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Omg @@Dub i am salivating just looking at those wings... drool... well since you prefer the drumstick part... i would be happy to fly half way across the world for the left over midwings lol.. yum...

Have you had your thyroid checked? A lot of times a hypothyroid can mimic pcos and insulin resistance.
Also, have you had all your hormones checked? Progesterone, estradiol, estrogen, testosterone, dhea, prolactin etc

Well the fact you have had two surgeries, i highly doubt you would have major weight loss with a 3rd. The shock value of reducing calories is gone, and your metabolism would have adjusted to it.
I know for certain that weight loss is slower 2nd time around, so i would imagine how much slower it would be a 3rd.
Sorry i am not trying to be a negative nelly, but thats just how our bodies work.... its a fact that you lose slower and slower with each revision, and being a lower BMI also works against you.
Perhaps try your pre op diet again? Cut out carbs and sugars and stick to high Protein and see how much you can achieve doing that. Are you exercising?

Grr i know exactly how you feel... families can suck sometimes... they seem to think they can say whatever and we should just accept it.... i know its annoying and it hurts... but i have learned that its not worth taking it to heart.. I've learned to take it with a grain of salt..... but it is annoying i feel your pain

You will be able to eat more with the sleeve as you have had the band.... the band causes dilation of the esophagus which reduces our sensitivity.. in turn this enables us to have more food due to the reduced pressure.
I am the same, i could have half a cup straight out after revision to the sleeve... even now i have no issues drinking 1 litre of Water in one sitting, i can gulp Water with ease....
I could probably have 1 cup of food if i really tried.. but i don't allow myself to try, i measure out my food and don't eat till i am full.... i eat till i am satisfied and not feeling hunger... as an ex bander weight loss is lower too.. and yes it is very frustrating!
You have not failed.. you have succeeded... you are close to goal... you are not as far away as you were before.. remind yourself of that... look how far you have come.. not how far you have to go....
Review your habits honestly, we all can fall into habits that work against us.. its what we do to change them that makes all the difference... go back to basics... it does work...

chicken wings are great! I love love love them... i like the midwing part, so i buy them without the drumstick... 2-3 small midwings are the perfect portion size for me

Oh yay! Finally another sydney sleever! All the other aussies are in other states... welcome to the board

I think a 3rd surgery for 6kg is a little drastic.... have you tried going back to basics? Are you tracking your food? Reaching Protein goals? Whats your diet like?
In my opinion.... 6kg weight gain in 3 years is not bad at all... you can get rid of that with 2 weeks of following your original pre op diet...

Well the fact you have had two surgeries, i highly doubt you would have major weight loss with a 3rd. The shock value of reducing calories is gone, and your metabolism would have adjusted to it.
I know for certain that weight loss is slower 2nd time around, so i would imagine how much slower it would be a 3rd.
Sorry i am not trying to be a negative nelly, but thats just how our bodies work.... its a fact that you lose slower and slower with each revision, and being a lower BMI also works against you.
Perhaps try your pre op diet again? Cut out carbs and sugars and stick to high Protein and see how much you can achieve doing that. Are you exercising?

Yes.. good idea.. a follow up with your surgeon would be good.. perhaps a follow up with the dietitian would be a good idea too.
You seem to know what your issue is, have you tried not having carbs and sugars? Have you asked yourself honestly why you still have them when you know that is what is hindering your weight loss? I know thats a obvious question.. but if that is an issue with the sleeve, it will still be an issue with the bypass... and if you are relying on dumping... not everyone dumps.... ????

Well the fact you have had two surgeries, i highly doubt you would have major weight loss with a 3rd. The shock value of reducing calories is gone, and your metabolism would have adjusted to it.
I know for certain that weight loss is slower 2nd time around, so i would imagine how much slower it would be a 3rd.
Sorry i am not trying to be a negative nelly, but thats just how our bodies work.... its a fact that you lose slower and slower with each revision, and being a lower BMI also works against you.
Perhaps try your pre op diet again? Cut out carbs and sugars and stick to high Protein and see how much you can achieve doing that. Are you exercising?

I think a 3rd surgery for 6kg is a little drastic.... have you tried going back to basics? Are you tracking your food? Reaching Protein goals? Whats your diet like?
In my opinion.... 6kg weight gain in 3 years is not bad at all... you can get rid of that with 2 weeks of following your original pre op diet...

Well the fact you have had two surgeries, i highly doubt you would have major weight loss with a 3rd. The shock value of reducing calories is gone, and your metabolism would have adjusted to it.
I know for certain that weight loss is slower 2nd time around, so i would imagine how much slower it would be a 3rd.
Sorry i am not trying to be a negative nelly, but thats just how our bodies work.... its a fact that you lose slower and slower with each revision, and being a lower BMI also works against you.
Perhaps try your pre op diet again? Cut out carbs and sugars and stick to high Protein and see how much you can achieve doing that. Are you exercising?

