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I did not have a preop diet. I only fasted from midnight the night before surgery. It all depends on who the surgeon is.

Great! Thank u. I will look again

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Its typical. Less so in US but not 100% on line anywhere. Dont like craptions [auto captioning] either. Shrug.

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Im deaf. i need captions. Did not see how to start it

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Gee...your perspective from the lab is nothing like what the nutritionist says. She is supported by a group of surgeons and endos and they hang on twitter under #obsmuk ...i think. They have been pointing to recent research that clearly supports IF. i dont know what you do in the lab but does it deal with nutrition?

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There is some research (positive) on twitter re IF i would spell it out. Posted by bariatric surgeons. Im chicken to try it.

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http://www.smartbrief.com/branded/2C5FF2EC-2736-4FC0-9968-00A78AB57148/28DF0AA6-1B0E-4B3F-87F0-9C31751657AA

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There is some research (positive) on twitter re IF i would spell it out. Posted by bariatric surgeons. Im chicken to try it.

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Nonexistent on android phones.

If stomach stretching is a myth, perhaps those of us who have regained some can be reimagined as mythical beasts. The make up woukd take all day. ...

Ana92212...thats the crux of the matter there. It is my belief that we call back into old habits no matter how long out we are from the surgery . Between reading about the "myth" of stretching, the "moral failure " of the individual to retain new eating behaviors so as to maintain the loss, the statistics docs post about followup, the shame of being overweight that we carried all our lives, the microbiota [SIBO] and supplements ....we really don't have any definitive data that helps us resolve the main issue of why we get to a point where only surgery saves us. I've been the whole route. I don't have answers. All I know is that it is NOT a moral failing that makes us fat and there is nothing virtuous about going for the surgery. But knowing this and believing it are two different animals. We get to try and that should be enough. Ultimately life happens. Good luck to all those who are still in the planning stages, the honeymoon years, the horrible ouch i gained, I will restart it , etc. That's all we can hope for: good luck.

You can click on his name and see his activity. Like most people that post here and cause a ton of drama, he never came back.

Ana92212...thats the crux of the matter there. It is my belief that we call back into old habits no matter how long out we are from the surgery . Between reading about the "myth" of stretching, the "moral failure " of the individual to retain new eating behaviors so as to maintain the loss, the statistics docs post about followup, the shame of being overweight that we carried all our lives, the microbiota [SIBO] and supplements ....we really don't have any definitive data that helps us resolve the main issue of why we get to a point where only surgery saves us. I've been the whole route. I don't have answers. All I know is that it is NOT a moral failing that makes us fat and there is nothing virtuous about going for the surgery. But knowing this and believing it are two different animals. We get to try and that should be enough. Ultimately life happens. Good luck to all those who are still in the planning stages, the honeymoon years, the horrible ouch i gained, I will restart it , etc. That's all we can hope for: good luck.

Oh...well, I'm deaf and the video is captioned, so I read it instead of watched it. Good point.

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Holy cow. That makes more sense than holistic doc mumbo jumbo SIBO theories. Huh! But I do this mostly...but am not gaining quickly....lots to think about. Thank you!

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Thanks for engaging in this but I am experiencing SO MUCH PAIN with these thoughts that intrude after I acknowledge the feeling. I tried doing EMDR on myself just now in the car. I get frantic: I can't possibly take one more step without dissolving into a bowl of quivering Jello mush. I think we call it discomfort so we aren't tossed into a Looney bin...to be locked away and medicated beyond pain. food brings instant relief for the 5 min I indulge. There HAS to be a better way.

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I do recognize when i am having the thoughts. I can identify them. What I cannot seem to come to terms with is "sitting with" it. It doesn't make any sense to me. Something hurts, u fix it. But there is no fix for the thought except to eat it...distract from it, walk it, weed it, read a book.....etc. and there it is AGAIN with a self satisfied grin saying: "im so glad you decided to invite me In to sit on your shoulder and keep you uncomfortable. I win, again. Keep it up , pal"
I am unable to find a strategy for "sitting with" anything. No. Therapy is not new for me. Have tried several kinds. Plus meditation, breathing etc.

