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@@beaker27 I picked the surgery I wanted. My Dr agreed. If I couldn't have the surgery I wanted, I would have refused surgery.

Yeah you really have to live your life for yourself and worry about your needs. I never thought I was an unhappy fat person or in pain, but now that I have lost weight I can recognize how much pain I was in every single day, and how uncomfortable I was daily, just doing daily tasks. When you lose weight and feel better, you will have a whole new outlook on life. If you are in your 20s still, you are doing yourself a big favor by taking care of this now instead of later.

Just start planning for the worst and hope for the best. Do you have friends that can help you post-op if he refuses?

@@krazykristen Can you cover the rent if he is gone? I mean honestly it already sounds like this relationship has an expiration date. When you lose weight, feel better, and have more confidence, he is not going to be able to hang.

Can you be alone? Can you move out? Are there other issues? Maybe even just recover at home with your family?

Yeah my friends in Texas have been posting temps in the 100s on facebook. Not good for recovering from surgery. You might have a lot of energy post-op, I did, but I would get tired very fast. I would go from being full of energy to exhausted almost instantly. Just tell him you aren't going and leave it at that, then you don't have to worry about getting there and wanting to go home, or wasting money on a ticket or whatever. If this is his attitude now, this does not bode well for the future of your relationship. Is he otherwise supportive of your choice or does he see it as an overall inconvenience? And now I am going to be nosey, you shouldn't be taking care of some dudes kid without a ring and his last name. When you start focusing on yourself and taking care of yourself and looking better, he is probably going to show out with you. Like sit in front of you and eat all your favorites when you are 3 weeks out and on purees.

Umm it is major surgery. How old is your BF? You can probably go to this outdoor event fine, but if there is a lot of walking you might get tired, if the weather is still warm (it was 90 here today) the heat might wear you out. Do you live with him? Maybe when he sees you in the hospital, he will understand it isn't a casual thing. I could say more but I'm going to play it cool for once. Good luck.

They sell water at the movies, it is trash Dasani water, but it is water. I don't want or need special treatment. If I am feeling fancy I get coffee or unsweetened ice tea. I used to get coffee post op all the time because I used to be so cold but my temp has normalized.

@@kj4 liquids should not trigger restriction. The only reason they do early on is because you are swollen and healing. The valve at the bottom of your stomach opens constantly to let things pass through and liquids pass like sand through the hourglass. If you aren't feeling restriction, then you are healing better/faster than most people. Congrats, you can meet your Fluid requirements.

You don't really feel full on liquids or purees. At at year it depends on what it is. Dense Protein 1-2 hours? My #1 goal is to never be full. I like being able to breathe.

I'm curious about this. This was one of my motivations to lose weight, to get decent life insurance rates.

Pillow -Stayed in the car for the ride home Lip Balm Face Wash Kindle phone/charger change of panties. I had my clothes on for about 2 hours before taking them off, so I wore the same clothes home. They ask you to bring as little as possible, and they provide everything you need.

@@Babbs I love how people that hate drama are always the most dramatic. Irony.

LOL. I lost 102 lbs in the first 4 months. But just for the record, I did it being 99.99% compliant with my doctors instructions (ok, so I did have a couple of potatoes chips once or twice). I wouldn't consider it a "prisoner of war" diet. But your comment did make me laugh.I have lost almost 100 pounds during my six-month pre-op diet. I haven't even had the surgery yet. It is Wednesday. I have certainly not been on any "prisoner of war" diet, but I have been incredibly focused on my journey, re-establishing my relationship with food, and improving my health. I, too, read of these insane posts where people can't even work to improve their situation for a few hours, let alone long term. But it is what it is, so I never comment. This surgery next week is a tool that will help me continue my journey, but it isn't the whole journey. I am DAMN proud of what I have accomplished, and I just because the loss has been swift doesn't mean that it is unhealthy. You are a man, you lost 100 lbs it in 6 months, that is only 16 pounds a month, or barely over 4% a month (which is a normal amount to lose, people lose that on dietbet) , you started at almost 400 lbs, super morbidly obese. That isn't the same as a middle aged 5'2 female going from 250 to 150 in 4 or 5 months post-op after not eating anything at all but Water and crystal light for weeks. So my comments stand, they don't apply to you, and you didn't even bother applying any kind of critical thinking to what I said before jumping in to defend yourself when it didn't even apply to you. If you really even comprehended what I said in the first place you would have never commented. Atleast @ could use that Big 10 Education (Go Illini) to know it isn't about him. Congrats on your weight loss so far.

Are you taking a PPI? Are you drinking water all day? like literally all day, every moment you are awake?

LOL. I lost 102 lbs in the first 4 months. But just for the record, I did it being 99.99% compliant with my doctors instructions (ok, so I did have a couple of potatoes chips once or twice). I wouldn't consider it a "prisoner of war" diet. But your comment did make me laugh. You are a MAN though. You guys wake up from surgery down 30lbs and feeling great!

