretty much there at only 6 weeks post op, I'm back on solid foods, I have no pain or issues sleeping, etc. I have yet to regurgitate anything I've eaten. I'm eating very small portions (3 bites of salad or meat and I'm stuffed). I'm reminding myself to make every bite count.
I can't really tolerate Vitamins at this stage. The few times I've taken them, I feel kind of uneasy and nauseaous. So i'm giving myself some time before I start trying again.
In a few days I'll be clear for excercise. I DO notice that I fatigue pretty easily. Honestly, I haven't been active at all for the past few years (hence gaining 100lbs) so I can't be sure if I would be fatigued anyway, or it's the super low calories or both.
I don't think about the surgery often, enjoying the lack of hunger and mending up nicely.

I'm curious about your statement at the end about Atkins not being healthy for the body? The Atkins plan is a high fat, moderate Protein and low carb diet - which is similar to what many WLS patients follow.
Eating low carb diets have been shown to improve cardiovascular health, regulate blood sugar and insulin in diabetics and non diabetics, promote weight loss and the list goes on.
Fats are essential for health. Protein is essential for health. Did you know that your liver produces 280g of glucose (carbs) per day? Or that your lover also has the ability to create glucose out of excess protein (gluconeogensis)? Eating carbs is absolutely not required, not even a minimal amount. Your body is able to produce all the glucose it needs from or cellular and brain function without ever eating any sugar.

Sorry to say, never for me. I always have to be thinking about what I am eating, how fast i am eating it, how often i am eating.
In maintenance for me it has become even more critical because I am always concerned about regain. It is easy to do, 1 lb becomes 2, and before you know it you have gained 5....and so on.
Also, I might add that it always has to be discussed when going to the doctor and you need to be well educated. Most general doctors dont know enough about how those of us with different digestive systems need to be treated.
When I changed insurance companies my bariatric team is no longer covered so my general doctor had to take over completely and I have had to get information from my old team just to educate her enough to order the right tests and monitor my nutrition which is absolutely critical for a bypass patient.
You do get used to it, for me it is a whole new way of life and took hold almost before my surgery.
It just becomes the way that it is.

Very much agree with Hammer_Down. Natural fats such as in butter and full fat milk are very important to maintain skin health and elasticity. Just have them in reasonable quantities.
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Your skin is an organ, and like every organ is requires certain nutrients to flourish and maintain health.
Dietary fat is an essential component to maintaining healthy skin. Saturated fats especially.
My mom has a cousin who has followed the low fat no saturated fat mantra for many years. My mom, a pharmacist, never bought into that craze and has always consumed red meats and real butter (she told us margarine has more chemicals than paint growing up).
They are almost the same age, and both quite slim in their 60s. The huge difference is that my mom has smooth skin, tans easily and almost no wrinkles. Her cousin is very pale and has tissue paper like skin, and is quite wrinkly. My mom looks 20 years younger.