Thanks for your reply.

Yettid,
I can't say yes physiological changes stopped my cravings. I also can't say 'no, they didn't. I don't believe anyone here can offer assurance that VSG or any other alphabet Soup is going to do the trick for ANYONE here. We can encourage you and say how it helps or didnt for ourselves but we have no clue how it will affect you and the choices you make pre and post surgery. I don't know where you are now on your journey but hope you will understand why I, at least, am unable to offer a definitive answer to your excellent question.
Good luck

The sleeve will NOT make any difference in what you decide to eat. Sorry.

Darn. I tried to reply and it bit the bullet. I think that a given must be lifetime maintenance of the loss. That seems NOT to be the norm. I'm not saying it (surgery) Cannot possibly extend one's years....just that other parameters need also be met. Thanks for the research.

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Sodas and other carbonated drinks will not stretch our sleeves or pouches. However, soda is not good for bariatric surgery patients due to a plethora of valid reasons:
https://provostbariatrics.com/can-you-really-stretch-your-pouch/

I love you! lol

The way I see it, people ask for advice and I assume, they ask w/ the intent of getting and honest (or what is honest for the person answering) answer. We're not here to respond in ways that'll kiss your butt, we respond in ways that we can relate to and that relate to others. Yes, at the end of the day, it is an opinion. Sadly, we've come to a time where many people don't understand the base of an opinion. You find a message in an opinion or you keep it moving. I, personally, would pass up a small sucker that will put crap carbs and sugar into my body, but again, I take my WLS seriously. Either we have discipline or we don't. We need to help those who are actually making an attempt to try and not those who live by "Hey, I'm going through something, one bite will not hurt". Oh, trust me, it will.

Some of us struggle minute by minute with temptation to eat something that could satisfy an old urge but not subvert "the program". So just asking a question about watermelon (pure sugar) when you are so recently out of surgery and trying to avoid sugar kind of makes a reader feel panic....because we had the same process and we followed the doc's orders and we cleared out anything that might tempt us to stray from ketosis....and we thought we conquered it only to find that 4 or 5 years of living with out these temptations does not make it easier to continue down the path of maintenance nor does it guarantee that we won't slip up and be tempted again. It's such a scary path and so easy to slide off. If you can seriously look at that and consider it a possibility and say 'chill' well....WOW that's unreal. I hope you will share this years from now after you have successfully reached your goal and maintained it beyond 3 years and can actually eat anything you want at that stage without regaining...i hope you write a book telling us how it's done!

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Let me be brief and clear. Opinions are like rear ends, everyone has one and I posted mine. I don't have any "insecurities and struggles" that I am projecting on to anyone. I spoke truth about accountability, with "food for thought" which is why, as someone stated earlier, many of us had to resort to WLS in the first place-- not holding our selves accountable for our own undoing. Now, if you are unable to cosign my OPINION, that is fine (your red wagon-- you can push or pull that); however, don't try to psychoanalyze me with empty rhetoric. I stated my OPINION on the matter and stand behind it. #ThatIsAll

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Some of us struggle minute by minute with temptation to eat something that could satisfy an old urge but not subvert "the program". So just asking a question about watermelon (pure sugar) when you are so recently out of surgery and trying to avoid sugar kind of makes a reader feel panic....because we had the same process and we followed the doc's orders and we cleared out anything that might tempt us to stray from ketosis....and we thought we conquered it only to find that 4 or 5 years of living with out these temptations does not make it easier to continue down the path of maintenance nor does it guarantee that we won't slip up and be tempted again. It's such a scary path and so easy to slide off. If you can seriously look at that and consider it a possibility and say 'chill' well....WOW that's unreal. I hope you will share this years from now after you have successfully reached your goal and maintained it beyond 3 years and can actually eat anything you want at that stage without regaining...i hope you write a book telling us how it's done!

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