hamanyq8

Wow. Comments and people like this make me not want to visit this site. Don't we have moderators?

I am so frustrated with eating such small amounts of food. I love eating out with my family. But I find myself getting frustrated because I can hardly eat anything. I sit there looking at the food and wanting to eat more, even though I'm completely full. It is so frustrating for me. Please don't get me wrong, I love my sleeve and my new body and am totally happy I had the surgery. I hate cooking for myself because I eat so little, I get overly concerned with how much my hubby is eating. So frustrating, I know he has to make his own decisions about portion size. ARGGGGGGH!
I know some of this is head hunger, but struggle with getting through it! ARGGGGGGGH!

I know that before I had surgery I researched alllll of the good and bad. In addition, my surgeon was sure to explain to me of all the things that could go wrong. Although 'elective', this is MAJOR surgery, and definitley life changing.
I am sure most on here did the same as me. I have been reading your posts, and will take you for face value, and believe that you are just having a hard time with the after surgery life. We all are in one way or another. And I feel sorry for you. I am no professional, but I am a verrry positive person. I believe the energy I put out, is what comes back to me. I hope you understand that the participants of this forum are kind, and many ARE having a hard time, but keeping positive and keeping their eye on the goal of being healthy. It is simply mean to keep posting your negativity, without being constructive in some way...
I am only 3 weeks out, but if you need a friend to talk to, a support person, or someone to simply vent to, please message me, I would love to listen to your concerns, rather then seeing the negativity on here and getting everyone riled up...
Hugs, sabrina

Your stomach isn't completely done healing until the 6th or seventh month so day 40 is very early in the process. After month six it is pretty much eat whatever or as you put it normal and feel full after smaller portions but there are rules you will need to follow such as eat Protein always first. There will always be foods that unfortunately you will be able to gorge on sliders refined sugars..... As for now just a month out breads, pastas, rice, and pretty much anything high starch or fat will not sit well with your new stomach. You should pretty much stick to Soups and Proteins but don't except to eat more then one egg, or an ounce of dense protein like chicken or beef in a meal or a 1/2 cup of Soup. There is a learning curve to your new stomach it takes time and be patient.

Good Afternoon:

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From the list of food i just inderstood bbq sauce , but thanks for the help i really prefere a Protein Shake with chicken wings.

wait a minute...
where can I get some of those canned vanilla chipmunks ?
man, that sounds scrumptious !

you don't respect people , this is a female which did the operation and its her first week , she is giving me support unlike you being so childish and bullying me and disrespecting her.

I know. I'm pissed because I can't eat this portabello mushroom stuffed with crabmeat. Can only eat about 1/4th. BUT...... I'm pleased with my results. Guess it's a good thing...in a way

kss om el 3mlia, i regret it too, but np it's getting better here. good luck. i miss old food too Q_Q!

I tried to delete the last post I made. I failed. How do ya do it?
I think the OP was referring to me when he spoke of a "failed comedian".
Hey, I'll have you know that my wife laughs at all my jokes when she wants some new shoes.

Fjj & Hamany
El emoor bterja3 6abe3eya inshala intaw hang in there and like fjj said u did it for a reason. It was hard in the beginning for me too but ultimately i came through it and its now been almost 4 months o ga3ed akil 6be3y bs ena small portions. Itha tbon aye shay email me wenshalah i can help.

I don't understand why everyone's being so defensive. He was just asking a question and he's clearly frustrated because it's extremely difficult to change habbits. Everyone should calm down.
Hamany ana msawya el 3amaliya gabel sboo3 oo ham waaaayed lay3a chabdi malait, kelyom abchii i misss old food wayed! Bs u have to remember u did this for a reason and try to think of the longterm positive effect. With time, i'm sure we'll get used to it and even love the new us. Goodluck!

