MarkRK9

Here's the deal. I'm completely capable of getting to round one, however long it takes. Round 2 is usually a challenge. I did some digging around on the internet and discovered they make both Viagra and Cialis in a liquid (gel) form. Question for the guys:
#1 - Is it OK to take liquid Viaga or Cialis after surgery without it being harmful? I understand this is a question for my Dr. but I'm not going to see him for a couple months and thought I'd poll the group to see if it's already been asked.
#2 - Has anyone taken the liquid gel Viagra or Cialis and what were the results...or I should say, did it work? any adverse side affects?
Thanks in advance for your input!

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

I was sleeved on Election Day. I'm down 87# and have about 30 more to go to hit my goal. Its amazing how things have changed in a mere 4 months! I can now fly on a plane without asking for the dreaded "extender". No more painful soars on the inside of my thighs. Instead of worrying about things being too tight, I worry they look too loose. I find that people smile at me more often. I actually enjoy socializing with people now. I asked out on a date (I declined - happily married for 18 years). The list goes on and on.... Most importantly, I actually feel healthy. I take in about 700 calories a day give or take. I usually meet the 60g of Protein with no problem, and I take my Vitamins religiously. My Water intake has been my biggest struggle. My pee always looks like apple juice so I know I'm behind in that area. Something to work on. I find that eating is now something that I NEED to do rather than something I WANT to do. It's so much easier to make good food choices now that I'm not feeling dependent on food to fulfill some sort of emotional void. This whole experience has been a true blessing!

I was sleeved on Election Day. I'm down 87# and have about 30 more to go to hit my goal. Its amazing how things have changed in a mere 4 months! I can now fly on a plane without asking for the dreaded "extender". No more painful soars on the inside of my thighs. Instead of worrying about things being too tight, I worry they look too loose. I find that people smile at me more often. I actually enjoy socializing with people now. I asked out on a date (I declined - happily married for 18 years). The list goes on and on.... Most importantly, I actually feel healthy. I take in about 700 calories a day give or take. I usually meet the 60g of Protein with no problem, and I take my Vitamins religiously. My Water intake has been my biggest struggle. My pee always looks like apple juice so I know I'm behind in that area. Something to work on. I find that eating is now something that I NEED to do rather than something I WANT to do. It's so much easier to make good food choices now that I'm not feeling dependent on food to fulfill some sort of emotional void. This whole experience has been a true blessing!

I was sleeved on Election Day. I'm down 87# and have about 30 more to go to hit my goal. Its amazing how things have changed in a mere 4 months! I can now fly on a plane without asking for the dreaded "extender". No more painful soars on the inside of my thighs. Instead of worrying about things being too tight, I worry they look too loose. I find that people smile at me more often. I actually enjoy socializing with people now. I asked out on a date (I declined - happily married for 18 years). The list goes on and on.... Most importantly, I actually feel healthy. I take in about 700 calories a day give or take. I usually meet the 60g of Protein with no problem, and I take my Vitamins religiously. My Water intake has been my biggest struggle. My pee always looks like apple juice so I know I'm behind in that area. Something to work on. I find that eating is now something that I NEED to do rather than something I WANT to do. It's so much easier to make good food choices now that I'm not feeling dependent on food to fulfill some sort of emotional void. This whole experience has been a true blessing!

Funny, I also get the hiccups when it's time to stop. I also start to sneeze if I go beyond that. Amazing how things work now.

Funny, I also get the hiccups when it's time to stop. I also start to sneeze if I go beyond that. Amazing how things work now.

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

Thanks for the input! I took the safe route and asked my doctor as well. He said there were no issues but insisted that I take the liquid form as he does not allow ANY solid pills post op. All pills must be crushed according to him. No biggie. I had some real fun taking a couple Cialls per op....looking to try it out post op! Should be interesting.....

It's a real shame that many of the posts on this board are cluttered with all the drama. There are a bunch of really informative and helpful remarks in this topic alone however it took me darn near an hour to pluck them out of all the other crap.

Sorry i have had alcoholic patients and drug addicts stay away from the substances they abused totally. Me, personally, will not touch ice cream. I used to eat gallons of it in a sitting. Thats my vice. But, i just had a glass of moscato. Yes it has calories, but it was not something i abused before. So its safe that i will stop at one glass, not the whole bottle. This sleeve experience is unique to the person.

Wow...you folks manage to turn ANY question or conversation into an immature cliquey high school drama, don't you?
Why on earth was there any need to attack someone for volunteering their own experience? It does NOT matter if Dianne38 chooses to eat at McD's once in a while, or enjoy a doughnut. It also doesn't mean she's unhealthy or that she doesn't care about her body. Could she make better choices? Sure. So could almost every American out there, obese or not.
These things are an ingrained part of our culture and if she can use moderation and enjoy them it's her choice. I'd criticize her if she were hopping on here to complain that she's stalled and then shared that she's eating doughnuts and hamburgers. But really? The VERY first response to her was a sarcastic, overly critical snotty one.
No WONDER people don't want to post here. No WONDER people say VST has gotten too negative. And you accuse the lady that was just out-of-the-blue sniped at for sharing her experience of reacting harshly, instead of acknowledging that people here are acting like a bunch of children.
Pathetic. And things I've read about certain people here never having a single positive thing to say seem to ring true - outside of their own little posse of like-minded sharp-tongued people, that is.
~Cheri

