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@@Escape_Pod I got the full article if you are interested.

Hmm. I might eat potato salad once in 6 months or less. I would think fries and the like, even in smaller quantities would be no go's. I also prefer doing "pizza" with just some sauce on a plate and tiny bit of cheese. I don't do it that much though. Same for a tomato, nuke it with some cheese on it.

All I know is at a number of people with non positive glowing outcomes all seem to have one thing in common at the practice I was at: they were told it was all in their heads and fobbed off, dropped, etc. when not all of them had something that needed surgical correction to fix (among other things). Delayed or missed diagnosis is the #1 cause of lawsuits. You would do good to check all sites for reviews. Forget the USA state medical boards, as they do nothing. Check out the courts, etc. Find local newspapers and see what they say and if they are paid advertisers of the paper or the TV stations. You really want to talk to other patients who didn't sail though. They always tout those, but lots of people can have success. Its when the surgeon and people are in hot Water that you want to find out how they react. They'll love you if it works out, and you'll love them.

My big one: ask what his major complications have been and talk to the people involved. A doctor who is willing to say what his problems are how they dealt with them, how they deal with problems, is going to tell you a lot more about the character of the doctor and his office. Many can have good outcomes but if they don't know and look at their own progress to become better, they're in it for the money and will toss you when something bad happens.

Anyone heard of it or tried it?

@@Escape_Pod Never mind I have the citation and I'm pretty sure I can get to the full article. It would be tomorrow though.

@@Escape_Pod Do you have the original citation? I could probably get it, but not sure where it is from. Is it this? Eur Eat Disord Rev. 2014 Jul;22(4):223-9. doi: 10.1002/erv.2292. Epub 2014 Apr 25

Did you get any after support from the doc?

Try a google search for plus size bathing suit and you'll find everything. That way you can choose the style of what you want to wear. Speedo and many others put out larger suits.

In Virginia also. A little over 1/2 the backyard/sideyard are veggies & herbs. Fertilized by the bunnies, Starbucks, and hens and some Gardentone. Shroom and Moonure are available. I do pick your own farms. I'd kill to be where you are at gpmed.

There are actually many who have the issue. I'm not sure if there is a married forum that might be able to unite you with others. You can also do a search on the forum and see if someone else has had this problem. I'm sorry.

I eat any sort of veggie I can. It might be soft but I do it.

I use the mini plates, bowls, spoons, forks, etc. that are sold as appetizer items in the Bed Bath & Beyond & like stores.

So they had you taking all that calcium knowing your levels were that high? Did they test urine calcium levels? 24 hour levels? How about iCalcium levels? What were your blood calcium levels when you went to 4? https://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pth/tab/test/ These are the people who write (or get it from the people who create the tests) lab guidelines. Your calcium was in normal range, so I'm missing pieces here as to why you were tested. That indicates a possible parathyroid problem, more so than calcium? Did they also check your phosphorus levels?

Did you check to see that everything else was the same? What about your Vitamin D levels?

The reason why aftercare is such an issue is because they've got their money. The money is in the surgery. After that, maintenance is not a big thing. Many of us, especially sleeves, need help and its not in the insurance to do anything for us.

@@OKCPirate If they are using saliva testing, then it is hookus science. Aka woo.

Hopefully it is. There is some talk regarding the sponsors of such research: Coke/Pepsi being one of them for the nutrition related info.

What is your food intake like? What is the composition of that? Your exercise regimen? That should determine what you need. The sleeve has no malapsorptive component (unless you get unlucky like me) and for RNY, I've seen 1 study that said at 2 years the intestines compensate for most of what was lost.

Thanks OKC!

I haven't. Let us know. Is it at Whole Foods?

Some of it has no basis in science. Evidence based medicine, basically. The sleeve, it was pretty much that I saw the doctors taking 500 mg. of requirements off of what the RNY had. They still wanted a Multivitamin a day, but no one has ever addressed the study that said at 2 years out, they get more than enough calories in to sustain themselves. The surgery is where the money is at. They figured with 20% or more of people getting the surgery gaining a good amount of weight back, people will be ok. There are not tons and tons of people with problems, so it is more profitable to them to just ignore or dump the problems and the rest take care of themselves.

Great job guys!

I had a year long monitored diet before all the stuff. Most don't have that. I got through it.

Best of luck!