I'm not one to judge others without knowing them/all the facts, but this one burned me!!! I watched the announcements of the Octuplets being born, and thought; well it must have happened due to follicle stimulation because no Dr. would do invitro with 8 or more embryos. Yesterday I watched as the experts gave their opinions with the same conclusion I came to. There was no way any of them would have done invitro with that many eggs and they would turn someone away who wanted that, so they also felt it must have been egg stimulation that caused this.

Now this morning I learn that the mother, who is currently living at home with her mother, already has six children (we know nothing about the father)!!!! And here's the kicker...it WAS invitro!!!! Holy Cow!!! I get that there are crazy people out there, so I'm writing the mom off as nuts, but what the heck happened to regulating and having rules about ethics for this for the Drs.??!! What's next...cloning? Know that I have family members and friends that have been helped by fertility specialists, so I know the benefit in using one, but this guy crossed the line. Just MO.

Our goal as parents should be to raise healthy, happy, productive members of society.

When children depend on their parents for too long, they do not learn how to adequately take care of themselves. They can't make good adult decisions on their own. They do not make good spouses. And they often behave like spoiled children even though they are adults. They are often the people you meet who believe that the world owe's them something.

Our goal as parents should be to raise healthy, happy, productive members of society.

When children depend on their parents for too long, they do not learn how to adequately take care of themselves. They can't make good adult decisions on their own. They do not make good spouses. And they often behave like spoiled children even though they are adults. They are often the people you meet who believe that the world owe's them something.

Hello! BJean wins the prize! :scared2:

Hot damn! Nobody told me there were prizes!! Whoo-hoo! :scared2:

Well, I don't have any kids other than a 17 year old stepson. He graduates next year. If he still expected to live with us beyond that, he would have to be in college and working and paying his own insurance, car payment, etc. If he wasn't in school, we would expect him to be out on his own. There is no other excuse for a grown child to still be living at home other than pursing their education. It is just pure laziness the way kids do these day, and especially the way parents let them do.

I agee. And all my adult children work full time, pay a fair room and board, contribute to the household chores and help each other out. They pay for their own cars and ins. and phone bills, etc., Or they are in college. We tell them that they are welcome to live here as long as they like if we see that they are bettering themselves educationally or repaying their student loans and saving money for their future or contributing to the family and working.

Yeah I keep telling my 8 year old it is about time for her to go out and get a job to support herself. =)

For real though, I definitely agree on staying home with your children when they are younger. Unfortunately since the pill failed and I ended up with some wonderful children(that part is fortunate) at a much younger age than I intended both my husband and I worked. Luckily most of my jobs until my current position were in the child care field and I could have my children with me.

I heard new news this morning. Octomom was at Disneyland Friday, Knott's Berry Farm Saturday signing autographs. Spent $1K at MAC. Must be nice. I'm sure the volunteer Angels of Mercy are happy to be getting money from outside sources leaving Octopussy's student loans to by gallons of lipstick for her mug!!

Yeah I keep telling my 8 year old it is about time for her to go out and get a job to support herself. =)

Oh BG you have it backwards that is where your problem is....you must not have read the "The NEW Child Support version 2.0" memo correctly.

You have 1 (ONE) 8 year old child.

In order for the "New Child Support version 2.0" to work correctly, and allow the children to support you. You need 8 (EIGHT) one year old children......

So sorry you misunderstood this.

Guess you will be like most of the rest of us, and have to be responsible parent....that sucks.....but you WILL be in good company!!!

Oh BG you have it backwards that is where your problem is....you must not have read the "The NEW Child Support version 2.0" memo correctly.

You have 1 (ONE) 8 year old child.

In order for the "New Child Support version 2.0" to work correctly, and allow the children to support you. You need 8 (EIGHT) one year old children......

So sorry you misunderstood this.

Guess you will be like most of the rest of us, and have to be responsible parent....that sucks.....but you WILL be in good company!!!

LOL Kat! You are SO funny!

Apparently in this country you have to be a blithering idiot, a complete narcissist, or wholly irresponsible and then people come to your rescue via bailouts and other help, thereby assuring that people don't learn a damn thing,

Yup. Guess it just don't pay to be a smarty pants. Better to be a dumbass and let everbody else do the work. The beeotch is laughing all the way to the bank.

