I'm not one to judge others without knowing them/all the facts, but this one burned me!!! I watched the announcements of the Octuplets being born, and thought; well it must have happened due to follicle stimulation because no Dr. would do invitro with 8 or more embryos. Yesterday I watched as the experts gave their opinions with the same conclusion I came to. There was no way any of them would have done invitro with that many eggs and they would turn someone away who wanted that, so they also felt it must have been egg stimulation that caused this.

Now this morning I learn that the mother, who is currently living at home with her mother, already has six children (we know nothing about the father)!!!! And here's the kicker...it WAS invitro!!!! Holy Cow!!! I get that there are crazy people out there, so I'm writing the mom off as nuts, but what the heck happened to regulating and having rules about ethics for this for the Drs.??!! What's next...cloning? Know that I have family members and friends that have been helped by fertility specialists, so I know the benefit in using one, but this guy crossed the line. Just MO.

It may as well be a million a month. She doesn't make $29,760 a YEAR, much less a month. :thumbup:

She does now.

I watched the Dr. Phil special last night on octo-mom. Octo-mom, Gloria, Dr. Phil, and the Angel nurses all met at Dr. Phil's house to have a big Pow WoW!

Based on that meeting octo-mom agreed to accept the generous offer to have nursing care for all 14 of octo-mom's children. And Octo-mom was able to purchase a home, which appears is being funded from donations. No mention of octo-mom's dad being the person who bought the house. Perhaps that was a rumor.

Trust accounts are available at Dr. Phil's web site and the Angel nurses' web site. Dr. Phil has a follow up special today, in which he states he has a big surprise for octo-mom, which no doubt is some type of personal financial contribution or some type of foundation contribution.

The Angel nurses stated that 3 of the 8 children appear to be autistic. And one of the new-borns appears to have downs syndrome.

All I can say at this point, is thank goodness the Angel Nurses are able to donate these wonderful services to the babies. Four of the babies are ready to go home today, but the hospital will only release them two at a time. It looks as though two babies will come home in two days. They are just waiting for the cribs and escrow on the house to close.

The escrow on the house was suppose to close yesterday.

The Angel nurses stated that 3 of the 8 children appear to be autistic. And one of the new-borns appears to have downs syndrome..

that is just breaks my heart.

her little science project gone bad - i didn't watch, how did she react to that assessment?

LOS ANGELES — The Southern California mother of octuplets said in a video posted online Wednesday that she — not her parents — is paying for the four-bedroom, three-bath home where she plans to raise her brood.

In the video posted on RadarOnline.com, Nadya Suleman disputed earlier remarks by the house's listing agent, who said her father was buying the home.

PHOTOS: Click here to see pictures of the octuplets.

Suleman said she made the initial payment on the house, which she was leasing with an option to buy. Her parents, she said, "had nothing to do with it."

Click here to view the video.

Prudential Realty agent Mike Patel did not immediately return a phone message early Wednesday seeking comment.

Suleman made her remarks during a recorded walkthrough of the 2,583-square-foot house in La Habra, about 20 miles east of Los Angeles, where she intends live with the octuplets and her six other children.

She said the money for the home was coming from "opportunities" she has been offered, but did not elaborate on what they were. She also said she had been hoping to receive some donations to support the children's care, but had not gotten any.

Suleman gave birth to the octuplets on Jan. 26. They were born nine weeks premature but are the world's longest-surviving set of octuplets.

Suleman said in the video that all but two were healthy enough to leave the hospital and that they would be released two at a time after hospital officials inspected the new home.

FOXNews.com - Octomom Says She's the One Paying for New Home - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

So I still wonder if she will help keep her mother from losing her house after she drove the poor woman into the ground. :mad2:

You're supposed to start paying back student loans 6 months after you graduate or 6 months after you stop going to school. But you can get deferments if you are having a hard time paying them. I would guess that is what she is getting.

So I still wonder if she will help keep her mother from losing her house after she drove the poor woman into the ground. :mad2:

mom needs a trust fund set up for her to enjoy her retirement yrs.

You're supposed to start paying back student loans 6 months after you graduate or 6 months after you stop going to school. But you can get deferments if you are having a hard time paying them. I would guess that is what she is getting.

But if one never was going to school when they secured the loans, that's FRAUD. I got student loans years ago and had to have my school submit them, along with info ON the school! So what the hell did she put down if she's not going to school and getting this money??

I agree that she says she "doesn't know" a lot, but she sure knows how to defraud the system. :mad2:

I don't know how student loans work in her state, but here you have to be in school. My loans actually go directly to the school, not to me. The school takes out their part and then gives me a refund check for the difference. If you drop out half way through the semester, you have to pay some of the money back to the school and you can't get any more loans unless you had a really good reason for dropping out. But that is for government loans, I'm not sure what type she has. But from what I hear she hasn't been in school for a while, so I agree that they need to investigate.

