GoochMonster

She doesn't stop all the women from posting in the "Men only" room, why should rants be different? Isn't that what this particular forum is for?

She doesn't stop all the women from posting in the "Men only" room, why should rants be different? Isn't that what this particular forum is for?

Also, yeah this IS the rants forum...

AMEN!

She doesn't stop all the women from posting in the "Men only" room, why should rants be different? Isn't that what this particular forum is for?

AMEN!

Have you read any of the other 487 posts about stalls?

Have you read any of the other 487 posts about stalls?

Would a reputable dr even do that procedure? Your stomach is already so small it takes effort to get enough nutrition to keep you healthy.

I would suggest the Power90 series. NOT the P90X, the Power90. Same guy, different workouts. It's basically the equivalent of a gym workout with a trainer. Very good starting point.

Please stop and do the math.
People get completely freaked out by what I feel are unreasonable expectations. They fly into a panic. They assume that the first time they don't lose on the scale that their loss is done. They think that two weeks at one weight is a massive stall. They look at other people's large losses and forget that we don't all lose at the same rate.
First - if you did a pre-op diet you are not going to have the same loss your first month as someone who didn't do one. Your pre-op loss should get counted into your loss calculation if you did a pre-op diet.
Second - a stall is three weeks or more at the same weight with no fluctuation. Are you panicked after that? Well, my friend coops once spent twenty one MONTHS at the same weight. She finally broke through and never regained during that time, and even lost two sizes while not budging on the scale. Is it the miracle cure you may have been hoping for on the scale? No. But stalls are not the end of the world. They are certainly more normal that flying to goal in six weeks, I promise you.
Third - losing anything more than a pound a week is good. Are you eating less than ever before? Yes. Does that guarantee you'll lose faster than ever before? No. I had two nine week stalls - no movement except upwards for my monthly cycle. I had months where I lost but only in the tenths of a pound. It's not normal to expect a big loss every time you step on the scale. It's setting yourself up for disappointment.
Fourth - your pattern is your pattern. You can compare yourself to other people sleeved the same day or with the same stats but it doesn't matter. So much of this is individual. So if you're constantly seeking out other people and comparing your losses to theirs, you are eventually going to discourage and frustrate yourself.
Fifth - are you closing in on goal? We all lose even more slowly the less weight we have to lose. So if you only have sixty pounds to lose but shed thirty in your first three months, please don't be hysterical because you're "only" losing a pound a week now that you're past the halfway point. It's normal.
Stop. Breathe. Do the math. Adjust your expectations. This is not a race. You do not get a special award for reaching goal more quickly. Your surgery was not pointless or worthless if you manage to get to goal in two years instead of six months. The real goal is not losing the weight. It's keeping the weight off. That's real success - that's what we're here to do. It does not matter if you hit goal in nine months or two years - the real challenge and the real journey begins with maintenance. How quickly or slowly you lost does nothing to change the challenges you'll encounter there.
I am not ranting at anyone in particular. I just feel that this is an issue that comes up constantly and it's actually pretty silly for people to fly into such a panic without really thinking. I've seen folks upset when they're logging losses of upwards of four pounds a week. Point to the diet that helped you accomplish that and was easy to maintain prior to surgery.
~Cheri

Sometimes we start to explode like a volcano and post mean things in the rants and raves forum that get shut down. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.
It's a matter of balance. I want to be here to help, but I also want to benefit from being here. I can't benefit or focus on the good if I allow the rest of it to frustrate me. So I dodge a lot of posts, roll my eyes safely from the other side of my computer screen on others and vent to my husband about how people really should research and read before undergoing major surgery.
So I keep from becoming even more jaded (too late, in my case) by not even visiting particular boards when they're venturing into annoying or aggravating territory.
Nothing is more infuriating (okay, too strong a word but it conveys my point) than someone six weeks out lecturing another sleever on how they must be doing something wrong since they've lost "X" pounds in six weeks and the other person is experiencing a perfectly normal weight loss hiccup.
I always want to post about how they don't really know anything and aren't really helping. But that's not nice and I'm making a concerted effort to be nicer.
I hope people can tell.
I'm certainly not criticizing your post. Maybe you can take something from here to help yourself as a vet later on.
There's a reason we needed a vet forum. There's a reason you'll only find a handful of people regularly posting that are more than a year out, and even fewer more than two years out.
It's incredibly difficult to be here and be supportive for the long run when 1) many people that post don't actually want answers or honesty; they want validation and 2) a number of people only post to complain or vent or ask advice, never to support or help other people.
The reality is that for some people the loss is EASY. But maintenance is hard for everyone, I think. There's a lot more to this process than shedding pounds. I often wonder how well some of those folks that flew to goal and then never came back are really doing in maintenance. I'm skeptical that many of them have continued to maintain. It's easy to be optimistic when weight comes off effortlessly. But these are the same people that panic and take over the boards with countless STALL!! threads the second they hit a hiccup. They're not mentally prepared for this to actually take WORK. And boy, it does take work. It's not something that ends, it's not something that goes away and it's not a freaking magic solution to just slice out your stomach.
Just my opinion. I've got lots of those and I'm not so great at keeping them to myself.
~Cheri

Well, in all honesty, I hope that NO ONE ever told you "this will solve all your problems" because that just isn't the truth. Everyone says (and repeats) this is just a tool. And yep, here I am getting close to 3 years later and guess what? I still have to weigh and measure my food, I still have to be ON my game, or some weight can slip back on.
So on one hand sure it can be frustrating sometimes to have to remain diligent. I did NOT get skinny from this surgery and did not pick to be in maintenance when my body decided to quit losing. But I have made peace with being where I am. (I am battling a bit of a regain +15lbs which I AM refusing to accept and will continue to battle until it's gone) but I have made peace with the fact that I will not have a "normal" BMI. I'm okay with that.
On the other hand, this is ONE piece of the big puzzle. Why did I eat, when did I eat, and what did I eat pre-surgery? And because of having surgery and dealing with some of the issues around my own eating puzzle, I'm forever grateful for having this surgery. Would I have ever been able to lose -85lbs and KEEP IT OFF for 2 years? Nope. Not this girl. I would have already gained it all back by now.
So the answer to the question is the rose colored glasses are MY CHOICE and how I want my journey to be. I've learned that there is NO finish line, there is no DONE and now I just get to eat whatever I want and not gain weight. So I've accepted that this is MY battle MY cross to bear and I refuse to accept defeat. Attitude counts...it's really all up to you and it always has been. The surgery is the tool to help you, not do it for you.

not all ice cube trays are created equally

WLS surgery talk... anyone? anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

All of this is sounding like Charlie Brown's teacher....wha wha wha wha wha wha

My first post in the Man room... well I just joined today. Just a suggestion to guys that aren't used to working out as heavily as the P90X requires, and believe me, it's a hardcore work out. The pre-P90X is called the Power 90. Also by Tony Horton and it's an awesome work out that you can do before trying the P90X. I've found it to be as good/almost the same as when I hired a personal trainer at the gym. just my 2 cents

Ditto. Delete please

Ditto. Delete please

WLS surgery talk... anyone? anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Ditto. Delete please

Lol gmanbat!
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I really had a great surgeon for my sleeve. He really knew his stuff.
But he was a Scientologist!!
(kidding)

ABSOLUTELY NOT