I cringe everytime I see that pasted-on innocent, coy, I-don't-understand look on her puss when Phil or someone is talking to her. She's crazy like a fox, that girl. But crazy for sure.

Oh BG you have it backwards that is where your problem is....you must not have read the "The NEW Child Support version 2.0" memo correctly.

You have 1 (ONE) 8 year old child.

In order for the "New Child Support version 2.0" to work correctly, and allow the children to support you. You need 8 (EIGHT) one year old children......

So sorry you misunderstood this.

Guess you will be like most of the rest of us, and have to be responsible parent....that sucks.....but you WILL be in good company!!!

Damn. What if I throw an almost 6 year old in there? Can I get a little free money? Oh wait, I forgot. When I lost my job 3 years ago, DH made $500 too much for us to qualify for WIC. So even though we almost lost our home and our car we could not even get any food assistance. The WIC went to the lady with 5 kids who got to buy the good peanut butter at 11pm at night, screaming kids hanging out of the cart that also contained beer and cigarettes she was paying cash for. And her nails all Octomom styled. Nah, I am not still bitter about it. =)

For real though, I don't know how people manage with more than a couple kids. Both of my kids had a friend over yesterday and both of the extra kids ended up having dinner with us. Not that I mind, but really I don't think I could handle that chaos every night. Luckily it was over 50 degrees so we could eat outside. And not trash my house.

Yup. Guess it just don't pay to be a smarty pants. Better to be a dumbass and let everbody else do the work. The beeotch is laughing all the way to the bank.

I cringe everytime I see that pasted-on innocent, coy, I-don't-understand look on her puss when Phil or someone is talking to her. She's crazy like a fox, that girl. But crazy for sure.

I honestly do not think she is crazy. I think this whole entire thing was premeditated to get her out of the poorhouse and set her up for life. Now that it is not working out how she planned because only 1 in 57,452* feels sympathy toward her, she is playing stupid.

*I base my statistic solely on the number of Lapband Talk members as of 5:33am.

I honestly do not think she is crazy. I think this whole entire thing was premeditated to get her out of the poorhouse and set her up for life. Now that it is not working out how she planned because only 1 in 57,452* feels sympathy toward her, she is playing stupid.

*I base my statistic solely on the number of Lapband Talk members as of 5:33am.

So who's the "one"? Oh......

So who's the "one"? Oh......

Everyone forgets that she didn't plan to have 8 babies, she planned to have 1 more (7, not 14). And even though I don't feel that planning to have 7 children is a big deal, I understand why most do, since they seem to find it difficult to have just 2 or 3 kids. I believe the anger comes in when she didn't have a means of support except the help of her mom and the food stamps. BUT, she was planning to finish school and after another year of her mom's help, she would have been fine with 7(so she thought) kids to support. I saw her on Dr. Phil yesterday, and she was sincerely sorry for everyones anger at her. She doesn't want anyone to be mad at her. If she could do it without the support of Angels, she would. There were people in the audience who wished her well. Honestly, sometimes I feel you people just like to harp on about her for the sake of harping. Someone here said they would have taken foodstamps and WIC if they were eligible for it, so it's not they you wouldn't accept help from the gov., but that you couldn't get the help that you are upset about. I believe she will be a loving mom to her kids and be fine.

Actually the point I was making was that people like her who make poor choices (like purposely having more childen than she can afford) get awarded with government assistance while others who need it just can't quite get it. It's bullshit. It's bullshit how many people I see abuse the system every single day. I couldn't care less if she decided to have 300 children if she could afford them. But this dumb bitch would continue spawning if she could do it on her own because that is another effing tax deduction. There are so many out there like her. Why get a job when you can have a little sex and pop out a brand new welfare baby 9 months later. Don't worry the government will take care of it. You can have all the money you want. Go get your nails done. Go buy your designer clothes. You get your MAC makeup. So yeah, I am bitter and I am pissed. People very low (but not low enough) on the rate of pay totem pole get screwed. Hell at that time I did not even want any extras. I wanted to be able to feed my family and put a roof over their heads.

And glad you believe she will be a loving Mom to her 14 kids. It already shows how much she cared about the 6 she had when she went to even add one more that she could not afford.

And besides don't you have 3452345 of your own children that you claim to be homeschoolingthat should be getting your attention instead of you posting long ass tirades on here all damn day long.

Sorry mods I can't effing deal with her today. I've said my piece and utilizing the block button now.