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If you tend to freak out about sudden weight gains invest in a scale that measures body fat as well. These things might not be very accurate but when you gain weight and see a sudden drop in body fat at the same time - you're retaining water.

Yes. Carbohydrates bind water. Think glycogen for example.

There is really nothing on the forbidden foods list. Well, except maybe carbonated beverages. However, this seems to be a highly controversial and I can drink lightly carbonated beverages without problems. Otherwise nothing forbidden after the first weeks are over. ETA: they gave a list of foods we should try with caution since quite a few patient are sensitive to them, e. g. bread, pasta, rice, muesli, certain meats, acidic fruits... Dairy. Seems to give me heartburn. Since I eliminated it all I could finally start to wean off the PPI. I'm also sensitive to the harder-to-digest fats and too much protein foods or the combo of protein and fat. Without adding something like e. g. rice or bread it sits in my stomach like a brick and feels very uncomfortable. I also don't eat meat (not surgery related).

The real insanity is that this is about a bowl of fruit. Like anyone of us got fat because we ate too much fruit. LOL.

You already said that emotional/stress eating seems to be the real culprit. Why not working from there? Sooner or later you will give in into the real yummy stuff instead of snacking on the lowcarb/lowfat/highprotein/keto/lowcalorie/whatever godawful substitutes that are available nowadays. What deems a healthy snack depends on the one who's recommending it. However, all the healthy snacks and food and back-to-basics in the world won't keep you from regaining in the long run if you can't stop the stress eating because "life will happen" again... and again... and again.

Because many diet plans look exactly like the idiotic crash diets so many of us were on before WLS maybe?

People with an eating disorder will always say "I'm fine!" so that's no indicator (not saying that James has one).

So? If you're still in an energy deficit you're going to continue to lose weight. You're doing good with the weight loss. I feel a rant about the "stats" being displayed under our avatars bubbling up in me.

Too much training on not enough calories won't preserve too much of anything. It's a surefire way to run yourself into the ground in the shortest time possible. How old are you? Were you used to that much exercise earlier in your life already? How much exercise did you do a year or two before the surgery? Are you already a more advanced lifter so you need a 5 day split program instead of doing strength training two or three times a week? You're 2.5 months post-op and exercising this much. Sometimes even more than one exercise unit. And no rest day as it seems. Forget any stuff you've ever heard about supplements, inflammation levels or whatever. The reason your legs are giving in is that you're simply doing too much work for your fitness level and energy intake (you're 2.5 months post-op and that alone means you're still dealing with a lot of physical stress).

Maybe eat-stop-eat is a good read about this.

Slow losers? It's not a race. No gold medals and 1 million bucks for the one who crosses the magic finish line called "normal weight" first.

Given the fact how many patients complain about never reaching a reasonable goal weight, losing too much weight to the point of being seriously underweight is not that likely. As it seems patients usually don't have to consciously add in more calories as time goes by. It just kind of... seems to happen. Again: usually - there are always exceptions to all of it.

Sooner or later a body will reach equilibrium. Let's say you're eating 1800 kcal or 2000 kcal or whatever number of calories a day. You're going to lose weight until your body've reached a weight that requires it to burn this amount of calories a day to supply itself with blood, nutrients and warmth and move through the day. In theory this will also work while eating way less calories a day. You're going to lose weight until your body've reached an energy equilibrium (this might put you into the "looking sickly" category though) - or until the bingeing/loss-of-control-eating starts.

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Do you have an idea what it caused?

Seems to work, right? It's no miracle but it really seems to help chronic inflammation issues and I seem to need less sleep.

People tend to make it complicated. If you aren't a professional athlete who needs to devote the proverbial 101% of her/his to sports I don't think it's really complicated. As long as you are in a calorie deficit you're going to lose weight, no matter if you eat food x or y at a specific time z or not. Up the intensity of your workouts so they feel like workouts again and as far as eating concerns I won't dish out any advice.

Because That's the basic effect of training after all. A body getting more efficient doing the work.

That's a pretty good and normal rationale. Ok, maybe this'll help you feeling better: "food for fuel only forever" is a common wet fantasy of bariatric patients that won't ever come true.

May I ask what your specific problems are? Depending on what's going on you might benefit from books/workbooks/boards that deal with the issue of "normal eating" and "emotional eating".

Idiots. Don't go there anymore. Judgement is the last thing you need. ... and delusional on top. ROTFLMAO. --- Seriously. I've heard good and bad things about these groups. What I took out from what I've heard is that it's all dependent on what kind of people go to the meetings, e. g. some groups require to be on their quite strict diet while other groups let define their members "abstinence" for themselves.

This is a highly individual process and I don't believe that anyone can really be "prepared" for post-op life/eating. There is no realistic simulation of post-op eating after all. Imagine you've read every book about swimming and learning how to swim and about correct swimming technique in the world - this doesn't really prepare you for the moment someone throws you into cold water. I never felt some kind of "grieving period" or something like this, at least not consciously. I also didn't feel like I've "lost my best friend". If I'd have to express it in terms of relationship maybe "ceasefire with my worst enemy" feels closest. So dependent on how you feel/think about food now you might feel angry, you might feel sad or you might feel relief or something entirely different. No one can say how this might affect you emotionally as people cope in very different ways with their feelings. In terms of eating after surgery: some start eating more and gain (take a look at the infamous "having fallen off the wagon because life happened" posts), some lose appetite and lose more weight during difficult times and I don't think you will ever know to what group you will belong before you're really going through the experience.

I think a big part of it is the actual chewing sensation. We have our teeth to chew something on after all, LOL. How long is your liquid/mushy phase? Mine was 4 weeks and it tremendously helped to know that after 4 weeks it would be over. Limited time periods are easier on the mind than "forever" or "never again". What I also noticed was a craving for salty things (the protein drinks are usually either sweet or neutral in taste).

The interesting thing is: people tend to compare themselves only to those that are more successful, be it in terms of weight loss, looks, salary, whatever. (I'm sure there is some fancy scientific explanation why that is.)

I've tried several of them but they tend to give me heartburn. I only use them on long bike rides or when running longer distances when the weather is hot.