First of all i'd like to kindly ask everyone to calm down and lets discuss this issue seriously as many people can learn from it.
If Hamanyq8 is a registered member then he has the right to post whatever he feels he needs to talk about whether we agree with him or not. I'm not defending him, i am like all of you who are genuinely trying to help him and others who might be facing the same issue.
I think whats happening to Hamanyq8 has a lot to do with his psych. Being afraid to swallow is not uncommon among sleevers. Most of us know for a fact that VSG is a positive life changing procedure. However, some patients are faced or become aware with the down sides of the operation before actually experiencing the positive.
Hamany has a new stomach and he has to understand this and accept it mentally first in order for his body to accept it too. The way i see it is that his brain is still in pre-op state while his stomach is post-op and for him to actually start his VSG journey correctly he needs to sync both organs to post op. Once this is achieved it will all be smooth sailing from there.
I know a couple of friends who have undergone VSG and faced psychological difficulties have seeked professional help/ therapy and are now enjoying their new lives.
My advice however is to first stick to a diet plan approved by your NUT and if the problem persists try therapy.

Horrible thread, yet evidence that the sleeve is just a tool. Please be kind to each other. Remember it takes time to heal you did just have major surgery. Also remember you didn't get to be big all of a sudden it was years and years of bad habits that you should learn to change. Fake or not fake this person is simply asking for help and understanding from us all who have at some point gone through a similar stage. Remember there is a healthier way to eat, that I would highly recommend you check into, but only if that is your choice. I will promise to you this one thing if it is meat you crave you will be able to eat it. Just possibly not this close out of surgery. I don't want to rub it in your face, but I went on a lovely dinner date this past weekend and was able to have a great piece of steak. Yes, in a smaller portion than normal. You will be able to eat anything you want sooner or later right. Forcing it though will only keep your bad eating habits at hand and that could sabatoge your life style change later on. The weight loss will stop or come to a stop and sooner than you think. Try to take advantage of the fantastic choice you have made to have your surgery. It is one you won't regret if you make the most of it. I wish you the best of luck.
P.S.
If you want to do it your way and want meat try a different kind. Maybe a softer summer sausage, some pepperoni, maybe some turkey Snacks, or even cornbeef, tis the season of the irish, is a bit easier than ground beef. This stage is only temporary believe me or not you will find out yourself in time.
P.P.S
Remember everyone is entilted to their opinion and that is simply what it is. Your opinion. We are free to all share how we feel on here, but remember this is the place many of us come for support. The good and the bad can be shared, but let's remember to be kind in our responses to each other. We all want the same thing here respectively.

Hamany, tera ana mithlik imsawe el 3amaliya. Sarly al7een 3 months bs ghal6an takil cheeseburger min awalha. O mithlik ana a7ib el fast food bs 3a6ah wagt.
Stick to a healthy diet plan, give yourself at least a few months to lose the weight and then consider what you want to eat.
Deer balik la i9eer feeh leakage tera el imoor et9eer very complicated wenta eb ghina 3an hal shay.
Imwafag inshalah wetha tabe ayeshay dezly private message or email me.
Ana nizalt 32kg eb 3 months.

You will be able to eat a little more when you get a little further out and the swelling goes down inside your sleeve. You have to try different types of Protein, if for instance chicken doesn't work for you right now, then try something different like a soft scrambled egg or cottage cheese. String cheese is tasty and handy to keep with you.
It would be a good idea though to try to form good eating habits now, and make healthier food choices.
The person above made a good point about orange juice being acidic, and it's very true. Most of us have an acid problem, at least early out, so it may be best to switch from orange juice to Protein Shakes? It takes a while to adjust, and it can be difficult if you have some intolerance's to some foods, but give it a little more time. Focus on fluids and softer food. The dryer the meat, the more difficult to tolerate, so try to use dips of some type. I like to mix plain greek yogurt with hidden valley ranch dip mix or any others. But you can use other dips or dressings.< /p>

