kmt1973

I'm not making good food choices. I don't eat many carbs, but I do eat them. I think I am going back to the beginning. Get my mindset right. Thank y'all for helping me.

I'm not making good food choices. I don't eat many carbs, but I do eat them. I think I am going back to the beginning. Get my mindset right. Thank y'all for helping me.

I have a friend who is banded, although I have not seen her in 2 years....did not eat 3 meals a day. But ate 5-6 very small meals a day....and she is very, very successful.
I look at it this way...it is total calories consumed versus total calories burned to loose weight. All within a 24 hr period.
There are days I graze all day, like a Saturday or Sunday watching football.....but I don't have any meals. If I'm picking at food all afternoon, then no dinner...the food I grazed, snacked on is my dinner. Plus with the band, after snacking, there is no way I could eat a meal!
The calories I consumed from grazing, would be about the same as a single meal...as long as I'm grazing on good food, fruits, veggies and nuts, and not junk.
So it all evens out.....

You caught yourself before hitting the ground. The biggest thing in my opinion is that you recognize where your problem is and you're owning it. Like B52 said, it doesn't matter how you consume your calories as long as you're making proper choices. You're not failing the band, you just need to reconnect with it. Would it be helpful if you tried to completely reset? Meaning start from the beginning with liquids and then progressing to mushies, soft and solids. There's no doubt you have it in you to turn this around, if there's anything I can do to help send me a message!!! Believe in yourself and remember why you got the band to begin with!!

It's going on three years since I've gotten banded. I started at 214, got down to 172, back up to 186. I am hoplessly failing the band.
My problem that I didn't consider before the band, I'm a GRAZER! I literally do what cows do, I graze. All day, every day. I wake up in the morning thinking about food. I go to bed, just having had a snack first. UGH! The lapband is amazing in that it helps with my portion size, and it keeps me from eating a bunch of carbs, but it doesn't keep me from eating two pounds of bacon throughout a day. I don't know what I'm really asking of ya'll or what I'm doing. I just don't know where to turn.

I've had my band since 3/19/12, and boy have you hit the nail on the head! I really hope folks will let you know. I am wondering too!

I finally feel comfortable in sharing some before and after pictures. Still working at it but I feel good about my progress so far.

I have bad news! If you want a professional opinion and support, you're going to have to pay someone else to help you. I wouldn't waste my time with your old clinic. They will only depress and discourage you.
It really sucks, but what can you do? Find a doc who is supportive and cheap if possible? There's a surgeon button at the top of this page if you want to look for surgeons in your area? I strongly advise you to research your new doc and make sure they're in this for the next decade or more. And, check out that support staff. You already know how wonderful it was with your previous nurse? Find another. Look for some support groups in your area too. They're a wealth of information about office cultures.
tmf

The world of bariatric surgery is full of myths. Every time myths are repeated, they gain strength and credibility (deserved or not), so it’s important to look at them closely before accepting them as true.