Based on that meeting octo-mom agreed to accept the generous offer to have nursing care for all 14 of octo-mom's children.

I applaud that decision - thinking of the kids first. That needs to happen more often.

Trust accounts are available at Dr. Phil's web site and the Angel nurses' web site.

I hope someone is going to follow up on the trust accounts and make sure that the money is actually going to the children and not into Octomom's pocket or into an administrator's pocket.

The Angel nurses stated that 3 of the 8 children appear to be autistic. And one of the new-borns appears to have downs syndrome.

Oh dear - this just keeps getting better. Those poor babies are going to need special care for quite a while. I wonder if Nadya is TRULY prepared for this? From what I've seen, she isn't ready to deal with her first set of children and their issues, let alone potential issues with the new babies.

All I can say at this point, is thank goodness the Angel Nurses are able to donate these wonderful services to the babies. Four of the babies are ready to go home today, but the hospital will only release them two at a time. It looks as though two babies will come home in two days. They are just waiting for the cribs and escrow on the house to close.

I imagine Nadya will be under serious scrutiny for quite a while. I just hope that now that the Angel network has given the possibility of the babies getting the care they need that Nadya is not out on the town partying or anything else. Yes, she will need a break periodically, but she should be devoting her strength to getting well, taking care of the babies (as much as she can) and getting out of school and getting a job so she can get OFF THE PUBLIC DOLE!

If she's doing all that well with donations, how about paying BACK some of the assistance she's been given? How about PAYING for some of the Angel nurses' care? How about getting herself ready for the JOB MARKET so she can stop getting handouts?

How about START paying back the outrageous medical bills that I am CERTAIN the State of California is paying out. :mad2:

that is just breaks my heart.

her little science project gone bad - i didn't watch, how did she react to that assessment?

Lulu, She was non-reactionary in my opinion. Lights on but no one home. It was just odd!

I would imagine the care the children will be getting will be from no less than LPN's not CNA's. More like specialized RN's. And even here in Podunk where I live, a CNA makes more than $10 an hour. These are special needs children for the most part, including the previous 6-------whether those needs means physical or emotional. They will need special care, in order for those providing her with the help to cover themselves legally in helping to care for these children.

IF she had properly cared for the first 6, then she might be able to handle them, but I seriously doubt that. What is it you are proposing Patty, that the nurses and the infants exist in another area, and she only care for the older kids? What about her schooling? Why should the older 6 get the shaft? Haven't they already?

She has shown that she could not combine caring for the children and going to school, and raising them ON HER OWN. The kids behaviour suffered, and her parents were burdened. Financially as well as physically tiring them.

So if you basically double the figure you come up with for additional care for the older kids too---it is pushing $60K. I imagine there is additional help for the household, and that would include the other things the Angels are providing.

But I would be seriously careful about the gloating, more often than not, those things jump up and bite ya in the ass in the end. This story is far from over----and a leopard does not just up and change it's spots....she was selfish when this started, and she has not changed yet.

I have said all along, that selling out was the only thing that was gonna keep her off the welfare rolls--and I am fully believing she is still on them. Is she paying for her babies hospital bill? If not, then she is still a burden on society. While she gets her nails done up all purdy!!! Puhleeze, she is as much a leech as she ever was. Of course, as usual, this is simply my opinion....and we know we do not agree on the subject.

If Dr. Phil -- or someone equally in the light, and capable, and trustworthy, would make sure those kids were well cared for, and safe--I could go the rest of my life without seeing or hearing about her and not feel as tho anything had been lost.

Alright, part 2 of Dr. Phil and the octo-mom story aired today.

The good news is that all 8-babies had chromosome (sp)tests conducted and all are healthy. One baby has a cleft lip. Not sure why the Angel Nurses mentioned the autistic scale for three of the babies. Does not sound like the one baby has down syndrome, so this GREAT news.

Donations of cribs, bunk beds, dressing tables, rocking chairs, and dressers were announced on the show. A donation of labor and designing was pledged to help put the nursery together, so that it would be a safe environment for the babies.

A general contractor is donating their time to modify the home, so that it will be safe for all the children. Modifications will include getting rid of single pain windows and replace with double pain windows. Reconstruct the stair case and railings, so that they are safe for all the children.

A donation of new flooring was pledged.

There is a weekend donation drive down in Southern Cali to collect diapers formula and other baby items. Dr. Phil did not state what donation he is making if any.

The show really focused on the needs of the babies and the other children. And there was a segment on why Foster Care is not the answer for these babies.

What was very interesting was how the Angel Nurses will mimic octo-mom's nurturing mannerisms. It was just fascinating.

Oh yes, they mentioned that all 8 babies combined would have 64 feedings a day. Imagine trying to do that by yourself.

The 12 nurses that will be providing the care are specially trained in neonatal preemies.