Honestly, all those option suck. Are you near U of Mich? Or Mich State? Anyone can be a certified personal train for a $400-600. It doesn't require any real training. Most of the personal trainers at chain gyms and the Y are just going to show you how to use the equipment and a few basic things. They are going to give you an eating plan that is 40-60% carbs, with whole grains and blah blah. Depending on how far out from surgery you are, you don't really have different requirements from anyone else training. You won't be able to eat in excess calories to gain muscle, but you can eat your Protein high enough to main your current muscle mass which should be your goal. Burning fat and keeping as much muscle as possible. Everyone losing fat is going to lose some muscle just because your body doesn't need that muscle to carry around all that extra fat and you can't eat excessive calories need for gains. Knowing your exact lean muscle mass, with a DEXA scan or similar can make it easier to set your protein needs. Even though you can't eat large amounts at once, you can eat protein in amounts that give you 20-30 grams at a time, and if you need to you can eat 4-5 times a day, spaced 2-3 hours apart. If you are healed and taking your Vitamins and had the sleeve, your needs aren't that different from anyone else, except limited capacity and inability to eat in excess.

@@homeesiick Your old Dr sounds like a quack, no offense. You probably don't have a properly formed sleeve, it isn't easy to make a sleeve the right size, and if that was his first one, it is unlikely he did it right. Also he is a pediatrician and not a bariatric surgeon? Did I read that correctly? I would start with seeing a new Dr and have them order tests and evaluate your sleeve and make sure it is really correctly done. I think any Dr would want to see exactly what they are working with before just passing you off to a nutritionist.

@@BillyD Until you can get a decent amount of calories in, you feel tired plus. This is major surgery. Your body is using most of your energy to heal. It gets better after 6 weeks but you can still be randomly tired.

@@Icantbelieveit A lot of people do lose a lot really fast at a low bmi. There are lots of people with lower BMIs than I have that have lost weight monthly faster. Some people are just younger, and that makes sense, if I had the sleeve when I was like 24/25 I would have lost weight super fast but... It comes at a cost though for some people. They stay on low calories and Protein forever, and they ruined their metabolism. They are stuck on low calories forever. I might not be at goal weight in 14 months, but I still have a normal functioning metabolism. I can cut calories if I feel like it because I still have calories I can cut. I still lose on 1300-1500 calories a day. If I needed to, I could cut to 1000 or 1100. Those people that stick to 800-1000 for months and months on end, end up never being able to eat much more than that without gaining. They have ruined their metabolism. Read here long enough (and other forums) and you will see it all the time. Don't worry about other people just follow your program, after all this is the internet, everyone could be lying.

@@rolosmom7 I think some of the things that newbies or just other patients period post, are an education to me. I had to be able to drink Protein to be released from the hospital. The told me flat out they would not release me unless they were sure I could intake nutrition. I was able to meet my protein goals from the time I was released from the hospital. Reading here I was very surprised to learn that people not only are released from the hospital not being able to drink Water or anything else, but that some people have instructions that tell them not to have any protein supplements at all, ever! WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE NEED TO STOP COMPARING THEIR WEIGHT LOSS TO OTHER PEOPLE. There are a ton of people that post here that lost a ton of weight really fast because they were basically on a prisoner of war diet and they starved for weeks/months. Long term that is going to do them more damage than good, so yeah its awesome they lost 100 pounds in 4 months or whatever, but they aren't telling they went through to get there, just that they got there.

Thank you for clarifying these topics. Especially gluten free. Most gluten free items on store shelves are more carbs than their gluten versions. They are not low carb or low calorie items. Also, almost everything at Panera is bad for you except the black coffee!

Well if you want to rant about WLS patients making really bad choices, you aren't going to rant about it on a makeup forum. This is the Rants and Raves section on a WLS forum so that is what it is going to be about. You knew this was going to be a post about something you didn't want to read again, but you popped your ass in here and commented yet again. You are as much of a problem as the problem you are complaining about. @@rolosmom7 You are very lucky, most people don't have that kind of family support and are married to asshats.

Nothing better than 5 Guys Burgers and fries!!! :-) 5 guys comes off as cheap. shake Shack or Smashburger have higher quality.

After the last incident we had here, I had to detach or stop posting. This is my only connection to surgery so I still need to post here, so I detached. Everyone doesn't have the same education level or investment in surgery, and most importantly people don't have the same outlook on life. While the app is great and it makes the forum accessible to lots of people that would never come here otherwise, but it is also terrible because there are lots of people that come here that would never come here otherwise. I just say my opinion and move on. A lot of people that post here remind my of my associate that had RNY. Never changed eating habits, still eats sugar with wild abandon, never cooks. And every day is a struggle for this person. They have regained, and in the next few years will probably regain all the way back to their previous weight, because they keep gaining and are unable to make any lasting changes. They keep asking me what I do and I have told them over and over and over again. This person cannot or will not make any real life changes, I can't keep investing myself in trying to help them. It is making me crazy. Every week they ask me the same things and say they need to make a change, only hours later to go out to eat instead of going to the grocery store. They are full of excuses, and even they admit their excuses are ridiculous. People have to do it for themselves.