TIME TO THROW OUT SOME OLD MYTHS
It’s time to throw out some old myths about the adjustable gastric band, but before we start flinging those myths around, let’s all agree on what a myth is.
The traditional definition is that a myth is an ancient story of unverifiable, supposedly historical events. A myth expresses the world view of a people or explains a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon. For example, the Greek god Zeus had powers over lightning and storms, and could make a storm to show his anger.
If you think myths are dry stuff found only in schoolbooks, think again. They surround just about every aspect of our lives, and travel much faster now, in the age of technology, than they did in the dusty old days of ancient Greece and Rome. They’re a way for us to make sense of a chaotic world, both past, present and future. They affect thoughts, beliefs, emotions and assumptions in our everyday lives, coming alive in our minds as we, and the people around us, seem to act them out.
Some myths are helpful because they give us a shared sense of security and express our fundamental values and beliefs, but some myths are just plain wrong and can be harmful to us and to others. A good example is the myth that having weight loss surgery is taking the easy way out. Every time I hear that one repeated, I want to laugh and scream at the same time. If you’re a post-op, you know why. Weight loss is hard no matter how you do it (surgery, diet pills, prayer, magic cleanses, and so on). On the other hand, WLS is supposed to be easy, compared to the dozens or hundreds of weight loss attempts in our past. Why on earth would I put myself through a major surgery if it wasn’t going to help me lose weight and keep it off?
Now that we’ve shared a little laugh (or scream) over a WLS myth we can all agree upon, let’s test out some band myths whose validity may not be as clear. This kind of examination can be uncomfortable, but believing in a falsehood is almost guaranteed to make your WLS journey bumpier than it needs to be.
Let’s start with the myths that are easiest to digest and end with the ones that can be tougher for a bandster to swallow.
#1 – THE BAND IS THE LEAST INVASIVE WLS PROCEDURE
I believed this one at first, mainly because I knew little about the other WLS procedures back in 2007. It’s still a widely-circulated myth, one that even my surgeon’s well-intentioned dietitian endorses. So, what’s the truth according to Jean? Face it: any surgery done on an anesthetized patient, during which a surgeon cuts into the belly in several places, does some dissection (more cutting) and suturing (stitching) of the internal anatomy, and implants a medical device (the dreaded “foreign object”), is invasive. It is true that band placement generally involves less internal dissection and suturing than other weight loss surgeries, but neither is it on the same level medically as having your teeth cleaned. So while the invasiveness of a surgery is worth considering, you do yourself a disservice if you let that override other considerations. A bariatric surgery might last 45-60 minutes, with recovery lasting a week or so, but its effect on your health and lifestyle last a lifetime. Or I sure hope it does.
Some people associate invasiveness with irreversibility. Although the band is meant to stay put once clamped to your stomach, it can indeed be removed if medically necessary. Gastric bypass (RNY) surgery can also be reversed, while the sleeve (VSG) cannot and only the “switch” (malabsorptive feature) of the duodenal switch (DS) can be reversed. Removal or reversal is not as easy as operating on a “virgin belly” (as my surgeon so colorfully puts it), so it’s important to weigh the benefits against the risks of reversal or revision surgery.
#2 – BAND WEIGHT LOSS TAKES TOO MUCH WORK
Aside from the desire for instant and effortless weight loss (which is a fairy tale if I ever heard one) that so many obese people share (me among them), this is a myth that often turns people away from the band and towards other WLS procedures. While this myth may be true in the first 12-18 months after surgery, eventually everyone ends up in the same boat, rowing hard against the powerful tide of obesity.
Weight loss and weight maintenance is hard no matter how you achieve it. A dietitian who spoke at a band support group meeting I attended a few years ago said that while band patients must change their lifestyle immediately in order to succeed, every WLS patient must do that sooner or later. It’s a pay-me-now or pay-me-later deal. You can slice it, dice it, sauté it and serve it on your grandmother’s best china. However you serve it, weight loss and maintenance is a lifetime project because obesity is a chronic disease with no cure. No matter how successful we are as new post-ops, all of us must face the possibility of regain. That’s why I cringe when someone proudly crows, “XXX pounds gone forever!”
#3 – THE BAND’S SLOWER WEIGHT LOSS PREVENTS SAGGING SKIN
This is a fairy tale. According to several plastic surgeons I’ve heard speak on the subject. The effect of weight loss on skin depends mostly on your genetics and your age (because skin loses elasticity as we age). Other factors can be how obese you were, how long you were obese, how you carried your weight, and how much (and how) you exercise as you lose weight.
I’ve heard women say that they’d rather be obese than have sagging or excess skin. To my mind, that’s a sad statement, because I’d rather have sagging or excess skin (as long as it didn’t interfere with my ambulation or activities) than excess weight. Don’t get me wrong: I loathe the excess flab on my midsection (whose nickname is “The Danish Pastry”) and I’m not thrilled about my batwings, throat wattles, or anything else that’s happened to my skin in the past few years (during which I’ve undergone the double-whammy of weight loss and the fast approach of my 60’s). On the other hand, I think I look pretty good for a woman my age, especially when I conceal my figure flaws in flattering clothing which, I might add, no longer needs to be purchased at Lane Giant.
#4 – TO LOSE WEIGHT, YOU HAVE TO FIND YOUR SWEET SPOT
I used to wonder how the Sweet Spot Myth could survive in the face of so much clinical evidence against it, but last year I heard the “you gotta find your sweet spot” claim uttered by a bariatric dietitian, so apparently this is a myth being validated by medical professionals who ought to know better.
Instead of the sweet spot, Allergan (the first to introduce the band in the USA) uses a zone chart to illustrate band restriction, with not enough restriction in the yellow zone, good restriction in the green zone, and too much restriction in the red zone. In other words, restriction happens in a range of experience, not at a single static point. That experience changes over time as we lose weight, deal with ordinary processes such as hormonal fluctuations, hydration changes, stress, medications, time of day, and so on. It’s also affected by our food choices (solid vs soft/liquid food).
In my banded days, I traveled through and around a sweet spot many times. It might last for 30 minutes, 3 days, 3 weeks, but it never stayed exactly the same, and yet I still lost weight! I don’t actually want to stay exactly the same for the rest of my life (throat wattles notwithstanding). As any Parkinson’s disease patient will tell you (if they’re able to speak), a body that gets stuck in time is a very big problem (and with my luck, I’d get stuck in the worst sinus infection or case of the flu of my life). Some people who are very sensitive to their band and its fills find sudden or unexpected changes in restriction to be very, very frustrating, and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, either.
To read more about the sweet spot, click here to go to an article, The Elusive Sweet Spot.
http://www.lapbandtalk.com/page/index.html/_/support/post-op-support/the-elusive-sweet-spot-r59
#5 – NO SIDE EFFECTS MEAN MY BAND ISN’T WORKING
Equating side effects with a properly working band is very common, and potentially very harmful. The two most significant signs of the band’s proper functioning are (1) early satiety and (2) prolonged satiety. Those signs are rarely expressed in large, bold, uppercase letters, such as