Once you're healed and once you can tolerate them, yeah, it's fine.
Just please, please do not every come here two weeks post op and ask if you can have one or our heads will explode!
There's a line to walk here. Eat well, eat quality foods BUT also work on the head game of learning how to eat in moderation. That means not fencing off entire foods or food groups because they're "bad" because it's easy to go from there to temptation to binges and grazing. The idea is to learn how to eat like a normal person. Normal people eat cheeseburgers once in a while.
So find healthier ways to incorporate those foods on occasion.
But remember that the idea here is to change - not just our pants size but our lifestyles. That means avoiding the crappy McD's burger and going for some quality sirloin you either make yourself or buy somewhere nicer.
Don't be surprised if you can only eat a few bites, sans but or no.
~Cheri

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

My average calories per day right now is at about 750. I get on the elliptical for about 20, 5 days a week. Started doing the elliptical about 2 weeks ago.

Sleeved on Election Day (Nov. 6th). 322 before per-op diet, 313 on day of surgery, and 258 as of yesterday. 64 lbs total and damn proud! This is the best I've felt in many, many years. Granted, it's been a tough journey. I describe the experience to my friends one sentence; The most strict diet I've ever been on combined with a major surgery that kicked my a**! But as most would agree, I'd do it all in a minute. Things I can do now that I couldn't a couple months ago:
Fit in a seat on an air plane without having to use a seat belt extension.
Fit in a booth at a restaurant.
Sex....ohhhhh boy. I'll save it for the man room.
Sit up from a laying position without looking like a turtle on its shell.
Tie my shoes while they're still on my feet.
Look at myself in the mirror (still not all that pretty to look at, but getting better!)
Pass a Wendy's without ordering 2 spicy chicken combos.
Find clothes that fit me at places like Kohles and Target.
Walk for quite a distance without getting those sores on my inner thighs (they're gone completely!).
sleep without my C-pap machine.
Give someone a good hug.
Smile when I think of my future!
Life is good!

My average calories per day right now is at about 750. I get on the elliptical for about 20, 5 days a week. Started doing the elliptical about 2 weeks ago.

I refuse to be a slave to the scale. Besides my doctors visits, I've weighed myself twice at home since surgery two months ago. I know this probably isnt the norm but my thought is this - it is way too easy for me not to weigh myself and I don't want to rely on a scale to tell me how I'm doing.
We all know when we've had a bad day or screwed up on our diets. In the past, after having a bad day or bad week I'd weigh myself to find that I ONLY gained a pound or two. So I'd think, heck it's only a couple pounds and if I was able to eat all that junk food and only gain a couple pounds why not do it again next week. Thus the vicious cycle continued.
I've become a big fan of my fitness pal. At the end of each day I'm easily able to tell how I did without jumping on the scale. I judge my progress not on the numbers on the scale but on the little things that I'm able to do now that I'm shedding the weight...tying my shoes, standing up from sitting without rocking back and forth, hugging my wife without leaning forward.
There's no question about it. If you've had the surgery and stick with the plan, you will lose the weight. Be patient. It took us a long time to get our bodies to look the way they do. I figure it will take quite a while to get them back to normal.
Sorry for the rant....my two cents.

I refuse to be a slave to the scale. Besides my doctors visits, I've weighed myself twice at home since surgery two months ago. I know this probably isnt the norm but my thought is this - it is way too easy for me not to weigh myself and I don't want to rely on a scale to tell me how I'm doing.
We all know when we've had a bad day or screwed up on our diets. In the past, after having a bad day or bad week I'd weigh myself to find that I ONLY gained a pound or two. So I'd think, heck it's only a couple pounds and if I was able to eat all that junk food and only gain a couple pounds why not do it again next week. Thus the vicious cycle continued.
I've become a big fan of my fitness pal. At the end of each day I'm easily able to tell how I did without jumping on the scale. I judge my progress not on the numbers on the scale but on the little things that I'm able to do now that I'm shedding the weight...tying my shoes, standing up from sitting without rocking back and forth, hugging my wife without leaning forward.
There's no question about it. If you've had the surgery and stick with the plan, you will lose the weight. Be patient. It took us a long time to get our bodies to look the way they do. I figure it will take quite a while to get them back to normal.
Sorry for the rant....my two cents.

I refuse to be a slave to the scale. Besides my doctors visits, I've weighed myself twice at home since surgery two months ago. I know this probably isnt the norm but my thought is this - it is way too easy for me not to weigh myself and I don't want to rely on a scale to tell me how I'm doing.
We all know when we've had a bad day or screwed up on our diets. In the past, after having a bad day or bad week I'd weigh myself to find that I ONLY gained a pound or two. So I'd think, heck it's only a couple pounds and if I was able to eat all that junk food and only gain a couple pounds why not do it again next week. Thus the vicious cycle continued.
I've become a big fan of my fitness pal. At the end of each day I'm easily able to tell how I did without jumping on the scale. I judge my progress not on the numbers on the scale but on the little things that I'm able to do now that I'm shedding the weight...tying my shoes, standing up from sitting without rocking back and forth, hugging my wife without leaning forward.
There's no question about it. If you've had the surgery and stick with the plan, you will lose the weight. Be patient. It took us a long time to get our bodies to look the way they do. I figure it will take quite a while to get them back to normal.
Sorry for the rant....my two cents.