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Not unless you try honestly. If you choose to eat certain things it is easy to regain and over eat. If you eat how your program tells you, it is basically impossible.

Just go to the Dr.

In the study I linked they cite a few other studies. One of the things they notated, which seems to be true with successful who keep their weight off long term, WLS patients or not is... Also they define a high protein diet as 1.5 g per kg per day of total weight not lean mass, 1.5 is still within the acceptable recommended limits. I am roughly 84 Kilos total weight that is 126 grams (which is about what I eat in a normal day). The .8 recommendation would put someone like me at 67 grams of protein a day. My issue with that is less the low amount of protein but the low amount of calories. Protein is 4 calories a gram, that is 268 calories a day. I have not idea where I would find another 1200 to 1400 minimum calories a day just so I could function, then if I wanted to maintain, I would need to find another 1800 is calories that were not protein. I can't eat 1800 calories a day in spinach. This is a really long PDF and pages 609-696 deal with protein recommendations. https://www.nal.usda.gov/sites/default/files/fnic_uploads//energy_full_report.pdf At the bottom of page 692 in the PDF they start talking about high protein diets. The first few paragraphs deal with it. Basically you can high protein if you have enough fat, but you can't eat just super lean meat and keep your fat low, because in the past people have became size doing this (top half of page 693). Page 694 The uppers limits of what counts are possibly high protein is 3 to 3.5 grams of protein per kilogram of total weight. I don't think any weight loss patient could eat over 200 grams of protein a day unless they were drinking it and eating protein bars. Even at that high rate... This is all a lot to say there is no recommended upper limit, there is no data on it really. People can eat massive amounts of protein over 200 grams a day without adverse effects, that doesn't mean that people should eat that much. Still eat 100 grams or so a day is fairly normal and not a cause for alarm. So people should consult with their Doctors, keep up with the regular blood work. I am going to keep consuming my 1g per pound of lean mass because it has allowed me to maintain my lean mass without regular weight training while losing a large amount of fat. I have lost 95% fat and only 5% muscle all with just walking and eating high protein. That might not be right for everyone but scaremongering people into eating low amounts of protein which may be counter productive for weight loss and maintenance is not necessary. People should consult with their medical team and find a way they can eat for life without feeling deprived.

Her Dr office already gave her an 80 gram goal, knowing her medical history, so obviously 70 isn't too much. And science says you need more protein. The US government says you need less because they fill the food pyramid with carbs because of lobbyists. The only people that can advise her on proper protein levels are her medical team and they already have. No one on the internet is qualified to tell her how to eat, even if she is asking. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1262767/ Since OP isn't carb sensitive, she could switch her protein sources to 50% plant based and that is easier on her kidneys if that is a real concern for her Drs.

My very first drink in the hospital was from a straw. If you aren't dumb and know how not to suck in air, that should be no issue with drinking from a straw. Early on it is really useful because you can suck a steady slow stream. It is a lot easier to regulate than sips and swallows, and you can drink water a lot easier and faster.

Walmart only stocks 2 flavors usually, at least around here. I know Texas Walmarts are well Texas sized so they might carry more. GNC has more flavors. Salt and Vinegar tastes the best because the flavoring isn't synthetic. You can order them on Amazon with Amazon prime.

I love the lamb broth a whole foods. It isn't low sodium though. A low carb diet is a diuretic, ketosis has a strong diuretic effect. You need sodium in your diet if you are on a low carb diet. They have bone broth at Whole Foods, it is cheap and doesn't take 14 plus hours to make. Make sure you read the label of every broth you buy, some have added sugar and a lot of them have carbs from flour thickeners. Whole foods has a wider variety than trader joe's and that is where I purchased all my broths.

Buy Quest chips and keep them in your desk at work. You can eat those when everyone else is eating regular chips. They are 130 calories, 20g of protein, and 2 net carbs.

Drinking once is not going to damage you. You have to drink heavily for years. You learned from your mistake, don't beat yourself up about it, it is the past you can't change it. Just move on.

It is normal early on not to go for days and not because you are constipated but just because the quantity of food you eat is so small. As you eat more, you have more frequent bowel movements, By the time you are 6 months or so they should be close to normal. My plan says I can have nuts at 8 weeks. I have only had nuts a couple times since surgery just because they aren't worth it, not enough protein for the calories but you can have them. Nuts aren't hard to digest at all. You chew them and they break up very small and mushy, like a nut butter. By the time Christmas comes around you will have no issues with eating them at all.

@diana52817 What is your fluid consumption like? Headache are often the first sign of dehydration.

Well to some extent it is kind of pointless to buy a lot of protein powders and stuff pre-op. What you like pre-op you might not like post-op. Buying a lot of stuff is kind of pointless. At the one year mark I threw out so much protein. I just threw some other protein I had from before surgery and right after a couple days ago cleaning out the cabinets. I love premier protein shakes and used them for years before surgery as a meal replacement. Once I had them for weeks and months and they were my main source of food, I don't know if I will ever touch another one again. I haven't had a protein shake in months, and I doubt I will ever have another one again. If your husband wants out the marriage after 14 years, well that is normal for anyone, WLS or not. If you see cracks in your marriage might as well start working on them now, instead of later. And honestly his weight loss surgery and recovery is mainly about him. Just because other people are around, no one is going to feel it or know what he is going through but him. A pre=op patient can't imagine what life is like really post-op just like people who recently had WLS have no idea what long term life is like. You have to live it. You guys can't live it for him, even if you are living it with him, Plus things are really only different the first 3 to 6 months, after that life is pretty normal.