STOP EATING NOW!


Those signs won’t be accompanied by clanging bells or flashing lights, either. In fact, the less noise and distraction (such as “Why don’t I have stuck episodes?”), the more likely you are to be able to recognize early and prolonged satiety.
Before I tell you why the no side effects = broken band worry is a sign of mythical thinking, let’s make sure we agree on the definition of a side effect, and how that relates to complications. A side effect is an unintentional or unwanted effect of a medical treatment, and it’s usually exceeded (or at least balanced) by the benefits (the intentional, wanted effects) of that treatment. For example, antibiotics can cause diarrhea. That’s an unpleasant side effect, but an untreated infection can have far worse consequences for the patient. Side effects can often be managed by tweaking or changing the treatment, and they are rarely worse than the original condition.
A complication, on the other hand, is a more acute, serious consequence of a medical treatment, and usually needs a more aggressive approach, including surgery to fix the problem. Now let’s go back to the antibiotic example. An allergic, anaphylactic reaction to the antibiotic can be fatal without prompt medical treatment. That’s a complication, and it’s far worse than the original condition.
So in the context of all that, it seems strange to me when bandsters long for side effects like regurgitation (PB’s), stuck episodes, and sliming. Instead of looking for more subtle clues from their bodies (like early and prolonged satiety), they go looking for problems, and worse than that, they tend to “test” their band with foolish eating and/or overeating, hoping to provoke a side effect that will signal to them that they really do have a band in there. One of the many problems with that approach is that it can also provoke a complication. And that brings us to the final myth in today’s article:
#6 – THE MORE FILL, THE BETTER
I’ve heard bariatric surgeons comment that some band patients seem
to be addicted to fills. I can identify with that because I had a good relationship with my band surgeon who not only administered my fills but gave me a lot of encouragement as well as answers to my many questions. I left each fill appointment with a renewed sense of commitment and hope. How can you not get hooked on something good like that?
The problem with equating fills with weight loss success is that more fill is not always better. In fact, too much fill (which varies from one patient to the next, and also varies in a single patient as time goes on and the patient’s body keeps changing) can be downright dangerous. An overfilled band, and the side effects it causes (see #5 above), can lead to a complication like a band slip, esophageal dilation, or stomach dilation. While complications can come out of nowhere, most bariatric surgeons agree that too much saline in the band puts too much pressure on the stomach. Eventually something’s got to give. That’s often hastened by the patient’s efforts to eat around the problem, and it is absolutely not a guarantee of weight loss. I gained weight several times because of what’s called Soft Calorie Syndrome. My band was too tight and I was dealing with it by consuming mostly soft and liquid calories that offered little or no satiety.
The human body is an incredible organism, capable of amazing feats of growth and healing that we take mostly for granted, but it’s not endlessly forgiving. Too much fill in your band, too many eating problems, too much inflammation and irritation in the upper GI tract, can compromise your body’s ability to recover from a complication like a band slip. Sometimes a complication can be treated conservatively, with an unfill and rest period, but sometimes it requires a surgical fix, including removal of the band. And after all you’ve gone through to get that band wrapped around your stomach, shouldn’t you be doing your utmost to treat it (and your body) with respect?
Finally, the fill myth can cause us to overlook a very important guest at your WLS party….you. If you are going to succeed with your band, lose weight and keep it off and keep that band safe and sound inside you, sooner or later you will have to take personal responsibility for your success. Expecting your band alone to carry you to your goal weight is like expecting your car to safely deliver your child to school without anybody in the driver’s seat. And I sure hope that you are a very important person in your life!

Thank u guys. Im am a little better now that ive talked to my dr & nutritionist. I think im eating an ok portion since the fill i just have to take everyones advice and slow down i am on solids so the puree is not a problem anymore. I know this it a tool not a quick fix i just need to get it together but i am going to buy some small utensils. The band doesnt change my mindset & its a slow process but im learning.