None of the following is meant to sound mean or critical (please don't read it that way - just being honest and trying to hit points you may not have considered or might be in denial about).
It's great that you're exercising because it's going to make you feel better overall, but weight gain/loss is 90% food and diet related.
My doc said that all people will lose even eating absolute crap for the first year, but they will regain if they don't take the time to throw out all they know about food/eating and relearn how to properly eat healthy and figure out correct (small) portion sizing.
Your problem seems to be that you're eating things you shouldn't (simple carbs/sugar) and possibly eating too many calories, and that is causing you to regain (simple carbs and sugar are usually high calorie, low nutrition slider foods that make it really easy to overeat).
Are you tracking every bite and sip of food/drink? You probably should be measuring and tracking all of it, especially since you're regaining. You likely are overeating and eating foods low in nutrition as well. It would give you a much better idea of whether the failure is your sleeve or more likely - a disconnect with what and how much you you actually eat. I imagine even consulting another surgeon, they'd like to see how many calories you're consuming and what those calories are made up from to make a truly honest opinion about whether another surgery is a good step for you or not.
Simple carbs and sugar are known to cause you to crave them all the more once you start eating them regularly, so that would explain the feelings of hunger. (you're not really hungry if you are eating good protein/complex carbs and getting enough calories - it's cravings or head hunger)
I would think the answer is counseling with a therapist familiar with food addictions, and a serious mental reset regarding your relationship with food, not more surgery.
I'd suggest you go back to the beginning of a sleeve diet - do a week of Protein liquids, then mushies, then onto solids. Get your Water and Protein and eat good veggies and healthy complex carbs in moderation. You need to research healthy meals and throw out the crap foods and seriously dedicate yourself to resetting your whole food relationship.
That's what we are supposed to do during the honeymoon phase of the sleeve (roughly the first year). If you didn't get your diet stuff down cold, then you won't do well over the long term. It's a sad fact, but most surgeons aren't really driving that point home. The weight loss effects won't last if you regularly eat crap foods. The surgeries allow you a measure of control for you to get back to basics without the gnawing hunger and drastically reduce the portion sizes in the beginning... so you can lose weight and relearn how to eat properly.
Maybe once you've got that stuff down well, you can add back in some sugar treats for very special occasions, but they should never, ever be something you eat regularly again. But maybe, if you can't control yourself, it might come down to eliminating them completely if you want to stay healthy.
I know it's sucky that you aren't doing so well right now, but you can get stuff figured out if you're willing to do the hard work. It might be worth it rather than going to another surgery and hoping that it does all the work; because it won't. You have to do it, the surgery(ies) are just a tool, but they won't work if you don't commit to using them properly.
Good luck!!

I think a 3rd surgery for 6kg is a little drastic.... have you tried going back to basics? Are you tracking your food? Reaching Protein goals? Whats your diet like?
In my opinion.... 6kg weight gain in 3 years is not bad at all... you can get rid of that with 2 weeks of following your original pre op diet...

Well the fact you have had two surgeries, i highly doubt you would have major weight loss with a 3rd. The shock value of reducing calories is gone, and your metabolism would have adjusted to it.
I know for certain that weight loss is slower 2nd time around, so i would imagine how much slower it would be a 3rd.
Sorry i am not trying to be a negative nelly, but thats just how our bodies work.... its a fact that you lose slower and slower with each revision, and being a lower BMI also works against you.
Perhaps try your pre op diet again? Cut out carbs and sugars and stick to high Protein and see how much you can achieve doing that. Are you exercising?

Gina, is it possible to bring your own Soup?
Maybe you can bring your own and explain to the restaurant manager prior to your arrival, and ask them nicely to provide you with a bowl and spoon so you "look" like you are having something from there.
Don't be too hard on yourself.. she won't care what you are eating, she will be happy to just have you there.
Can you get a menu prior, maybe they might have something suitable.
I have become a pro at making it "look" like i haven't had surgery as no one knows i had it done... i usually do some light research before i go and decide prior to going so i don't have the stress of trying to figure it out on the spot

Yay... thats excellent.. this is why its important to get your electrolytes... the potassium and sodium in the electrolytes make a world of difference... glad you figured out what it is

Nice! Well that is the 80%.. makes you realise how small the remainder is and how delicate it is post op
I had asked my doc to do the same thing... but he forgot!

It sounds like a low blood pressure problem... you might be low in sodium or electrolytes.... try having some Gatorade/Powerade... see if that helps
Also, 1 litre a day is not enough... you should aim for 2

It sounds like a low blood pressure problem... you might be low in sodium or electrolytes.... try having some Gatorade/Powerade... see if that helps
Also, 1 litre a day is not enough... you should aim for 2

Nice! Well that is the 80%.. makes you realise how small the remainder is and how delicate it is post op
I had asked my doc to do the same thing... but he forgot!

It will get a little harder once you are on soft/solid foods... but as long as you chew.. eat slowly and take your time.. you should be fine

Some of us are fast healers...
I went shopping when i was discharged from hospital!
The energy lasted about 2 weeks... then week 3 i was a little tired.. but was still able to do stuff... i took it easy though.. i didn't want to crash and burn.... so even though i could... doesn't mean i should... healing is thr priority

Its interesting the foods that everyone can not or will not have.
We aren't restricted like that... the motto is everything in moderation once you get to goal... and adjusting the rest of your meals to balance it all out whilst in the losing phase. (Personally i think this is a healthy way of teaching good eating habits for life)
Sushi is not an issue if you are going to have it once in a while, just don't go having it every week... i am 3 months post op today and i have had a prawn roll... no issues... except that it took me half a day to finish it...2 small bites and i was stuffed.