I'm not one to judge others without knowing them/all the facts, but this one burned me!!! I watched the announcements of the Octuplets being born, and thought; well it must have happened due to follicle stimulation because no Dr. would do invitro with 8 or more embryos. Yesterday I watched as the experts gave their opinions with the same conclusion I came to. There was no way any of them would have done invitro with that many eggs and they would turn someone away who wanted that, so they also felt it must have been egg stimulation that caused this.

Now this morning I learn that the mother, who is currently living at home with her mother, already has six children (we know nothing about the father)!!!! And here's the kicker...it WAS invitro!!!! Holy Cow!!! I get that there are crazy people out there, so I'm writing the mom off as nuts, but what the heck happened to regulating and having rules about ethics for this for the Drs.??!! What's next...cloning? Know that I have family members and friends that have been helped by fertility specialists, so I know the benefit in using one, but this guy crossed the line. Just MO.

A talking grouper!!! I got the visual and LMAO!!!!

Yah, ditto for me, eh. LMFAO!!!

I just saw the video of Octolittermom with her 2 or 3 year old biting and hitting her. What is she going to do when she is feeding a couple of the new babies in her lap and this one and maybe another one starts beating on the other six fragile preemie newborns? It will happen. One of my cousins was about three of four when her baby sister was born. She was all lovey-dovey and asked to kiss her newborn baby sister. When her mom let her see the baby, she plowed her fist at her. Children who aren't disciplined, constantly test their boundaries and when they do NOT reach them, keep going. God help those children if they are left in her care.

I just saw the video of Octolittermom with her 2 or 3 year old biting and hitting her. What is she going to do when she is feeding a couple of the new babies in her lap and this one and maybe another one starts beating on the other six fragile preemie newborns? It will happen. One of my cousins was about three of four when her baby sister was born. She was all lovey-dovey and asked to kiss her newborn baby sister. When her mom let her see the baby, she plowed her fist at her. Children who aren't disciplined, constantly test their boundaries and when they do NOT reach them, keep going. God help those children if they are left in her care.

Yah, I was wondering that. Sibling rivalry can be a murderous thing....

Anyone looking for a job?

Octo Mom's New Publicist Quits: "This Woman Is Nuts"

Octo Mom Nadya Suleman is without a publicist -- again.

Victor Munoz tells Usmagazine.com that he quit as Suleman's rep Friday night.

"It just got to be too much," he says. "It's pretty much a free for all over there right now. They are freaking out right now.

"Not to sound arrogant, but those people depended on me for everything," he continues. "You have no idea what I’ve had to do for these people.

"Nadya got real greedy. This woman is nuts," he adds.

"This I can say: what ultimately destroyed the business arrangement was personal reasons."

Munoz -- who plans to meet with his lawyers Monday to go over the terms of his contract and confidentiality clause -- did not go into further detail.

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Suleman's first publicist, Joann Killeen, stepped down after her firm received over 100 graphic e-mail and voicemail threats.

"They'd put me in the wood chipper and throw me in the bottom of the ocean and hope I die," Killeen has said. "We've gotten her through the worst part of it and now they are putting their venom and anger toward us."

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/octo-mom-second-publicist-quits-200973

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..."Nadya got real greedy. This woman is nuts," he adds.

Has anyone who has actually met this woman NOT said that she is nuts? ...Her Mom, Her Dad, Her publicists, Dr. Phil, Her interviewers/press...

Yea, I think everyone except pattygreen!

Yea, I think everyone except pattygreen!

No comment. :confused:

The sad part is that the only person whose first concern isn't the children seems to be Nayda. She has plenty of leaches looking for their 15 mins of fame surrounding her, but in the end, from what I've read, everyone is worried about the children's well being.

I think she's waiting for the huge payoff that's just around the corner, and has squandered all the opportunities that have been presented to her. In the end, she'll be lucky not to lose the older children, but I can't imagine there's a chance in the world that any of the preemies will be sent home with her.

There are some serious eyes watching her now (children's services for one), and from all reports I've seen, nobody that has had personal contact with her thinks she's fit either mentally and/or financially to take care of 14 children, especially children with special needs.

Well sometimes people can be wrong about a person when they rely on a few press releases to form an opinion. But when Octomom's own parents have come out and exposed her, and Dr. Phil who is an extremely down to earth equal opportunity psychologist throws her under the bus, and when she can't keep a publicist in this day of greed dominating everything, one really can't deny the sad, sick condition of Octomom and the even sadder situation that those children are in. I mean if someone is still thinking that what Octomom did is okay, then it makes you wonder about their motivation as well, eh?

She said today that she has hired 12 nannies. I would like to know how she is paying for them.

She said today that she has hired 12 nannies. I would like to know how she is paying for them.

i read she finally accepted the angel nurses w/dr phill's urging.

personally, i don't think she had a chance of those babies being released to her care unless she complied.

I still don't think they need to be released to her...

That would be so hard----I cannot imagine the interviews to hire one---let alone 12!!!

Wonder how the dynamics worked out to the # 12. I mean if they were working 8 hour shifts.....that doesn't appear to be enough to my way of thinking. But I would have to sit down and take more time figuring it out, than I care to do at this point tonight!!

Hope they are good people, and good to the kids. Scary thing to trust your kids care like that, at least for most people.

I just read that her Dad bought the house she is moving into.

Wonder how the dynamics worked out to the # 12. I mean if they were working 8 hour shifts.....that doesn't appear to be enough to my way of thinking. But I would have to sit down and take more time figuring it out, than I care to do at this point tonight!!

12 was the number the Angel organizer came up with and she's a nurse. I remember her saying that number before Nadya turned her down. So glad someone's shaking that girl into accepting this. I hope the Angels get enough donations to continue this (they said they wouldn't last very long on their current funding), but people will probably give lots of money to them since none goes to Nadya.