Excellent post. Wonderful read and GREAT inspiration to snap myself back into action! My doctor went REALLY slow with fills, so, two years later I am just now at restriction within the past month. It's reinvigorated me and I am finally seeing results. Because I started seeing results again, I've started eating right and really paying attention - which is what I should have been doing ALL along.
Anyway, thanks again for the kick!
S

There is always the exception, and I guess I'm it....
To me, it is a lifestyle.....NOT a diet.
I have plenty of friends who are skinny, and probably never been overweight in their life.
I follow their lead....you will never see them eating like a pig...always small portions. At parties, you hardly see them eating at all but engaged in conversation.....
They do it out of good lifestyle, I do it because the band will not let me be a pig..CANNOT overat....
2nd, what food they do eat is HEALTHY....you will never see them counting calories. They simply know what is good and what is not good for their bodies.....it's not rocket science and I don't need MFP to tell me.
That is what I do...since myl food portions are so small, thanks to the band, I have educated myself to be a Health Nut.....I only eat the best foods, stay away from junk, choose organis when possible..
I have not eaten red meat in 18 months.....no flour products, no sugar, no salt, soda, milk, etc. to some that may be a diet, to me that's a healthy lifestyle.
3rd, my skinny friends are all active, involved in something like running clubs, cross country biking, etc.
I too have elected to to be the same way.....even after having one heart attack with cardiac surgery, I am more active now than I was 30 years younger....which included 2 tours of Vietnam....
So, I do not think about calories, just eating healthy...
Being banded, my portions are totally in control, cannot overeat even if I wanted to..and I have tried and learned my lessons well....
Most days, I do not even think about being banded at all....it is as though I had surgery once, I'm healed and cured, and life goes on.....
However it goes on with a NEW NORMAL....
I have not gained, nor lost any significant weight in over a year.
I see my bariatric surgeon every 3 months....he cannot be more pleasd because I make him look good....has had me at a few of his seminars.....
He once said he wished all his patients had my attitude towards living a new life......
These forums are a place where no one is right, and no one is wrong....but it is a place where people who have been banded share their personal stories.
I am shocked at what some people tell other people what they should or should not do....
I have been in the profession for over 30 years and , well, I'll leave it at that.....
I have reached my goal, completed the journey....this is now my NEW NORMAL LIFE! Set free from dieting, calorie counting, etc.....and it is all easy and normal behavior for me.

It sounds like you are smarter, more mature, and have a great handle on your life, plus a great man in it. No one likes to think bad about their moms. Moms are supposed to want the best for their kids. If she is acting like a jealous woman than you need to stay your distance. Just like you would any other woman that acts like that. It definitly sounds like she is going to ruin your good life. Don't let her make you second guess yourself.

I get rid of head hunger when I eat 6-7 small meals a day. I actually set my alarm for every 2 hours to eat something small with Protein and it keeps me full all day and not starving to wear I binge eat! It's worked out great so far!!!!

My doc said, "don't even look for weightloss till you are completely healed. In fact, you might gain." Then after you heal, you will be in bandster hell till you get the right amount of fluids. I got my band in March and am just now, this last month at proper restriction. Be patient, thats what my doc kept telling me, and he was right. It will come. And don't beat yourself up, that just leads to discouragement and we all know what happens when bbw get discouraged. We eat!

Don't give up, keep going for those fills. If we were good at dieting we wouldn't have had surgery. I was so frustrated, and starting to regret that I didn't go w the sleeve. But, I just went for my fifth fill, last week. And I am amazed at the difference just .75 has made. With 4, I had NO RESTRICTION, and was hungry all the time. Now at 4.75, I eat 1/2 cup and I'm full, and not hungry. It will come, and its exciting! Well worth the wait!

Jean Mcmillan's fantastic book,"Bandwagon", lists 15 band eating skills. After she lists them, Jean goes into details for each one .
It is a great book, my go-to book for 2 AM band terror questions.... hehehe!

eat lean Protein first
try not to eat over a cup of food at a time
drink alot of Water (crystal light for me)
exercise
a positive attitude is a must
(dont weigh every day)
and realize that you will eat to live and not live to eat

Logging my food into "My Fitness Pal"
Have the right foods available!
Don't drink with meals
Walk
Drink Water
Don't give in what you head tells you you want. Listen to when you are physically hungry
Protein!!
Good luck to you, you will do great. I am still learning

Before I was 357.

No I am 236.

i couldnt believe it seeing them together like this i was sooo excited i still have 50-75 more to lose tho.

This is after 67 pounds. I have about 20 pounds to go. The ones in red are before and the ones in black are after. I still can't tell a difference. LOL