Unless you are eating like 200 grams of protein a day, you aren't eating high protein and I mean high protein at dangerous levels. A good protein goal is .8 to 1 gram of protein per pound of lean mass.

Protein shakes, Broth with protein powder. Never felt full or anything like it until soft foods.

If you aren't carb sensitive, and can meet your protein goals, I don't think the macro balance matters. Just the overall calories. Since you are almost at your goal, it would be a good time to have your RMR/BMR tested in a lab so you know exactly what your current caloric baseline is and pin your calorie goals to that.

I used to make a lot of posts trying to help people while drinking my coffee in the morning. There also used to be a lot more people that posted here that I liked and we had real discussions but they all got banned or left because of the banning. My posting has scaled back quite a bit. I can't really continue to care more about other people than they care about themselves. You cannot help people that really don't want help and are just giving lip service to it. Like the same people keep coming back saying they are struggling and whatever but they never make changes, and never have food logs or anything else. Why should I or anyone else love someone more than they love themselves?

At this point. I feel like people should just have ice cream or whatever they want and learn the hard way. That is often the best lesson. If you dump once, and aren't mentally ill, you won't risk it again. It seems like some people are hell bent on testing the limits, so let them test.

I think grown ass adults asking random strangers on the internet to validate their life choices are getting the responses they deserve. If you want to eat soft serve ice cream, eat it. Don't ask internet strangers if it is okay. Dumb questions deserve dumb responses. You can ask someone on the internet if it is okay to eat nails and they will tell you it is fine because their cousin ate nails on a dare in 7th grade and nothing bad happened. Everyone that asks about pizza and alcohol when you can google like 50,000 responses for it, when people jump down their virtual throat, don't care. This whole site is searchable with google, even if the site search sucks. Plus there are other sites, to search and ask questions. Almost no one every asks a new question. Ideally people should be asking questions from the people they let chop them up for thousands of dollars. You know the people that actually know their medical history. Also, someone fresh from surgery or newly pre-op makes a little be nice to idiots rant monthly. This is old and played out too. @BigViffer Said it better than me. I totally agree with his entire post. I do have one friend from here that I text with almost daily, who is also a like minded individual. And I have a few other people that I am friends with on Facebook. These forums are pretty much useless for anyone that wants to make a real lasting life change and be a healthy/fit person. The only reason to come here is as a reminder of what not to do.

2nd and 3rd opinions are always great for anything.

@Sue Cookston It isn't available anywhere. Not even in his book. The information on his website is not the diet he gives his patients. Did you have surgery yet?

I'm kind of excited because I just watch an obesity documentary about the NHS discriminating against the obese, so I knew all the tiers! Get the surgery. First of all, you are never going to get this chance again on the NHS. You are lucky to be this close now. You will never be any younger than you are right now and the longer you wait the more damage you do to yourself. So unless you think you can afford to self pay at some point in the future, get surgery now when it is available to you. Secondly, every single day you are obese you are straining and damaging your body. Sure you can lose on your own, we all can, but can you keep it off. Forever, easily. Even people that regain after losing, usually don't regain it all. Even if they do, the time they were smaller was still a break to their body. Your other medical issues would be resolved in a couple months. My diabetes was well controlled with a couple pills a day and a low carb diet. Within 2 months of surgery I was completely off meds. I wouldn't roll the dice with the NHS, if you can have surgery now, have it, you won't get the chance again.

If losing weight was easy pre-op people would not have surgery. Stop beating yourself up, that is only going to make your depression and anxiety worse. If you take meds for those, those meds make you hungry. I'm surprised you are having RNY with the conditions, most shrinks say they cannot manage your meds post-op because of restriction and are against RNY in favor of other options that don't have malabsorption. If you know you want to eat instead of not eating and feeling hungry or eating the wrong things keep good options around. Deli meat, grilled meat cut into chips, protein bars, quest chips. There are all kinds of things you can eat and stay on track.

5 day pouch reset is not going to work. It is just fad diet. Try eating just dense protein for a week or two. That is what should be our focus with a sleeve.

Jeans are a waste of money when you are losing. They are going to be too big every 2 to 3 weeks if you like your jeans to fit. I had to learn that the hard way. Dresses and skirts get the most mileage, you can wear them a long time after they are too large and it isn't noticeable. Besides compression leggings for working out, I feel like leggings are a bad choice. I have some leggings that are 3 sizes too big and I can still wear them. They were workout leggings that were not compression leggings. When you wear stretchy clothes, you don't see your loses and it seems like you aren't getting anywhere with your weight loss. Tailored/fitted clothes are the best because they will last longer and cover more flaws. Clothes with structure, look okay even when they are too large for longer. And you notice your loses better.

How much your sleeve can hold depends entirely on what you are eating and the moisture content. It changes over time and it is different for everyone. The size of your sleeve isn't important,what you choose to eat is. Trying to base your portion sizes on the size is your sleeve is not a good idea. Portions should be measured/weighed and align to goals. Sleeve size and restriction changes over time, read posts from long term people that have regained. You can eat a family size bag of chips with a sleeve or 3 to 6 ounces of protein.