We are all entitled to our opinions. But I have never doubted the change this sleeve has made in my life. I used to not eat normal. Now with my sleeve I eat normal. I eat to survive not to enjoy. My sleeve has turned me into a health conscious eater. I do not drink any juices, watch the carbs in those, also be careful with orange juice, quite acidic.
My typical day of food goes. (at 5 months out)
8 oz - skim milk (100 cal, 10 protein) 1 scoop chocolate injury (100 cal, 20 protein)
1/2 cup fat free plain greek yogourt (60 cal, 10 protein) with a few blueberries and smushed blacked berries for flavour (40 cal)
3-4 oz of Water with 1 scoop injury strawberry (100 cal, 20 protein)
raw vegetables with 2 tbs hummus (appx 100 cal, 4-6 protein)
3-4 oz of Water with 1 scoop injury strawberry (100 cal, 20 protein)
that is 700 calories and around 85 grams of Protein.
Although I do not typically eat much meat, as it does aggravate my stomach but still have no problem staying within calories and getting my Protein. If you use your sleeve right there is nothing wrong with it in my opinion.

I was eating hot sauces from very early out. I think I'm 8 weeks now. I have always had an Iron stomach. Try a little and see how it goes. Some people become intolerant to some foods like eggs and milk and spicy food. It hasn't happened to me.

I've had yucky breath in the mornings since my first day post-sleeve - and no, it's definitely not ketosis in my case. Ketosis usually smells fruity, anyway, not gross. I don't know what it is, but I just learned to live with it. I just rinse out my mouth, have some Water to drink, and everything is fine.

Oh, well -- thrush CAN also come about via immunosuppression such as HIV, but it also comes after this surgery a lot for whatever reason (I really think it's antiobiotics, which they often give during and after surgery, along with a dry mouth for a couple days). And the surgery reason is much more likely. You know what doctors say, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras. Meaning, the most likely cause is the surgery, not HIV. (But if you have a reason to suspect any kind of sexually transmitted disease, getting checked for it is dead easy and will put your mind at ease.)

WOW!!!!!!!! Not sure how we went from bad breath to HIV but I hope that you are not sitting after reading this and thinking "Oh my God I have HIV." Thrush can be caused from many things. if indeed that is truely what you have. Going to the doctor will be your best bet. I am 9 weeks post op and wake up with a terrible taste in my mouth in the morning and also bad breath. I attribute it to what I eat in my diet and possibly medications and Vitamins that I may take on a daily basis. I know that it is not HIV. I do know that if you are taking certain antibiotics that this can also cause thrush. Do not sit and worry that you may be HIV positive. There are many other causes for thrust is that is indeed what you have. I would make an appt with your doctor and go in and see if he can tell you what it may be.......probably nothing that is caused by disease.

I agree with everyone else... Your sleeve isn't ready.for so much starch. Protein first, veggies/fruit next, and if there's any room left a little bit of something else.
So, this may be a silly question but, pastas and potatoes and chips other similarly unhealthy foods are what got most of us into the positions we're in, so why after we've all been given an amazing opportunity and a 2nd chance to have a different type of life, would you go back to the things that got you here in the first place? I realize it's hard, we all realize it's hard, and we're all going through the same thing, but we all just underwent MAJOR surgery because we were tired of being unhealthy and overweight and everything else that goes along being that way. We have all made conscious decisions to change our lives and our lifestyles to facilitate change. Your sleeve is a tool, not a cure, and if you aren't using your tool wisely you may as well have not even gotten it.
We're all here for you, rooting for you and cheering you on, giving answers to questions you may think are silly, so please, use us! We want you to be successful! If nothing else we all have at least one thing in common, our sleeves, and that makes us like a brotherhood.
Hang in there friend, we're here for you!

I felt this same way in my 4th week a few times as I was trying new solid foods. I backed off my 5th week and have been slowly trying new foods, but relying still on mostly Protein Shakes and my sleeve has been much happier. Listen to your body. Not all of us are ready for solid foods just because our meal plan tells us it is time to introduce them.